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PearlsBeforeSwine
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada91 Posts
April 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#6601
I wish they had talked to IdrA. I'd really like to know whether that was RQ or horrible idea.
Woop.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
April 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#6602
On April 13 2011 02:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:43 oo inflame oo wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.


what else is he supposed to do?

his job


Funny, anyone else giving this kind of answers would get banned.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
April 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#6603
On April 13 2011 02:48 GenoZStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:47 Senx wrote:
Im kind of curious as to what the EG managment thinks of one of their player purposely throwing a game away because he's "fed up" with the game balance.

I'm kind of worried about Idras status in EG or as a pro player in general to be honest, I would not be surprised if he just takes a extended break from the game really soon.


You've got nothing to worry about.


So you guys don't care about it then I guess? The players dont have a responsability in representing the organisation in a decent way?
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
April 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#6604
Sorry but Idra have a really bad mindset. When you actually think you can't win ZvP just because of imbalance, you are going basically to lose. If Fruitdealer in season1 or MC in season 3 had this mindset and waited blizzard to patch the game, they would never win.

Idra you can continue to think negative, throw games over and over and wait to blizzard to the rescue. Or you can change your mindset and try to take every small chances you have to win games. It's up to you.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
April 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#6605
It hurts my head that anytime Idra loses I have sift through this balance crap. Apparently the game is only balanced if Idra wins all the time.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
April 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#6606
MC with the good brain
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Enceladus
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden225 Posts
April 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#6607
I dont think really that sjow can beat whitera, so we're gonna see yet another PvP final.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
April 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#6608
On April 13 2011 02:50 Fablezzz wrote:
I wish they had talked to IdrA. I'd really like to know whether that was RQ or horrible idea.


Huk refused to get interviewed because he was upset, you can imagine how Idra feels..
teacash
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada494 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6609
Idra was prolly pissed when he found out that the map pool didn't contain any of the new macro gsl maps
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6610
On April 13 2011 02:47 potatomash3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote:
uhhhhhhhhhhh

IdrA throws away 3-4 queens a few ovies and some drones vs a phoenix opening... has MC on the ropes but then stops attacking...

IdrA gets 7 bl's and sticks his army in a choke spot and dies easily "PVZ IMBALANCED!"

MC had 0 defenses at both his 3rd/4th. IdrA took a late 4th / never corrupted after killing the Collo in the first fight and didn't scout expansions. Late on infesters as well. Had he waited for infesters and massed some bl's while harrassing the expos with lings or something he'd be fine and that is ONLY after him NOT throwing 4 base of production into 2 collo (idra had corruptors out) and 5 stalkers...

The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus


I think its been proven enough times that Idra doesn't try.


Yea he was only the best zerg at MLG by random chance. He also only beat TLO by random chance.
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
brum
Profile Joined January 2011
Hungary187 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6611
I'd nominate the posh sounding host guy for Time Person of the Year if that title still meant something.
Seriously, i laughed so much at his jokes/awkward interviews.
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6612
Who fucking cares if he 6 pooled into the loss. He was going to lose the series anyways. Better to get it done and over with than drag it out into another disappointing "Zerg losing entire army and killing 10 stalkers" series.

Game is a joke. And god forbid anyone calls that out, we're just horrible people to suggest the game may be at a disadvantage for zerg.
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
Endure
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 17:51:49
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6613
On April 13 2011 02:47 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote:
uhhhhhhhhhhh

IdrA throws away 3-4 queens a few ovies and some drones vs a phoenix opening... has MC on the ropes but then stops attacking...

IdrA gets 7 bl's and sticks his army in a choke spot and dies easily "PVZ IMBALANCED!"

MC had 0 defenses at both his 3rd/4th. IdrA took a late 4th / never corrupted after killing the Collo in the first fight and didn't scout expansions. Late on infesters as well. Had he waited for infesters and massed some bl's while harrassing the expos with lings or something he'd be fine and that is ONLY after him NOT throwing 4 base of production into 2 collo (idra had corruptors out) and 5 stalkers...

