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TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
July 03 2011 23:06 GMT
#5561
On July 04 2011 08:05 coL.Minigun wrote:
why are so many people trying to tell select how to play....

and Im pretty sure cruncher was purposely throwing away armies because it was quite obvious he had already won.


yeah guys listen to minigun
coLCruncher fighting!
seoul_kiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States545 Posts
July 03 2011 23:06 GMT
#5562
On July 04 2011 08:04 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:02 seoul_kiM wrote:
On July 04 2011 07:58 Badfatpanda wrote:
On July 04 2011 07:55 seoul_kiM wrote:
lol at select just waiting to lose....what an idiot...


You're right, with your impressive tournament results you could easily represent your team for the past 2 days more than any other player on dignitas. And it's definitely not crunchers fault that he keeps suiciding retardedly small armies without suiciding the probes to just kill him.


Starcraft 2 isn't my profession. It is for him.
Cruncher's strategy obviously works for him against a over patient type like Select.


He was playing very conservatively because if he lost that game to something he wasn't prepared for, his team would be knocked out of the tournament. As observers you have to remember that select doesn't have the vision we do, he probably had no idea that 109/200 of crunchers supply was all probes.


After you wipe the opponent's army you at least push an expansion or something. He literally wiped the army. All the colossi + ground forces, nothing like retreated and was defending. Select was sitting on like 30-40marauders 12 vikings and like 6-8 medivacs. He couldve at least pushed up.
oGs.MC: Repair IMBAAAAAAAAAAa
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 03 2011 23:07 GMT
#5563
On July 04 2011 08:03 eourcs wrote:
sigh. Cruncher playing like a dumbfuck lategame, but select can't really capitalize on army advantage when protoss has 35 gateways + chrono and 4 robos producing

Edit: Select didn't play well either but cruncher got a big advantage after he got away with a really risky late robo build

Late robo isn't risky.


And no race can captalize on an army advantage when the other has five bases mining to your half a base
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
July 03 2011 23:07 GMT
#5564
After seeing Cruncher vs Bischu i can just imagine a roflstomp if it were Nani vs Cruncher :p
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 03 2011 23:07 GMT
#5565
On July 04 2011 08:05 Ghostpvp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:03 Darpa wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:02 EpicQQ wrote:
How come Naniwa never ace matches for Dignitas?


I havent seen naniwa all day. And given how good he is, seems strange.


He doesn't want to play with the Eu ---> NA latency.

Really? His internet connection must be pretty bad because EU to NA is fine for me.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
July 03 2011 23:07 GMT
#5566
Does team from winners bracket have any advantage over team from losers bracket?
Nothing to add.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
July 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#5567
On July 04 2011 08:05 coL.Minigun wrote:
why are so many people trying to tell select how to play....

and Im pretty sure cruncher was purposely throwing away armies because it was quite obvious he had already won.


That really doesn't excuse crunchers first game battle that went terribly because of his engagement positions and decisions.

If select wouldve just pushed the advantage the game could very well evened out or be won outright by select.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
July 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#5568
I wanted to see carrriers, he made 3 stargates
Go go Alliance.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#5569
On July 04 2011 08:02 kNyTTyM wrote:
soo.. I don't see anyone that can take out morrow so what can col do?

Col just needs to go 2-2 in the 1v1 matches and they win the finals, because they should win the 2v2 easily.
Off-season = best season
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#5570
I'll be extremely surprised if coL can put up a fight with Mouz.

They seem like a pretty unimpressive team overall, kept alive by the joke that is 2v2.
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 23:09:52
July 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#5571
On July 04 2011 08:07 Arc1 wrote:
Does team from winners bracket have any advantage over team from losers bracket?


They get to pick first map for each match.

Just try to remember, select doesn't have the vision you do, and there was a lot on the line for him that game.

On July 04 2011 08:08 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:05 coL.Minigun wrote:
why are so many people trying to tell select how to play....

and Im pretty sure cruncher was purposely throwing away armies because it was quite obvious he had already won.


That really doesn't excuse crunchers first game battle that went terribly because of his engagement positions and decisions.

