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compLexity Gaming is proud to announce WEEK 15 of its biggest initiative in the StarCraft 2 community, The V! The best test of skill in SC2 is of course the 1 v 1, and we're going to showcase it every week with a best of 7 series between two invited players. The winner will receive $100, and the loser will just have to hang his head in shame as he types "gg." Whoever wins The V will be expected to play the very next week at the same time!
Here are the details for Week 15:
Who: + Show Spoiler +Juan "sixjax.Terran" Lopez Michael "Vile.Spanishiwa" Yabut - Zerg![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/m6K14.jpg) When:Friday, May 6th, 23:00 GMT (+00:00) (7 p.m. EDT, 4 p.m. PDT, 1 a.m. CEST May 7th)
Stream: Cast by AskJoshy and potentially a compLexity Staff or Player co-caster. Stream can be seen on the front page of compLexityGaming.com
Format: Best of 7 series, map pool is as follows:
- Game 1: Crossfire SE
- Game 2: Tal'Darim Altar LE
- Game 3: Terminus RE
- Game 4: Metalopolis
- Game 5: Typhon Peaks
- Game 6: Xel'Naga Caverns
- Game 7: Shattered Temple
In the event of a disconnect, the game replay will be reviewed by a player panel to determine if a re-game is necessary. If one player disconnects three times in a single night, he will forfeit the series and the non-disconnecting player will be asked back to the next V.
Prizes: The winner of the best of 7 series will receive $100 via Paypal and be invited to play again the following week. The loser will receive nothing. Every week we have a different giveaway for our viewers, so be sure to tune in for instructions on how to win!
This week's viewer prize is $100 USD! Provided by compLexity Gaming's newest partner, Origin PC: http://www.originpc.com/landing/teamcomplexity.asp
I know I'd be watching with a $100 raffle, haha. =P
So come join us for the fifteenth ever edition of "The V" and see if Terran/MajOr from sixjax can topple our reigning champion (defeating Minigun in Week 12, 4-3; Spades in Week 13, 4-2; KawaiiRice in Week 14, 4-2), Vile Gaming's Spanishiwa!
Please feel free to vote in the poll and leave a comment with your series score prediction!
Poll: Who will win The V Week 15?!Vile.Spanishiwa (195) 65% sixjax.Terran (106) 35% 301 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 15?! (Vote): Vile.Spanishiwa (Vote): sixjax.Terran
Results! + Show Spoiler +Spanishiwa < Cross Fire SE> MajOr Spanishiwa < Tal'Darim Altar > MajOr Spanishiwa < Terminus RE > MajOr Spanishiwa < Metalopolis > MajOr Spanishiwa < Typhon Peaks > MajOr
Congratulations to MajOr, winning 4-1!
VODs! Start Here With Game 1!
Week 1 - 14 Archives! + Show Spoiler +Week 1 Stuff! Liquid`Tyler vs. ROOT.drewbie! + Show Spoiler +Week 2 Stuff! Liquid`Tyler vs. FXOSheth! + Show Spoiler +Results: + Show Spoiler +Tyler <Xel'Naga Caverns> Sheth Tyler < Lost Temple > Sheth Tyler < Delta Quadrant > Sheth Tyler < Metalopolis > Sheth Tyler < Shakuras Plateau > Sheth Tyler < Scrap Station > Sheth Tyler < Blistering Sands > Sheth Sheth wins 4-3! Congratulations! The VOD's are now up on YouTube:+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 2?Liquid`Tyler (95) 63% FXOSheth (56) 37% 151 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 2? (Vote): Liquid`Tyler (Vote): FXOSheth
Week 3 Stuff! FXOSheth vs. NrG.dde! + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 3?FXOSheth (55) 59% NrG.dde (38) 41% 93 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 3? (Vote): FXOSheth (Vote): NrG.dde
Results: + Show Spoiler +Sheth <Metalopolis> dde Sheth < Xel'Naga Caverns > dde Sheth < Scrap Station > dde Sheth < Lost Temple > dde Sheth < Delta Quadrant > dde
dde wins 4-1! Congratulations! VODs: Start HERE with Game 1. (Keep in mind I am a moron and had my mic muted for the first game, it comes back in game 2.) Week 4 Stuff! NrG.dde vs. EG.Axslav! + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 4?!EG.Axslav (46) 61% NrG.dde (29) 39% 75 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 4?! (Vote): NrG.dde (Vote): EG.Axslav
Results:+ Show Spoiler +Axslav < Xel'Naga Caverns > dde Axslav < Metalopolis > dde Axslav < Delta Quadrant > dde Axslav < Lost Temple > dde
Axslav wins 4-0! Congratulations! VODs are here! Start with Game 1! Week 5 Stuff! EG.Axslav vs. ROOT.Slush! + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 5?!EG.Axslav (39) 51% ROOTSLush (38) 49% 77 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 5?! (Vote): EG.Axslav (Vote): ROOTSLush
Results: + Show Spoiler +Axslav <Metalopolis> Slush Axslav < Lost Temple > Slush Axslav < Xel'Naga Caverns > Slush Axslav < Shakuras Plateau > Slush Axslav < Steppes of War > Slush
Axslav wins 4-1! Congratulations! VODs are here: Clicky Clicky!Here's an interview with our winner!: + Show Spoiler + Week 6 Stuff! EG.Axslav vs. Dignitas SjoW! + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 6?!Dignitas SjoW (54) 56% EG.Axslav (43) 44% 97 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 6?! (Vote): EG.Axslav (Vote): Dignitas SjoW
Results: + Show Spoiler +Axslav <Xel'Naga Caverns> SjoW Axslav < Scrap Station > SjoW Axslav < Metalopolis > SjoW Axslav < Lost Temple > SjoW Axslav < Shakuras Plateau > SjoW Axslav < Blistering Sands > SjoW Axslav < Steppes of War > SjoW SjoW wins 4-3! Congratulations! VOD's: Start here with Game 1! Week 7 Stuff! coL.CrunCher vs. LG.PainUser! + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 7?!LG.PainUser (68) 62% coL.CrunCher (41) 38% 109 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 7?! (Vote): LG.PainUser (Vote): coL.CrunCher
Results: + Show Spoiler +PainUser < Xel'Naga Caverns > CrunCher Painuser < Shattered Temple > CrunCher PainUser < Crossfire SE > CrunCher PainUser < Metalopolis > CrunCher PainUser < Typhon Peaks > CrunCher
