EPT[R&S] EG's Master's Cup Series Season V League - Page 34
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Pelopidas
Canada225 Posts
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Durn
Canada360 Posts
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typingit
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On May 09 2011 16:42 Durn wrote: Are there vods...? http://www.justin.tv/onemoregametv/b/285449363 | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
- Bo3 v/s Bo1: Proleagues usually function on a Bo1 format because the strenght of the team as a whole -in this format- is more important than the comparison of the individual strenght of the players of the rosters. Supposedly weaker teams can beat team with S-code players thanks to a deeper line-up (impossible here because all teams are limited to 5 players), and more importantly, thanks to intelligent management of their resources. Sending players with a well-thought build to snipe a code-S pro-gamer is an important part of the Proleague format. - 2v2: It sucks. At the same time, it is extremely repetitive (Zerg/terran is by far the best team; you never expand and rely only on one base -per gamer- strategies) and very volatile (cheese everywhere). It seems to be a way to force an ace match. | ||
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Savern101
United Kingdom859 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On May 09 2011 17:49 legaton wrote: I saw the games, and i think the format is bad: - Bo3 v/s Bo1: Proleagues usually function on a Bo1 format because the strenght of the team as a whole -in this format- is more important than the comparison of the individual strenght of the players of the rosters. Supposedly weaker teams can beat team with S-code players thanks to a deeper line-up (impossible here because all teams are limited to 5 players), and more importantly, thanks to intelligent management of their resources. Sending players with a well-thought build to snipe a code-S pro-gamer is an important part of the Proleague format. - 2v2: It sucks. At the same time, it is extremely repetitive (Zerg/terran is by far the best team; you never expand and rely only on one base -per gamer- strategies) and very volatile (cheese everywhere). It seems to be a way to force an ace match. I disagree on both points. Your first point is just weird. You can send a player out to snipe someone in a bo3 as well, only it's not as easy to knock a superior player out with pure luck or cheese in a single game. I don't get why team leagues should be viewed differently than 1v1's, bo1's suck in both cases. 2v2 doesn't suck. It's not much more repetative than 1v1 really and just because there is a lot of one base play or "cheese" doesn't mean there can't be fun games. I'd probably have the game as the second or third though but that is a minor point. Also I don't see how the 2v2 is there to "force an ace match." Are you saying the team being under have a given advantage in 2v2's for some reason? | ||
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Cuddle
Sweden1345 Posts
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PandaMow
England3 Posts
EG vs Dignitas going be siiiiiick too! lol | ||
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ArnaudF
France993 Posts
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eAzydaman
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On May 09 2011 17:49 legaton wrote: I saw the games, and i think the format is bad: - Bo3 v/s Bo1: Proleagues usually function on a Bo1 format because the strenght of the team as a whole -in this format- is more important than the comparison of the individual strenght of the players of the rosters. Supposedly weaker teams can beat team with S-code players thanks to a deeper line-up (impossible here because all teams are limited to 5 players), and more importantly, thanks to intelligent management of their resources. Sending players with a well-thought build to snipe a code-S pro-gamer is an important part of the Proleague format. - 2v2: It sucks. At the same time, it is extremely repetitive (Zerg/terran is by far the best team; you never expand and rely only on one base -per gamer- strategies) and very volatile (cheese everywhere). It seems to be a way to force an ace match. Explain to me why Zerg/Terran is the best 2v2 matchup? I argue it's by far the worst combination. The two most underpowered races. Protoss/Zerg or Protoss/Terran is the best combo. Zerg/Zerg the worst if their early pool doesn't work. And as cheeses go, all is stoppable. | ||
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Arc1
Poland849 Posts
On May 09 2011 20:40 eAzydaman wrote: The two most underpowered races. This won't end well for this thread. | ||
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Artrey
Germany270 Posts
I think it's sad though that the 2v2 is just a Bo1 and no Bo3... =/ Bo1s are just so much more volatile and the 2v2 part is already so slim relatively to the 1v1 content. The worst thing about the state of 2v2 right now is how strong it is dominated by abusive builds and all-ins. Mostly because the rush distances are too small or the maps make it to easy to isolate one player. ZZ actually works better than most Protoss matchups... | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On May 09 2011 20:51 Artrey wrote: Because Hellion+Ling aggression is nearly unbeatable in 2v2. On some maps it's better than on others, but it really is too strong overall. I think it's sad though that the 2v2 is just a Bo1 and no Bo3... =/ Bo1s are just so much more volatile and the 2v2 part is already so slim relatively to the 1v1 content. The worst thing about the state of 2v2 right now is how strong it is dominated by abusive builds and all-ins. Mostly because the rush distances are too small or the maps make it to easy to isolate one player. ZZ actually works better than most Protoss matchups... I've been saying forever that we need better 2v2 maps. Unfortunatly I'm afraid it will take quite a while until we see those implemented/created. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On May 09 2011 08:15 Bagi wrote: Idras analysis is incredible, especially when zerg is involved. Wheat seemed totally humbled by his knowledge, but they still made a great team together. Between Inside The Game and casting with the likes of Idra, inC, and Painuser... I feel more BLESSED than anything. Because not only do I have access to these great minds... it means YOU guys have access to them as well. I swear I could just ask IdrA questions all day about stuff I want to learn more about and it just works out as a good cast Thanks for tuning in yesterday, tonight is another match-up with IdrA casting! | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:34 djWHEAT wrote: Between Inside The Game and casting with the likes of Idra, inC, and Painuser... I feel more BLESSED than anything. Because not only do I have access to these great minds... it means YOU guys have access to them as well. I swear I could just ask IdrA questions all day about stuff I want to learn more about and it just works out as a good cast Thanks for tuning in yesterday, tonight is another match-up with IdrA casting! Keep bringing them content DJWheat! I just wish you had your EG guy talk to other EG guy to avoid scheduling conflict! You have a global audience, there's no reason why everyone is fighting over the same primetime slot. | ||
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InteGrated
United States259 Posts
you're one of the leaders of the nasl, show some class.your comments always just show how arrogant and self righteous you are | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
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JimmyHollow
United Kingdom249 Posts
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Tazato
United States12 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:34 djWHEAT wrote: Between Inside The Game and casting with the likes of Idra, inC, and Painuser... I feel more BLESSED than anything. Because not only do I have access to these great minds... it means YOU guys have access to them as well. I swear I could just ask IdrA questions all day about stuff I want to learn more about and it just works out as a good cast Thanks for tuning in yesterday, tonight is another match-up with IdrA casting! djWHEAT, bringing the noise, like always. Can't wait for more 2v2, it's so different from the 1v1's. A nice change of pace considering all the content that is available for Starcraft II these days. | ||
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Widz
Sweden75 Posts
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