If select wouldve just pushed the advantage the game could very well evened out or be won outright by select.


meh, I didn't see any time where cruncher was about or even close to losing, except maybe the cloaked banashee.
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#5572
On July 04 2011 08:07 Arc1 wrote:
Does team from winners bracket have any advantage over team from losers bracket?

I think they get to pick the opening maps. Bar that, none. Kinda silly tbh, they really should get an advantage.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
July 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#5573
On July 04 2011 08:06 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:02 vdale wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:01 Serpico wrote:
cruncher literally has no idea how to engage in the late game. Just ugly as hell and mass gateways/warp in saves him.


And still he was the much better player in this game. Such a horrible game by Select.


Yup, select missed his 5-6 minute window to win when cruncher was still on like 110 probes


Would of thought something was up when Cruncher sends 20 probes or so suicided into SeleCT's army.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
July 03 2011 23:09 GMT
#5574
On July 04 2011 08:05 coL.Minigun wrote:
why are so many people trying to tell select how to play....

and Im pretty sure cruncher was purposely throwing away armies because it was quite obvious he had already won.

Because they clearly have a better understanding of this game than select.......
Ghostpvp
Profile Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
July 03 2011 23:09 GMT
#5575
On July 04 2011 08:07 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:05 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:03 Darpa wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:02 EpicQQ wrote:
How come Naniwa never ace matches for Dignitas?


I havent seen naniwa all day. And given how good he is, seems strange.


He doesn't want to play with the Eu ---> NA latency.

Really? His internet connection must be pretty bad because EU to NA is fine for me.


That's the the rumor going round the campfire anyways.
Move Zig
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 23:12:01
July 03 2011 23:09 GMT
#5576
I honestly think that Naniwa not playing vs Mouz and coL gave Dignitas 3rd place instead of 2nd or 1st, which costed them at least $1000, and arguably they would've been the favourites to win $3000 more than they ended up with.
THE ANSWER IS 288
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 03 2011 23:09 GMT
#5577
On July 04 2011 08:07 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:05 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:03 Darpa wrote:
On July 04 2011 08:02 EpicQQ wrote:
How come Naniwa never ace matches for Dignitas?


I havent seen naniwa all day. And given how good he is, seems strange.


He doesn't want to play with the Eu ---> NA latency.

Really? His internet connection must be pretty bad because EU to NA is fine for me.


He's in the TLO House in sweden and i think they have some problem with their internet. ( correct me if i'm wrong )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
July 03 2011 23:10 GMT
#5578
On July 04 2011 08:06 seoul_kiM wrote:

After you wipe the opponent's army you at least push an expansion or something. He literally wiped the army. All the colossi + ground forces, nothing like retreated and was defending. Select was sitting on like 30-40marauders 12 vikings and like 6-8 medivacs. He couldve at least pushed up.


There's a lot more factors then you seem to think there is. Did you forget about the fact that cruncher's army's must've looked suspiciously small to select? Or how about that fact that select was worried about DT's being warped into his main when his army moved out? Theres a lot more mind games in play, especially when losing that game to something as foolish as being caught off guard by DT's would cost his team $1000.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
July 03 2011 23:11 GMT
#5579
Go coL! I believe in them.
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 23:12:53
July 03 2011 23:11 GMT
#5580
On July 04 2011 08:08 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 08:05 coL.Minigun wrote:
why are so many people trying to tell select how to play....

and Im pretty sure cruncher was purposely throwing away armies because it was quite obvious he had already won.


That really doesn't excuse crunchers first game battle that went terribly because of his engagement positions and decisions.

If select wouldve just pushed the advantage the game could very well evened out or be won outright by select.

It was quite literally a 100 food army vs 170food army, the smallest mistake in engagement means that Cruncher gets rolled. But that doesn't matter, all he has to do is to just kill units whilst hes on Selects side of the map because he can resupply and Select can't.

EDIT:

SelecT couldn't push out also. What was he going to do? Start pushing through endless waves of DT warpins? Sure he might kill a ton but he will eventually lose everything and leave his orbitals completely dry
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