Congratulations to CrunCher for winning 4-1! VODs: Start here with Game 1! Week 8 Stuff! coL.CrunCher vs. Dignitas SjoW! + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 8?!Dignitas SjoW (80) 75% coL.CrunCher (26) 25% 106 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 8?! (Vote): Dignitas SjoW (Vote): coL.CrunCher
Results: + Show Spoiler +SjoW < Xel'Naga Caverns > CrunCher SjoW < Shattered Temple > CrunCher This sucker was a stalemate! We re-gamed. SjoW < Shattered Temple > CrunCher SjoW < Crossfire SE > CrunCher SjoW < Metalopolis > CrunCher SjoW < Typhon Peaks > CrunCher
Congratulations to CrunCher for winning 4-1! VOD's: Start here with game 1! Week 9 Stuff!: coL.CrunCher vs. EG.LzGaMeR! + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 9?!CrunCher (37) 58% LzGaMeR (27) 42% 64 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 9?! (Vote): CrunCher (Vote): LzGaMeR
Results: + Show Spoiler +LzGaMeR < Xel'Naga Caverns > CrunCher LzGaMeR < Shattered Temple > CrunCher LzGaMeR < Crossfire SE > CrunCher LzGaMeR < Metalopolis > CrunCher LzGaMeR < Typhon Peaks > CrunCher
Congratulations to CrunCher for winning 4-1! Week 10 Stuff!: coL.CrunCher vs. EG.StrifeCro + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 10?!CrunCher (36) 59% StrifeCro (25) 41% 61 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 10?! (Vote): CrunCher (Vote): StrifeCro
Results: + Show Spoiler +CrunCher <Shattered Temple> StrifeCro CrunCher < Backwater Gulch > StrifeCro CrunCher < Terminus RE > StrifeCro CrunCher < Metalopolis > StrifeCro
CrunCher wins 4-0! Congratulations! VODs: Start here with Game 1! Week 11 Stuff!: coL.CrunCher vs. Root.Minigun + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 11?Root.Minigun (74) 60% coL.CrunCher (50) 40% 124 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 11? (Vote): coL.CrunCher (Vote): Root.Minigun
Results: + Show Spoiler +CrunCher <Shattered Temple> Minigun CrunCher < Backwater Gulch > Minigun CrunCher < Terminus RE > Minigun CrunCher < Metalopolis > Minigun CrunCher < Typhon Peaks > Minigun CrunCher < Xel'Naga Caverns > Minigun CrunCher < Crossfire SE > Minigun
Minigun wins 4-3! Congratulations! VODs: Start here with Game 1! Week 12 Stuff!: Root.Minigun vs. Vile.Spanishiwa + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 12?!Vile.Spanishiwa (222) 55% Root.Minigun (185) 45% 407 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 12?! (Vote): Root.Minigun (Vote): Vile.Spanishiwa
Results! + Show Spoiler +Spanishiwa <Shattered Temple> Minigun Spanishiwa < Backwater Gulch > Minigun Spanishiwa < Terminus RE > Minigun Spanishiwa < Metalopolis > Minigun Spanishiwa < Typhon Peaks > Minigun Spanishiwa < Xel'Naga Caverns > Minigun Spanishiwa < Crossfire SE > Minigun
Spanishiwa wins 4-3! Congratulations! VOD's! Start here with Game 1! Week 13 Stuff!: Vile.Spanishiwa vs. VT.Spades + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 13?!Spanishiwa (173) 87% Spades (25) 13% 198 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 13?! (Vote): Spanishiwa (Vote): Spades
Results! + Show Spoiler +Spanishiwa <Shattered Temple> Spades Spanishiwa < Backwater Gulch > Spades Spanishiwa < Terminus RE > Spades Spanishiwa < Metalopolis > Spades Spanishiwa < Typhon Peaks > Spades Spanishiwa < Xel'Naga Caverns > Spades
Spanishiwa wins 4-2! Congratulations! VOD's!: Start here with Game 1! Week 14 Stuff!: Vile.Spanishiwa vs. FnaticMSI.KawaiiRice + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win The V Week 14?!Vile.Spanishiwa (149) 54% FnaticMSI.KawaiiRice (129) 46% 278 total votes Your vote: Who will win The V Week 14?! (Vote): FnaticMSI.KawaiiRice (Vote): Vile.Spanishiwa
Results! + Show Spoiler +Spanishiwa <Shattered Temple> KawaiiRice Spanishiwa < Tal'Darim Altar > KawaiiRice Spanishiwa < Terminus RE > KawaiiRice Spanishiwa < Metalopolis > KawaiiRice Spanishiwa < Typhon Peaks > KawaiiRice Spanishiwa < Xel'Naga Caverns > KawaiiRice
Spanishiwa wins 4-2! Congratulations! VODs! Start HERE with Game 1!!
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holy crap we finally get to see terran play, or is it kitty or princess, or major : )
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The Artosis Pick vs The Fan Pick
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Awesome player choice! Go spanishiwa!
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Expecting Major/Terran/Kitty/Princess to win, but would love to see Spanishiwa once again!
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ooo, interesting matchup. I love seeing these up-and-coming players
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ez money for Terran, this is going to be 4-0 (:
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silly maker that is because you are terran.. kidding of course: ]
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Terran should take this, but then again I didn't expect Spanishiwa to beat minigun or kawaiirice. Maybe he can surprise us again
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On May 05 2011 03:26 ChrisGraphex wrote: silly maker that is because you are terran.. kidding of course: ]
No it's because they're both LA..
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I foresee a drop or three. The observer for this game is going to have his work cut out for him =D
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Euhm, Spanishiwa recently beat a pretty ok terran in a Bo7 4-0 very hard a short while ago + Show Spoiler +
So I'm definitely voting for Spanishiwa
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cant wait till ppl realize theres balance issues with this match up, at least with the way some players play Zerg. not bashing on Spanishiwa, its smart to play to your strengths. ^_^
hoping Terran wins, and I think he has at least a 50% chance if he prepares.