The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus


Maybe you should actually play a game from a zergs perspective. I'm getting so tired of protoss players, pros or not, throwing their opinion around when they have never actually expierenced it


maybe you should try the game from a protoss perspective, i'm getting so tired of zerg players, pro or not, throwing their opinion around when they have never actually experienced it.
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6614
On April 13 2011 02:50 Samhax wrote:
Sorry but Idra have a really bad mindset. When you actually think you can't win ZvP just because of imbalance, you are going basically to lose. If Fruitdealer in season1 or MC in season 3 had this mindset and waited blizzard to patch the game, they would never win.

Idra you can continue to think negative, throw games over and over and wait to blizzard to the rescue. Or you can change your mindset and try to take every small chances you have to win games. It's up to you.


You don't recall Fruit sixpooling in the semi-finals then?
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6615
well, in game 1 you saw what a comeback he had, so give Idra even if, a little credit (exclude game 2).
i think he is the only one who can own MC, if he would play on his peak
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
zasda
Profile Joined March 2011
381 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6616
On April 13 2011 02:47 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote:
uhhhhhhhhhhh

IdrA throws away 3-4 queens a few ovies and some drones vs a phoenix opening... has MC on the ropes but then stops attacking...

IdrA gets 7 bl's and sticks his army in a choke spot and dies easily "PVZ IMBALANCED!"

MC had 0 defenses at both his 3rd/4th. IdrA took a late 4th / never corrupted after killing the Collo in the first fight and didn't scout expansions. Late on infesters as well. Had he waited for infesters and massed some bl's while harrassing the expos with lings or something he'd be fine and that is ONLY after him NOT throwing 4 base of production into 2 collo (idra had corruptors out) and 5 stalkers...

The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus


Maybe you should actually play a game from a zergs perspective. I'm getting so tired of protoss players, pros or not, throwing their opinion around when they have never actually expierenced it

hahaha and the zergs obviously have played high level as protoss? please...
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6617
On April 13 2011 02:47 Senx wrote:
Im kind of curious as to what the EG managment thinks of one of their player purposely throwing a game away because he's "fed up" with the game balance.

I'm kind of worried about Idras status in EG or as a pro player in general to be honest, I would not be surprised if he just takes a extended break from the game really soon.



Yeah seriously.. I mean if you want to be pro gamer then do your best to win. If you don't like game balance then either deal with it or change race or don't play the game! But travelling to tournament and throwing away game is not how pro gamer should do
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
RavenCC
Profile Joined April 2011
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 17:51:57
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6618
You guys act like IdrA made a "stupid mistake that cost him the game." He didnt. Game was lost regardless of what happened to the brood lords, and anyone paying attention to the battle knows that.

Tyler just keep on preachin', I'm sure you're gonna make lots of converts. If you're lucky the heavens will allow TL to get past the first round in the next tournament.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6619
On April 13 2011 02:48 Tyree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:40 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +

Only the protoss are arguing against it, he isn't a martyr, he literally can not win. Like I said before, MC said he will never lose to a zerg, unless they nerf. When the best protoss player literally says I like the nerfs because I want to win fairly, you have to believe it.


He could have won it easily, he was ahead and could have done a million things to put a major dent into MC. Then he made a MASSIVE mistake as Idra is known for in many matches and lost his army.

He didnt just throw away his expensive Brood Lords for no reason other than to kill 4-5 probes but he also threw his Hydras into a blender of Storms. 2 major mistakes.

Infact before this fight, i could not see how Idra would lose at all, then he goes and proves me wrong yet again. His own fault, lost to a much better player, MC is a tier above most other players



He put his Brood Lords in the wrong direction for 3 seconds MC Blinks snipes them as Idra tries to reteat he moves his Hydras in to try distract them MC throws down 2 Storms and Idra trys to pull back but the ggstorm damage has been done and he's lost.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
April 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#6620
"88iNcontroL profile

88iNcontroL Has best protoss on planet beat 2-3 times in a macro game makes a huge mistake and quits in game 2... wtf? greg was playing a bo1 i guess "
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