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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:15 Aequos wrote: Out of curiosity, besides what iNcontrol said, what are the weaknesses to opening Spanishiwa style? It seems pretty good in theory (be immune to early pressure, have good income). Being greedy. Zerg has almost no way to pressure the protoss, you can cut corners like a mofo. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:15 Frozenserpent wrote: Don't be blind. Machine had about as good of a unit position he could hope for. Broodlords shell army from a distance -> blink stalkers blinked to fight the broodlords -> which was where the roaches were, so pretty much all the roaches were fighting. The positioning of the battle wasn't a mistake by machine. What was a fault was army comp. At the end, machine had a stockpile of gas, and he could have afforded to get good infestor numbers. High infestor numbers also happens to be very useful to stop large numbers of blink stalkers from blinking underneath your broodlords. He should have waited a bit, get like a dozen infestors, and then pushed, and it would have been much more powerful. His Broodlords were in range of Storm though. Machine could have easily use a Nydus or an overlord drop to get Hasu out of position. Def agree with the lack of Infestors, with such tight chokes he can turn the entire map against Hasu with 8-9+ Infestors | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:18 Dommk wrote: His Broodlords were in range of Storm though. Machine could have easily use a Nydus or an overlord drop to get Hasu out of position. Def agree with the lack of Infestors, with such tight chokes he can turn the entire map against Hasu with 8-9+ Infestors Hasuobs had a bunch of high templar, and used feedback occasionally against overseers etc. I think machine felt infestors would be useless for that reason. | ||
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MattRz
Chile1679 Posts
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
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Al Bundy
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:18 Dommk wrote: His Broodlords were in range of Storm though. Machine could have easily use a Nydus or an overlord drop to get Hasu out of position. Def agree with the lack of Infestors, with such tight chokes he can turn the entire map against Hasu with 8-9+ Infestors With 8-9 infestors, he would of only had 5 brood lords and few banes. Gas restriction~ | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
that's quite sick. | ||
Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
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will.pity
Australia89 Posts
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Aequos
Canada606 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:21 will.pity wrote: really bad fight/control by machine imo in that first engagement. Spanishiwa style is forgiving if you are cost inefficient but you cant miss all the sentries with banelings... That was alot of losses He did burn a lot of sentry energy though, which is pretty good for the next time he engages. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:21 Mailing wrote: With 8-9 infestors, he would of only had 5 brood lords and few banes. Gas restriction~ That wasn't really the issue, he had all the time in the world, Hasuobs was waiting for Machine. The main problem was all those useless roaches, they simply don't have the range needed to do anything in a choke. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:21 Mailing wrote: With 8-9 infestors, he would of only had 5 brood lords and few banes. Gas restriction~ He was floating like 2k gas at the end of the game. Machine may have had 99 problems, but gas wasn't one  Hasuobs had a bunch of high templar, and used feedback occasionally against overseers etc. I think machine felt infestors would be useless for that reason. That is where the map works against Hasu, with such tight and narrow path ways, how do you get Templars close enough to feedback Infestors? | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
this style is SO hard to beat, but he does somehow oO | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On May 01 2011 13:22 DiaBoLuS wrote: HasuObs fight management is simply nothing but perfect... this style is SO hard to beat, but he does somehow oO actually you crush it pretty easily by turtling up and just watching the minimap for drops. | ||
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
The casting though as I said before has improved a ton in general, I'm laughing so much tonight. | ||
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Everhate
United States640 Posts
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DX_4
Germany180 Posts
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