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This should be a fun one to watch.
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I thought he's called major now.
Rooting for Spanishiwa in this one.
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On May 05 2011 03:49 Bobster wrote: Rooting for Spanishiwa in this one. Who doesnt?
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They've taken lots of games off of eachother in practice so this can go either way. Terran is actually really good, he's probably better than Spanish
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root kitty is actually really good o.o; This might be very interesting.
Root Kitty, root princess, root Britnney, aka Sixjax Terran, right? >.> I don't know if I got lost along the way.
One very underestimated player one of those who can take out anyone.
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Terran can definitely beat Spanishiwa if he prepares... His multitasking should win him the game.
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When does Spanishiwa lose to terrans anymore? I like him, but have to root against him just because I'm Terran and want to see how to stop him! :p GL both players though.
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On May 05 2011 04:02 GertHeart wrote: root kitty is actually really good o.o; This might be very interesting.
Root Kitty, root princess, root Britnney, aka Sixjax Terran, right? >.> I don't know if I got lost along the way.
One very underestimated player one of those who can take out anyone.
you forgot sixjaxMajor
Anyway rooting for Spanishiwa but I don't see him winning.
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3 Terran in a row? And such a scary opponent too T_T
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On May 05 2011 03:38 PhiliBiRD wrote: cant wait till ppl realize theres balance issues with this match up, at least with the way some players play Zerg. not bashing on Spanishiwa, its smart to play to your strengths. ^_^
hoping Terran wins, and I think he has at least a 50% chance if he prepares.
lolwut?
I've seen Terran take more games off Spanish in practice than the other way around...I think his multitasking is on a completely different level.
With decent preparation I say MajOr takes this 4-1 or 4-2.
And tell your imbalance complaints to the overabundance of Terran in the GSL. ZvT is one of the most balanced matchups.
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If Spanishiwa doesn't get careless it's an easy win for him.
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Gogo Spanishiwa!! The Swarm is counting on you! GL HF
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I really hope Spanishiwa can take this week again. I'm loving this kid's play, I can't get enough of it lol. Spanishiwa Fighting!!!
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Terran should destroy him, his mechanics are just so much better. I'm rooting for Spanishiwa though!
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On May 05 2011 05:23 Pokebunny wrote: Terran should destroy him, his mechanics are just so much better. I'm rooting for Spanishiwa though!
I agree.
Spanishwa is VERY good player, but his mechanics need practice. He has a great future, but needs to get better mechanics
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I want Spanishwa to win, but i'm sure kitty will take the victory.
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Eh this is probably the first time I say Spanishiwa is going to take this and I'm actually fairly confident in that rather than voting by heart. xD
Anything can happen though.
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TvZ is kitty's weakest matchup though, might be interesting...
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4-0 for Juan, his mechanics are too good.
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I feel spanishiwa should take this. I'm sure sixjax.Terran has better mechanics etc, but he should have problems with a non-standard game.
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MajOr actually played a bunch of practice games against Spanishiwa on Spanishiwa's stream a few days ago. If anyone can find the archive of that, you might get some idea of what Friday's match will look like. Either way, go Spanishiwa!
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This is going to be awesome. Thanks coL you guys own :D
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
wow cool matchup, gonna tune into this. Terrans mechanics are insane as everyone else has said so he should win this convincingly
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Terran may have better mechanics, but he's also relatively new to the game and probably doesn't have such a deep understanding of matchups even in standard play. I think one of the ROOT guys in the thread about him joining sixjax said that he pretty much only "copies what Koreans do".
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I seen alot more of spanishiwas play that terrans, so i guess my opinion is not super informed. But the way spanishiwa has been owning up Ts lately, ill say he wins it.
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Hopefully SixJaxMajOr will be able to analyze Spanishiwa's play and counter it. He doesn't seem too adverse to trying new stuff so it should be interesting!
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Feel like spanishiwa is going to win, because every player I see go up against him just plays standard, when his strategy has real vunerabilties.
Idk, If Major or w/e his name is actually studies him, he could easily 4-0 it, otherwise he'll probably lose 4-2/4-3
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According to Artosis, Terran's worst matchup is actually TvZ, so Spanishiwa stands a good chance to win, pretty excited for this match though, good luck and have fun to both sides.
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Battle of the Mechanics vs Unique Style. The mind is going with GoSi, but heart says Spanishiwa, either way Spanishiwa will have his hands full with a stream of marines headed his way non-stop. Hoping for some GGs
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Should be a great series, excited for this to start.
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Looks like there's a lot of interest and a lot of conflicting opinions on this match-up. No matter who wins, the series should be quite epic. =D
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I love how the V gives new and up & coming players a chance to showcase their stuff. Wish the prize pool was a little bigger, the games have been pretty awesome.
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Good stuff, I like this match up!
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Rooting for Spanishiwa all the way and dang
On May 05 2011 03:23 drewbie.root wrote: ez win for spanishiwa
Interesting take Drewbie :p
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On May 05 2011 05:08 Novalisk wrote: If Spanishiwa doesn't get careless it's an easy win for him.
What? sixjaxTerran is off-and-on #1 GM in U.S. >.>
Spanishiwa is fan-favored, but sixjaxTerran is better.
Heck, Spanishiwa even got roflstomped by Destiny.
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Spanishiwa has some very good results recently. Of course a best of 7 could go either way, but I really don't know who is favored. Terran has won a couple of cups and things in the last few weeks as well.
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On May 05 2011 10:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 05:08 Novalisk wrote: If Spanishiwa doesn't get careless it's an easy win for him. What? sixjaxTerran is off-and-on #1 GM in U.S. >.> Spanishiwa is fan-favored, but sixjaxTerran is better. Heck, Spanishiwa even got roflstomped by Destiny.
Not sure if it's fair to judge a player by a mirrormatch.
Especially considering his style doesn't work that great in ZvZ, it's insane in ZvT and ZvP.
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I hope Terran wins but I think zerg will be too strong
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Tomorrow niiiiight it'll be awesome.
