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On May 06 2011 10:27 MajorityofOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 10:26 eluv wrote: haha, this is kind of hilarious to be honest. Guess that Hydra attack really is "all in" Moman was up 16 harvesters lol. You have to know as Zerg that roach hydra isnt going to work against Colossi with good forcefields
Roach/Hydra doesn't work Period. I wish zergs would just stop using it.
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Hydras are so amazing.
Unless you throw them at multiple Colossi.
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Just gotta take that with a smile. It was 100 vs 55 supply or somthing after the agression by moman. Then TT1 CRUSHES moman, or colossus crushes hydras if u will. Kinda disgusting, but also really bad followup by moman, a better zerg would have held that off.
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Oh my god, forget anything I said about nice play by MoMaN.... Fucking miserable game from both sides.
MoMaN had no follow up... engaging in that tight space when TT1 had only like two sentries.... no spire.... Trying his very hardest to make colossi look imbalanced.
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Wow,Moman played so bad after that hydra push. He's macro slipped waaaay out of control (was at around 1300 minerals,700 gas for a long time),didn't get corruptors even tho he saw colossi+ he built the roach warren right in the middle,and that worked totally against him. Just bad play overall.
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Basically both players playing terribly but someone has to win.
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Moman didn't build anything with a 40 supply lead and TT1 closed it to a less than 10 supply difference (with 10 less workers mind you). Also Moman decided to pull back into his choke instead of spreading for a flank and that seems like a bad decision.
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How dumb can you be to see a P force coming and then moving all your units into one corner. And what TT1 did in G1 and at the start of G2 was just as bad. NA players so bad I swear.
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On May 06 2011 10:29 Neokarasu wrote: Moman didn't build anything with a 40 supply lead and TT1 closed it to a less than 10 supply difference (with 10 less workers mind you). Also Moman decided to pull back into his choke instead of spreading for a flank and that seems like a bad decision. you dont out maneuver people with hydras off creep usually.
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Talk about throwing away a extremely won game. TT1 played terribly yet still won :/.
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Why is Gretorp so goddamn handsome today?! <3 <3
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Just tuned in, whats the score so far?
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+ Show Spoiler +Either make Immortals or make nothing. He has money and he has idle production facilities. An Immortal is just as good as two stalkers.
Better, actually. Hardened shields works a little vs hydras and it takes twice the damage to take out an immortal's DPS than it does to halve a pair of stalkers'
That was dissapointing by moman, he could have sacked those hydras in the open with a good concave and done a lot more damage then cleaned up with the roaches. You absolutely cannot ever under any circumstances allow a protoss to engage you in your own (or their) natural or another semi-choke, it's better to burn your units in the open than retreat to reinforce and lose position.
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On May 06 2011 10:27 MajorityofOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 10:26 eluv wrote: haha, this is kind of hilarious to be honest. Guess that Hydra attack really is "all in" Moman was up 16 harvesters lol. You have to know as Zerg that roach hydra isnt going to work against Colossi with good forcefields
This is exactly what I'm saying. Even doing some good economic damage, you're going to have a hard time holding the followup if you don't straight-up kill your opponent. So it's an all-in.
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On May 06 2011 10:29 Neokarasu wrote: Moman didn't build anything with a 40 supply lead and TT1 closed it to a less than 10 supply difference (with 10 less workers mind you). Also Moman decided to pull back into his choke instead of spreading for a flank and that seems like a bad decision. Please, Don't bring your "logic" and "analysis" into this thread, TT1 won because it's PvZ!
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On May 06 2011 10:27 MajorityofOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 10:26 eluv wrote: haha, this is kind of hilarious to be honest. Guess that Hydra attack really is "all in" Moman was up 16 harvesters lol. You have to know as Zerg that roach hydra isnt going to work against Colossi with good forcefields
If he didn't sit on so many minerals and gas before the fight and had roaches instead plus attacked him in an open space whilst he was coming instead of the tiniest space available probably on the entire map he would have held that attack. TT1 had enough for one lot of forcefields and hardly any gateway units to protect his colossi.
The composition doesn't work but he was that far ahead that it would have just been too much.
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well now, thats an all in all right
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