$100 bo7 Spanishiwa vs. KawaiiRice! "The V" - Page 7

On April 30 2011 10:03 DeltruS wrote:
GosiTerran would be really cool. He is quite good but, as far as I know, the only tournament he has played in is the FXO invitational. Not only that, but he lost to Spanishiwa in an amazing Shakuras Plateau game casted by Husky recently, so there may be a slight grudge between them.

On April 30 2011 12:57 VoirDire wrote:
I'm surprised none of spanishiwas opponents actually counter his build. They must have heard of it by now. The counters are pretty laid out in the BO-threat by players like darkforce.

On April 30 2011 17:11 Talin wrote:


It's not just a "build", he actually has quite a few variant builds, it's the whole mindset or strategy that is currently hard for most people to play against unless they:

a) are mechanically superior player by far (which is how scfou iirc beat Spanishiwa in FXO)
b) Have played enough games against that style of Zerg to intuitively understand the concept.

Then there's the whole matter of dissecting his play and coming up with exact and properly timed strategies instead of going into games with just some vague counter ideas. It's weird that so many people mentioned Kawaii's beastly TvZ when it was always obvious that you can't bring your normal TvZ logic against this particular opponent.

Anyway, it'd be interesting to see a ZvZ next. =)

On April 30 2011 18:10 Topdoller wrote:



Yeah I agree, his style of play is almost "random" in nature so his opponents are off balance and are not sure how to play him unlike players who go standard such as Idra.

Its good to see Zerg players trying new strats and pushing the game to new levels.

On April 30 2011 21:41 VoirDire wrote:

With the late gas, he has no scouting ability, no map control and no way to put on pressure. Yet people try to 2 base timing attack him.

On May 01 2011 05:25 Spanishiwa wrote:


Hey man don't hate. It's not like I went no gas every game -_-. I mix it up, depending on what i see.. sometimes I put fake gas, sometimes I do roach timings, or maybe baneling all in idk. Easy to say 'just counter' but scouting is difficult when your opponent is intentionally being tricky.

air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate

On April 30 2011 12:57 VoirDire wrote:
I'm surprised none of spanishiwas opponents actually counter his build. They must have heard of it by now. The counters are pretty laid out in the BO-threat by players like darkforce.

On May 01 2011 10:59 VoirDire wrote:

I'm sorry, I'm actually hating. But I've been following the discussion by darkforce & co in the Ice fisher thread and I'm dying to actually see their "theorycraft" in action. There is a lot of proposed counters. But no real substance, like replays or vods of them working. That's why I felt so frustrated when I heard miniguns comment after his loss:



Which off course the ice fisher is great against. GAh.

It would be very good for the "ratings" (*wink* *wink* "the V"-admins) to match you up with say... darkforce.

I've learned a lot from your build btw, I try to delay my gas and ling speed as much I feel comfortable with in most of my games now. To be able to use both the first injects to drones does wonders for getting drone saturation.

On May 01 2011 18:51 Mikilatov wrote:
I just wanted to say that I love this showmatch series.

I run the tournament roundup newsposts here on TL and these are by far the easiest showmatches to follow and track results. It's also the most exciting. =P Keep it up.