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As a Mexican I'm rooting for Major, as a Zerg I'm rooting for Spanishiwa. I'm not really sure whose deserve more my loyalty
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Would think 4-0 for sixjax.opera but he did 4-2 kawaii. Didn't watch the games yet but I would have guessed 4-1 or 4-2 for kr there.
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you guys should see spanishiwa's stream... Major played him and the results were quite even. Spanishiwa beat him twice then he got rolfstomped the next two games.
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On May 05 2011 10:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 05:08 Novalisk wrote: If Spanishiwa doesn't get careless it's an easy win for him. What? sixjaxTerran is off-and-on #1 GM in U.S. >.> Spanishiwa is fan-favored, but sixjaxTerran is better. Heck, Spanishiwa even got roflstomped by Destiny. That's not really the same thing and I've seen kitty lose to destiny a few times
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Maybe they're both holding back in their practice games, or when they meet on the ladder, because they know this showmatch will be seen by a lot of people and there's money on the line? =)
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On May 05 2011 03:38 PhiliBiRD wrote: cant wait till ppl realize theres balance issues with this match up, at least with the way some players play Zerg. not bashing on Spanishiwa, its smart to play to your strengths. ^_^
hoping Terran wins, and I think he has at least a 50% chance if he prepares.
Yep. I'm gonna say if spanishiwa hits the infestor broodlords without much damage or relative safely he wins 4-0.
if terran can manage to win off 2 base tank marine or other various all-ins, he will win. So i'm gonna predict 4-0 for spanishwa or 4-3 for spanishiwa, the 3 games in that scenario gosi will have won with a timing attack or all-in off 1-2 bases.
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On May 05 2011 10:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 05:08 Novalisk wrote: If Spanishiwa doesn't get careless it's an easy win for him. What? sixjaxTerran is off-and-on #1 GM in U.S. >.> Spanishiwa is fan-favored, but sixjaxTerran is better. Heck, Spanishiwa even got roflstomped by Destiny.
I don't really think Spanishiwa getting beaten by Destiny is much of an indicator since Spanishiwa has stated on more than one occasion that ZvZ is his weakest match-up.
I'm more curious to see what kind of role the maps will play, whether or not the matches play exactly into what Idra said during State of the Game this week. (Difficulty in scouting for ZvT on larger maps make it so that Z have to play blind, and therefore inherently behind in the match-up)
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On May 06 2011 13:46 azka wrote:As a Mexican I'm rooting for Major, as a Zerg I'm rooting for Spanishiwa. I'm not really sure whose deserve more my loyalty 
MEXICO goo mexico! duhhh.....
i dont think people know how good terran really is....like if you watch his decision making for how young he is. its pretty damn impressive. he is only 17 and he knows exactly what to do and his multi task is probably his strongest area. I think spanishiwa is good in terms of macro, but will have a lot of problems dealing with a higher level terran. I mean the guy laddered for 2-3 after coming onto sc2 from bw and he was top ranked in GM already o.O...
so yeah... go mexico
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On May 07 2011 02:51 v1n1z1o wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 13:46 azka wrote:As a Mexican I'm rooting for Major, as a Zerg I'm rooting for Spanishiwa. I'm not really sure whose deserve more my loyalty  MEXICO goo mexico! duhhh..... i dont think people know how good terran really is....like if you watch his decision making for how young he is. its pretty damn impressive. he is only 17 and he knows exactly what to do and his multi task is probably his strongest area. I think spanishiwa is good in terms of macro, but will have a lot of problems dealing with a higher level terran. I mean the guy laddered for 2-3 after coming onto sc2 from bw and he was top ranked in GM already o.O... so yeah... go mexico
Yeah, Terran hasn't streamed tons of his games and doesn't have a lot of fame, but it is RIDICULOUS how good Major is. I honestly think they should be great games and I'm not sure Span will be able to handle Major's late game constant aggression. Spanishiwa thrives off of constantly being the attacker, the harasser, the offensive, and with Major's skills and playstyle I don't know if he'll be able to get comfortable.
That being said, both players are incredible and they should be really fun to watch.
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Terran is much better mechanically, so Spanishiwa will definitely have to rely on some funky builds and decision making to win
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Your a fool if you didn't pick the new best Zerg
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Bulgaria2443 Posts
Spanish had a really tough streak in his last ladder session, i'm a bit anxious before his match with Britney/Princess/Kitty/Terran/Major.
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Just a few more hours until we see the battle of the 17 year olds. =D
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I'm curious to see if the voting is because of popularity or if Spanishiwa is really the favorite
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I want Spanishiwa to win, but I think it's gonna be Terran.
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On May 07 2011 03:30 Huge O wrote: Your a fool if you didn't pick the new best Zerg
Is IdrA still new? XD
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Spanishiwa's ZvT seems pretty awesome, looked great in the games against TLO. I reckon he has this. 4 - 2.
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On May 07 2011 02:18 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 03:38 PhiliBiRD wrote: cant wait till ppl realize theres balance issues with this match up, at least with the way some players play Zerg. not bashing on Spanishiwa, its smart to play to your strengths. ^_^
hoping Terran wins, and I think he has at least a 50% chance if he prepares. Yep. I'm gonna say if spanishiwa hits the infestor broodlords without much damage or relative safely he wins 4-0. if terran can manage to win off 2 base tank marine or other various all-ins, he will win. So i'm gonna predict 4-0 for spanishwa or 4-3 for spanishiwa, the 3 games in that scenario gosi will have won with a timing attack or all-in off 1-2 bases.
Haha, your QQ is so sad bro. Just because you can't macro doesn't mean it's imbalanced. Take a look at every major tournament, terrans have a 50%+ win rate vs zerg, more then often 75% of those games being macro. Spanishiwa's style is one of the easily counterable in the game. If you scan and don't see gas, take a 3rd. It's that simple.
