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MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 03 2011 23:58 GMT
#5661
No wonder why Korean protoss just go 6-8 gate timings lol.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 03 2011 23:58 GMT
#5662
On July 04 2011 08:47 Megatronn wrote:
Why doesn't every zerg do this build?

Fairly Mechanically demanding and not as straightfoward as Roach a-move.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 03 2011 23:58 GMT
#5663
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's very powerful

morrow's zvp is soooo good :O


I've seen Naniwa use it very effectively, except he starts with sentries and transitions into HTs with a secured third.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
July 03 2011 23:58 GMT
#5664
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's a very powerful unit comp

morrow's zvp is soooo good :O


what's the role of immortals against ling/bane/infestor?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 03 2011 23:58 GMT
#5665
Idra shutting down DjWheat lol
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 00:00:45
July 03 2011 23:59 GMT
#5666
Rough matchup for Drewbie...

Mana is great at PvT and Drewbie despises TvP...

I feel like Mana is heavily favored this match, unfortunately.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 00:00:06
July 03 2011 23:59 GMT
#5667
On July 04 2011 08:57 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's very powerful


Against ling, baneling?

Particularly once he gets up to Infestors and BroodLords, I don't see how that would work...

blink stalkers are pretty good vs ling, bling. ht's are pretty good against infestors, but yeah you need to have an extra answer for the BL's

you gotta remember that banelings aren't that fast, especially in overlords. it's a much more difficult composition than colossus/stalker for sure
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 03 2011 23:59 GMT
#5668
On July 04 2011 08:56 Yaotzin wrote:
Morrow pretty much giving Cruncher a lesson in why the turtle/deathball style has died off.

Died off? Watching most PvZ's, I really wouldn't come to the same conclusion. It's still extremely popular and powerful, and few zergs can punish it like Morrow.
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
July 04 2011 00:00 GMT
#5669
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's a very powerful unit comp

morrow's zvp is soooo good :O


immortals are very good vs ling/baneling/infestor?

dont know why that would work.

storm is the only answer to this but storm sucks so bad now and is so hard to get.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 04 2011 00:00 GMT
#5670
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's a very powerful unit comp

morrow's zvp is soooo good :O


I think you mean to say zealot/HT/immortal (no way you can get afford stalkers with this.) Zealots don't do anything when they're fungled.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 04 2011 00:00 GMT
#5671
On July 04 2011 08:58 nodule wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's a very powerful unit comp

morrow's zvp is soooo good :O


what's the role of immortals against ling/bane/infestor?


Once your Colossus get NP'd you can use the immortals to kill them before they can hurt you!

+ Show Spoiler +
:D
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
July 04 2011 00:00 GMT
#5672
so no advantage for the WB winner at all?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
July 04 2011 00:01 GMT
#5673
On July 04 2011 08:58 nodule wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's a very powerful unit comp

morrow's zvp is soooo good :O


what's the role of immortals against ling/bane/infestor?

tank banes, prevent roach/ultra switch. but yeah, you might be able to cut out the immortals against non-roach compositions
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 04 2011 00:01 GMT
#5674
i wonder how they decide the player order cause mouz is getting all the matchups they could possibly want. zvp with morrow, and now pvt with mana
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 00:03:09
July 04 2011 00:02 GMT
#5675
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.


You would have to controll this army very different than before and really carefully, otherwise the zerg just does get even more infestor heavy and just destroys you imo.

Maybe Archon heavy with as much blinkstalker as you have gas left and just canon the shit out of your expansions, cause you'll have a lot of unspent minerals. o.o But not sure either.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
July 04 2011 00:03 GMT
#5676
Chargelot, Archon, HT works wonders against morrows build. and it's all based off warp gates/twilight tech so you essentially can tech switch to blink stalkers if you see him going roaches.
Go go Alliance.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 00:05:09
July 04 2011 00:03 GMT
#5677
On July 04 2011 09:00 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's a very powerful unit comp

morrow's zvp is soooo good :O


I think you mean to say zealot/HT/immortal (no way you can get afford stalkers with this.) Zealots don't do anything when they're fungled.

you don't really need that many high templars, as long as you control them well. but yeah, it's pretty unexplored/unrefined and I'm just theorycrafting

I've seen it be successful from time to time, and a couple people have said that it's a good alternative to the colossus/stalker ball
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 00:04:39
July 04 2011 00:03 GMT
#5678
On July 04 2011 09:01 zev318 wrote:
i wonder how they decide the player order cause mouz is getting all the matchups they could possibly want. zvp with morrow, and now pvt with mana


Luck of the draw basically...

If Complexity can just pick up one of the 1v1's, they're all but guaranteed and Ace match because of how good Drewbie and Catz are... I'm hoping they can pick up a match here.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 04 2011 00:03 GMT
#5679
On July 04 2011 09:00 Jayjay54 wrote:
so no advantage for the WB winner at all?

They choose first maps/
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 04 2011 00:04 GMT
#5680
On July 04 2011 09:01 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:58 nodule wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:56 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:39 coL.Minigun wrote:
yea, that style is really hard to deal with, I'm not sure what the best response is, stargate play if unscouted is obviously good with it, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe void/colossi army, kinda like before infestors were buffed.

have you experimented at all with stalker/ht/immortal? it's pretty unexplored but a lot of people say that it's a very powerful unit comp

morrow's zvp is soooo good :O


what's the role of immortals against ling/bane/infestor?

tank banes, prevent roach/ultra switch. but yeah, you might be able to cut out the immortals against non-roach compositions

What do you mean might? They are worthless against non-roach compositions. Getting them to tank banes is an idiotic idea when there is no gas commitment on Roaches and there are that many lings, not to mention the robotics time that you have to commit to Immortals...

Archons preform a the role infinitely better against non-roach...
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