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Question is.. Do i stay inside to watch this? Or go outside.. hmm
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On May 07 2011 07:31 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 02:18 avilo wrote:On May 05 2011 03:38 PhiliBiRD wrote: cant wait till ppl realize theres balance issues with this match up, at least with the way some players play Zerg. not bashing on Spanishiwa, its smart to play to your strengths. ^_^
hoping Terran wins, and I think he has at least a 50% chance if he prepares. Yep. I'm gonna say if spanishiwa hits the infestor broodlords without much damage or relative safely he wins 4-0. if terran can manage to win off 2 base tank marine or other various all-ins, he will win. So i'm gonna predict 4-0 for spanishwa or 4-3 for spanishiwa, the 3 games in that scenario gosi will have won with a timing attack or all-in off 1-2 bases. Haha, your QQ is so sad bro. Just because you can't macro doesn't mean it's imbalanced. Take a look at every major tournament, terrans have a 50%+ win rate vs zerg, more then often 75% of those games being macro. Spanishiwa's style is one of the easily counterable in the game. If you scan and don't see gas, take a 3rd. It's that simple.
Don't try too reason with philibird or avilo. Both of them don't really know what their talking about in general. For some reason EU/Korean terrans are doing good vs zergs but those 2 + many other NA terrans are struggling. I do think major will win this though, if it gates late game broodlord/infestor and he makes ghosts which is what needs too be used then he'll win even late game, if he does the usual and doesn't make any ghosts I could see spanishiwa winning again with his broodlord/infestor style late game with queens.
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On May 07 2011 07:42 Engore wrote: Question is.. Do i stay inside to watch this? Or go outside.. hmm
Go outside and watch this anyway! ^^
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On May 07 2011 07:42 Engore wrote: Question is.. Do i stay inside to watch this? Or go outside.. hmm Obviously stay inside and watch!
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Finished exams: going to chill with some soothing Joshy commentary; I don't know, it just seems like he's one of the few casters like tastosis and moletrap that actually knows what's going on in the game.
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Will definitely watch this one, even over the other two great tournaments going on right now.
That's how much I like the V. My favourite showmatch series for sure.
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Spanishiwa, king of guerilla tactics. or
Infestors = new lurkers
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Australia8532 Posts
Spanishiwa hwaiting looking sexy on crossfire!
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spanishiwa's midgame style is so imba wtf OO;
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That wasn't even close. This spanish guy is pretty good
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On May 05 2011 05:37 FawkingGoomba wrote: 4-0 for Juan, his mechanics are too good.
Uh Oh!!! Spanishiwa!!!
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Nice offensive transfuses.
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yeah spanish is gonna take this 4-0,4-1, That many infestors with no ghost support no chance ^^.
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Man, so fun to watch.
Spanishiwa is the Zerg player with a Terran mindset. :lol Puts up a lot of defensive structures early and then just pushes slowly across the map with his siege units. >_>
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Everything he's doing looks so solid. Spanishiwa really has a gameplan and sticks to it
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What was that game? Really it was amazing, I like this lots of lings with upgrade and all tier 2-3 units for zerg for the rest. However Spanishiwa was playing a bit on the edge with one spine 1 queen and 3 lings when Major was walking around with 10 marines at the start of the game.
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Man, that push is so annoying to try to stop >.> You can't attack with marines because the infestors just own them, vikings get beaten by infestors + corruptors and the broodlords can do whatever.
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Damn missed game 1. Good to see Spanishiwa winning though
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On May 07 2011 08:21 NPF wrote: What was that game? Really it was amazing, I like this lots of lings with upgrade and all tier 2-3 units for zerg for the rest. However Spanishiwa was playing a bit on the edge with one spine 1 queen and 3 lings when Major was walking around with 10 marines at the start of the game.
I just tested out 10 marines with no stim vs 3 lings 1 spine and queen with 1 transfuse. Lings with no speed. Zerg wins pretty easy.
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Im a bit disappointed in Terran/Majors play. Ive never seen him play or anything but, people seemed to hype him up so much whenever he was mentioned anywhere.
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For all his 350 apm Major is pretty sloppy
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On May 07 2011 08:30 StutteR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 08:21 NPF wrote: What was that game? Really it was amazing, I like this lots of lings with upgrade and all tier 2-3 units for zerg for the rest. However Spanishiwa was playing a bit on the edge with one spine 1 queen and 3 lings when Major was walking around with 10 marines at the start of the game. I just tested out 10 marines with no stim vs 3 lings 1 spine and queen with 1 transfuse. Lings with no speed. Zerg wins pretty easy.
Wow, spinecrawlers are stronger than I thought... then again I'm protoss so I just kill zerg in lategame while killing expansions.
Anyhow, love the queen play to kill all the medivacs.
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One ultralisk + 10 queens plowing through a tank line
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HERO ULTRALISK KILLING 5 TANKS
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amazing how cost efficient zerg can play
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On May 07 2011 08:31 lim1017 wrote: Im a bit disappointed in Terran/Majors play. Ive never seen him play or anything but, people seemed to hype him up so much whenever he was mentioned anywhere.
Just from these two matches, it's pretty clear that he has damn good mechanics and multitasking. Look at all those drops, reminiscent of qxc.
Surprised that Spanishiwa who always favours statics defences doesn't stick more spores and spines in his bases. Even with Nydus, he's not quick enough to react to all these drops.
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Holy shit, Major is ridiculously good...
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Even with nyduses spanishiwa's army is just too immobile. He at the very least needs several spines at every expo
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The harvester/base count is looking pretty bad for Spanishiwa.
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One ghost and major could have ended this a loooooooooooooong time ago
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On May 07 2011 08:38 syllogism wrote: Even with nyduses spanishiwa's army is just too immobile. He at the very least needs several spines at every expo high five + Show Spoiler +neogaf hivemind represent
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It's the Boxer supply depot at the watchtower!
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Man I love these two. Major is sick. Spanishiwa has to be careful the next few games he's being metagamed a little bit.
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i like those spines looks like he adapted
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Australia8532 Posts
Argh spanishiwa teching to ultras is depressing :/ definitely a bad bad move
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United States7116 Posts
Ouch, throwing away Broods.
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Oh god, every game running over 20 minutes easy, this is going to be a long night. :lol
Idra's wish of ghosts in the TvZ lategame is getting fulfilled by major (who he regards pretty highly I feel) here.
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Zerg on 3 bases, given game length, likely 1/2 mining bases. Terran keeps denying outlying expos.
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Terran completely forgot about combat shields, it probably would have made quite a difference.
Edit: nevermind, apparently combat shields are overrated...
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Josh, Ghosts can SNIPE.... that's what's killing Blords, not Marauders.....
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Broodlords are getting sniped Joshy, nothing to do with Vikings.
I don't even know how Spanishiwa is supporting Ultras and Broods off three bases.
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Australia8532 Posts
Hmm, you can see how spanishiwa's mechanics are not really on the level as Terran, if he had better mechanics this game would have been over, so many blords are being sacrificed
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GIRAFFE MIGRATION INCOMING
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Ghosts are pretty good. Even though I feel emp's could be used a little better but glad too finally see a terran make some ghosts vs this style as queens can't transfuse with energy ^^.
Sick game 3 though very entertaining :D.
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This is reminding of the opposite of usual TvZ. Zerg seemingly more cost effective and slow pushing to terran main, while terran with better eco but losing more.
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why spanishiwa never took his natural 4th is beyond me. he lost so many expos trying to be cute and hiding them.
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I'm rooting for Spanishiwa to win, but Terran is just plainly outclassing him in terms of unit control and multitasking.
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how dumb to be trying to take major's 4th base, one tank denies whole base....
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I have to agree. A bad expo choice for spani isn't helping the push.
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This is seriously one of the best SC2 games I've seen yet. Spanishiwa slow-pushing.. Ghost vs Infestor/Broodlord wars... Drops everywhere... Setting up a friggin contain with spine crawlers and queens!
Very entertaining games thus far. Hope they release the replays.
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holy fuck snipes countering neural parasites countering siege tanks
So high level.
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United States7116 Posts
Haha, this is a ridiculously entertaining game from both players. Props to them
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maybe he should scout terran's other bases...
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lol neural parisited ghosts look kind of like kerrigan :D
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Now that was a cool game.
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No way Major can lose this game, but it's still fun to watch. :lol
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GG
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These infestor brood lord corruptor queen / viking marine tank ghost battles are extremely entertaining and give me hope for the future of SC2
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Heh, Spanishiwa plays like a terran the way he slow pushes. He desperately needed to have a faster fourth though.
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lol..major had two expos like right next to spanish and he didn't notice that whole time..
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If spanishiwa just scouted the terran expansions he would have taken it. How could he not see them? Or did he see them but ignored them?
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Great game, it almost seemed like Spanishiwa wouldve been able to kill him when he took out Major's 4th. Props to Terran for his ghost usage and snipes. Just hope he remembers combat shields next game
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On May 07 2011 09:08 Gorlin wrote: Heh, Spanishiwa plays like a terran the way he slow pushes. He desperately needed to have a faster fourth though.
Securing bases is really hard with his style. No mutas and constant drop play just crunches it.
I almost feel like you can do a base trade with spanishiwa when he does his slowpush. Just load up and hit the main.
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lol spanish doesn't like these awesome maps? Weird zerg :/.
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On May 07 2011 09:09 VoirDire wrote: If spanishiwa just scouted the terran expansions he would have taken it. How could he not see them? Or did he see them but ignored them?
He couldn't really do anything. He had a bunch of slow immobile units and if any of them moved out he'd just get rolled over
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On May 07 2011 09:10 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:08 Gorlin wrote: Heh, Spanishiwa plays like a terran the way he slow pushes. He desperately needed to have a faster fourth though. Securing bases is really hard with his style. No mutas and constant drop play just crunches it. I almost feel like you can do a base trade with spanishiwa when he does his slowpush. Just load up and hit the main.
Spanishiwa started out great with the defensiv spines in the mineral lines. But he didn't keep that up. Just make 3 spines at every expo. It's expensiv but necessary with his limited mobility.
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Spanishiwa would have won that game if he just built broodlords instead of those 9 infestors, and expanded to his own 4th expansion rather than TERRAN's fourth.
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On May 07 2011 09:12 throttled wrote: Spanishiwa would have won that game if he just built broodlords instead of those 9 infestors, and expanded to his own 4th expansion rather than TERRAN's fourth.
disagree, major was ahead by like 80 food that whole game after denying spanish's bases all game. Even though spanish finally got a 4'th, even in a better position I don't think he would have won he just didn't have the supply nor get enough money for the units (and terran probably would have dropped it too).
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Major's multitasking looking really good right now.
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Hellions taking down a hatchery!
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and this is why Zerg techs...
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Holy crap, I thought for a second I was going to see helions kill an expo. Imagine that
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The only drones that survive are those hiding in the smoke.
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Major has won this game with literally just blue flame hellions. No way to come back now.
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Major has almost more helions the Spanishiwa has drones.... not a good sign
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Ouch... blue flames strong vs. low tech.
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Ok, that was utter domination...
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Spanishiwa just doesn't have the mechanics to keep up with him.
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HEEEEEEEEEEEELLIONS
Good lord.
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he scouts the factory but doesnt go roaches? ;f
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T.O.P.
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On May 07 2011 09:19 jmbthirteen wrote: Spanishiwa just doesn't have the mechanics to keep up with him. He doesn't have the right units.
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cant believe he didnt read blue flame hellion after scouting the front factory with tech lab...
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spanish played wayyy too greedy that game. He saw the tech lab (green) with a factory that early, he should have suspected blue flamed hellions at least I would have.
No spines, late late gas he was asking for it lol . Well played by major very good multi tasking ^_^
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zixjax MaJor completely OWNING spanishiwa, gj from Artosis recruiting him
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Spanishiwa way too greedy... Didn't even have ling speed when the blue flame hellions hit.
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Ouch. The hellions. Spanishiwa forgot spine crawlers? I think SixjaxMajor's aggressive style is just taking advantage of Spanishiwa's inability to defend harrass well.
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On May 07 2011 09:20 T.O.P. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:19 jmbthirteen wrote: Spanishiwa just doesn't have the mechanics to keep up with him. He doesn't have the right units.
True, but I think he just can't multitask on the same level either
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On May 07 2011 09:20 VPCursed wrote: he scouts the factory but doesnt go roaches? ;f
Yep. Bad reaction, really.
Should've known it was hellions that early in the game and all.
And his style seems to rely on spines, he didn't make any...
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gj from Artosis recruiting him
Now how long will he stick around.
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On May 07 2011 09:20 T.O.P. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:19 jmbthirteen wrote: Spanishiwa just doesn't have the mechanics to keep up with him. He doesn't have the right units. I'm not talking about just the hellions. I'm talking about the whole series. He isn't a mechanically strong player, he will even tell you that. This high harass style of Terran is very difficult for a player with bad mechanics to keep up with.
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Can't tune in, is it 1-1 right now?
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On May 07 2011 09:24 [Atomic]Peace wrote: Can't tune in, is it 1-1 right now?
Currently 3-1 sixjaxTerran
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On May 07 2011 09:24 [Atomic]Peace wrote: Can't tune in, is it 1-1 right now? 3-1 sjTerran in the lead.
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On May 07 2011 09:20 loving it wrote: Ouch. The hellions. Spanishiwa forgot spine crawlers? I think SixjaxMajor's aggressive style is just taking advantage of Spanishiwa's inability to defend harrass well.
I don't think it's Spanishiwa's "inability to defend harrass," I think it's more Spanishiwa is used to sitting back and almost turtling until he's ready to dictate the pace of the game. Spanishiwa succeeds as the aggressor and MajOr is simply not willing to let him play that role. Also, Major is a pimp.
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Wow 2 hellions just roasted about 8 drones without dying.
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On May 05 2011 03:23 drewbie.root wrote: ez win for spanishiwa
Your lack of faith is disturbing. Opposite of what you say has happened twice now kind of hilarious :D
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Spanishiwa's is probably shaked up from all those losses. Very anti climatic
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Well it looks like Artosis first recruit is bringing his team a bit of fame.
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Terran just ROLLED spanishiwa 4-1.
ggs I guess -.-
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Congrats to terran. Hes just going to keep getting better and better. Im sure his tvz is improving quickly playing with his broodwar buddies Idra and Ret.
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Sheth for next week anyone???
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impressed by terran. and TvZ is his worst MU apparentely
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keep in mind that spanishiwa isnt the 1 who played bad, terran just plays alot better to make him look bad.
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Wow that was really disappointing. It looked like Terran read Spainishiwa perfectly (his style is kinda popular?) and Spainishiwa just went into every game as if he was laddering.
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Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already.
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First three games were fantastic, great series once again. Grats to major.
Good job, the V.
Also, think about having a guest caster to help support you, Josh. Very hard to keep up with multitasking and those drops on your own.
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Thx Josh. That was some Majorasskicking the last 2 matches.
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On May 07 2011 09:31 kataa wrote: Wow that was really disappointing. It looked like Terran read Spainishiwa perfectly (his style is kinda popular?) and Spainishiwa just went into every game as if he was laddering. They have played against eachother quite a bit in practice I think
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On May 07 2011 09:24 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:20 T.O.P. wrote:On May 07 2011 09:19 jmbthirteen wrote: Spanishiwa just doesn't have the mechanics to keep up with him. He doesn't have the right units. I'm not talking about just the hellions. I'm talking about the whole series. He isn't a mechanically strong player, he will even tell you that. This high harass style of Terran is very difficult for a player with bad mechanics to keep up with. Mutalisks are just as important as mechanics when it comes to holding off medivac drops. I watch Spanishiwa stream a fair bit, and he's constantly dying to drops and banshees and similar things because he can just never kill air units.
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On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already. What are those flaws? o.O
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I like this caster. He remindes me of Diggity. Oh happy days.
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On May 07 2011 09:32 supdubdup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already. What are those flaws? o.O
You watched the series, right?
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Hmm. Wonder if this gains him any respect with the community.
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On May 07 2011 09:32 supdubdup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already. What are those flaws? o.O
that queens are slow as shit, cost 150 mins, and do next to no damage.
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That was a pretty underwhelming series. Ah well, three wins for spanishiwa isn't that shabby
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On May 07 2011 09:32 supdubdup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already. What are those flaws? o.O He doesnt have anything that shoots up. oh and he doesn't build lings. so scouting is kind of impossible =/
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On May 07 2011 09:32 supdubdup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already. What are those flaws? o.O Mostly lack of mobility.
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On May 07 2011 09:33 Engore wrote: Hmm. Wonder if this gains him any respect with the community.
Nope, not from me, anyways. There was never a question of his abilities/potential..
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On May 07 2011 09:32 supdubdup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already. What are those flaws? o.O
I mean ... it's already been discussed by much better players than me (Darkforce, idra, etc.).
Basically no scouting information the last 2 games. Ghosts > Infestor + Queen. Spanishiwa favors an entirely immobile army and couldn't defend drops well enough. Can't build enough spines because if you do, you're losing the econ advantage in the build.
Again though, I'm only a gold player, go look at posts by Darkforce and listen to idra talk about the build. Take what they have to say way more seriously than anything I type because I'm an over the hill gamer.
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props to Terran, he had some excellent preparation for this series.
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Well, those hellions won't always do that much damage. But good to see that this hype might get a halt now.
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On May 07 2011 09:34 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:32 supdubdup wrote:On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already. What are those flaws? o.O Mostly lack of mobility. And zero map control or way to deny a very early expo
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props to Terran/Kitty/Princess (they are all the same right?) he worked out how to defeat this build - that has had everyone so excited for weeks - by just watching some replays.
Spanishiwa apparently did not have an alternative strategy ready, his response to the losses were to increase the intensity of his build which increased the speed at which it failed.
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Very entertaining games tonight, I definitely recommend those vods!
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On May 07 2011 09:34 AimForTheBushes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:33 Engore wrote: Hmm. Wonder if this gains him any respect with the community. Nope, not from me, anyways. There was never a question of his abilities/potential..
Well i think there are several people who don't give him credit for his GM rank just because of what people think about his personality. I'd never seen him play till now. Looked sharp, really don't have much against him because i didn't follow what his problems/drama was.
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Updated OP with results, working on VODs now! Thanks for making this the most-viewed edition of The V to date. =)
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It's important to note that top Zergs like Sheth struggle with Major from time to time as well. Major's multitasking and harass ability is impressive. Hard to handle for any Zerg!
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Please update this thread when the VODs are ready, I can't wait to pop a bottle and watch this.
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On May 07 2011 12:47 [Atomic]Peace wrote: It's important to note that top Zergs like Sheth struggle with Major from time to time as well. Major's multitasking and harass ability is impressive. Hard to handle for any Zerg!
Doesn't he cheese Sheth a lot though?
But you make a very good point. Major is everywhere at once. Spanishiwa isn't a mechanically strong player and just couldn't handle all the pressure Major was putting on.
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Artosis understands the principle of not changing your handle. Now he just has to get it into this little weirdo's head...
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Spanishwa said he wants the terran to defend by using Nyduses because with lack of multitasking you can't be aggressive at the same time (so he can drone, tech up, get the advantage basically).
Unfortunately it doesn't work versus someone who has the mechanics of MajOr.
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Spanishiwa lost the macro games because he couldn't multitask as well as Major and the other games because he got to gready and didn't build any spinecrawlers to defend against the hellions. Still love Spanishiwas style and hope to see more of him but Major were the better player yesterday.
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On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already.
the flaws in his builds have been exposed for quite a while, whether by discussion in the ice fisher build thread, sotg, and by several -lesser than gositerran- players he loses to decisively on ladder.
the hype is for the concepts/ideas behind the style, not for his execution of it, or particular build orders.
true, there is also some hype for the guy himself, because he's a very young talent, a swell guy, and that is justified too, because for all his flaws with decision making and general understanding of matchups, he managed to get to such a high level of play with basically just laddering, and doing a completely unique style with very solid concepts behind it.
as with any style and upcoming player, there has to be evolution from exposed flaws and improvement through high-level sustained practice. if he can get rolling on that, he's bound for sc2 glory. even if not, he's still hella entertaining to watch so well worth any hype he gets
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The problem was not with the style it was the execution and poor decision making. The style is very solid vs basically every strategy Terran threw at him. Once VoD's go up, I'm gonna rewatch all these games and make a detailed post about it. Would be very disappointed if people suddenly thought this invalidates the style, when the problems were obvious; mainly poor decision making and mediocre mechanics.
Just a quick snippet of what I mean from what I remember:
Game 2:
The point of nydus in this style is to make a would be immobile army extremely mobile, it should only be used for offensive (especially in opponents base) purposes in rare cases where the opportunity truly presents itself. The attack in game 2 was not one. The threat of offensive potential is enough for the terran to take up a centralized siege position. Not only did he attack into a terrible choke, but it was a position fortified with a PF and a plethora of siege tanks. He had no need to deny that base, the correct move would have been to keep his Ultra/Queen Defensive threat and expand to the bottom left half of the map with worms at each base. The drops would have been easily denied if the worms went up as the expos were going up.
That's just a basic explanation from what I remember, I can break it down much more in depth with the VOD/Replay in front of me.
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Spanishiwa just got outplayed. Major was multi-tasking like a mad man and Spanishiwa just couldn't keep up.
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Just saw the results, gonna check out the VODs to check out the multi-tasking from Terran since I haven't really seen gosi play in a while
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On May 07 2011 21:55 anatem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 09:31 hagrin wrote: Not ... even ... close.
sixjaxMajor just exposed basically every flaw in Spanishiwa's style and build order. I think we can settle down on the hype already. the flaws in his builds have been exposed for quite a while, whether by discussion in the ice fisher build thread, sotg, and by several -lesser than gositerran- players he loses to decisively on ladder. the hype is for the concepts/ideas behind the style, not for his execution of it, or particular build orders. true, there is also some hype for the guy himself, because he's a very young talent, a swell guy, and that is justified too, because for all his flaws with decision making and general understanding of matchups, he managed to get to such a high level of play with basically just laddering, and doing a completely unique style with very solid concepts behind it. as with any style and upcoming player, there has to be evolution from exposed flaws and improvement through high-level sustained practice. if he can get rolling on that, he's bound for sc2 glory. even if not, he's still hella entertaining to watch so well worth any hype he gets 
This entirely. The hype over Spanishiwa isn't that he's the best Zerg player in NA, not that this build is really impressive. It's more the fact that as such a young & entertaining player; anyone who has watched his stream will already know how he interacts with his viewers, as well as the fact he has a really good game sense. If he polished his mechanics some more, he could compete with the highest level of players (As seen from the fact he's already GM).
Just watching him ladder is quite entertaining due his quick thinking and attempts at reacting to whatever the opponent throws him. Games where he gets all-ined, barely repels it but is contained. Then sneaks several infestors into the enemy's mineral line to fungal growth the workers to bring himself back in the game. Games like these is what has earned him this hype.
This isn't to say he's unstoppable, there are also a fair number of games where he simply loses due to certain aspects that he's not entirely great at stopping, i.e. constant drops+harass.
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Sapnishwa's build really shows the glaring absense of Mutas and what they can do.
Mutas grant serious map control. He NEVER makes Mutas and therefore he's completely countered by crippling drops everywhere.
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I still love you Spanishiwa, you made some mistakes here but I have faith that you will only get better from it.
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On May 07 2011 08:21 Weird wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 05:37 FawkingGoomba wrote: 4-0 for Juan, his mechanics are too good. Uh Oh!!! Spanishiwa!!!
Close enough. I think my prediction was pretty accurate though.
On May 07 2011 09:33 Engore wrote: Hmm. Wonder if this gains him any respect with the community.
No. It doesn't. There was never a question of his skill/potential, he's always been insanely good. But time and time again he proves that the community should not take him seriously as a person.
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Nice terran stuff... Well deserved win.
As far as Spanishiwa losing, many of the posts here seem... odd... to me.
So, Spanishiwa starts doing these best of 7's the last month and beats Root.Minigun, And VTSpades and Kawaiirice and even TLO...
Then he finally loses a series against a very good player and people jump out of the woodwork saying, "See! I told you this style was not viable!"
Um... What?
Like a poster above said, I think Spanishiwa is still to be lauded for bringing attention to more ways of playing Zerg. Also, in listening to him on his stream, I wish more people around here were even HALF as polite and well-mannered as he seems to be.
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