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United Kingdom971 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:47 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote:
uhhhhhhhhhhh
IdrA throws away 3-4 queens a few ovies and some drones vs a phoenix opening... has MC on the ropes but then stops attacking...
IdrA gets 7 bl's and sticks his army in a choke spot and dies easily "PVZ IMBALANCED!"
MC had 0 defenses at both his 3rd/4th. IdrA took a late 4th / never corrupted after killing the Collo in the first fight and didn't scout expansions. Late on infesters as well. Had he waited for infesters and massed some bl's while harrassing the expos with lings or something he'd be fine and that is ONLY after him NOT throwing 4 base of production into 2 collo (idra had corruptors out) and 5 stalkers...
The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus Maybe you should actually play a game from a zergs perspective. I'm getting so tired of protoss players, pros or not, throwing their opinion around when they have never actually expierenced it
I suspect iNcontroL has a better understanding of playing Zerg than you realise. 
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it's funny seeing two of the worst professional protoss players defend their race (tyler and incontrol). i suppose they want to feel like their wins are a result of legitimate skill on their behalf.
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On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.
Amen. It wasn't even smart, why do that in a 2 player map!? Seriusly that was pathetic, and as an spectator i feel angry. I expected a nice battle between one of the best (and as we saw, sadly vastly overrated) foreign zergs representative aganist the 1st Sc2 dominant player (like we saw in game 1). This was another prove of the biggest weakness Idra have, his mindset (prolly one of the key factors for any high level sport) . Still, assuming P is OP, he just gave up...GAVE UP, like any weak person who surrenders aganist a superior adversary, even when u still have chances to fight. For me, this was the end of my respect for Idra as Sc2 "starplayer", at least for a while. `_´
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On April 13 2011 02:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 02:43 oo inflame oo wrote:On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr. what else is he supposed to do? his job
Had to quote this for pure win.
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I see it's easy for protoss player to sit and downtalk idras play. It's easy to sit and point fingers when you're not the one dealing with the bullshit that is zvp.
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Idra really really hates XNC. 
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his job
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lol kidding. irda shouldve never gave up game two. he had a chance.
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I think everyone in this thread needs to chill.
...just chill.
:7
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On April 13 2011 02:32 Brutus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 02:28 Beyonder wrote:On April 13 2011 02:26 MYM.ClouD wrote:
idra outayed him left and right and still lost. sc2 is a fucking joke. So biased, Idra didnt really do much right in this game tbh -_- You are the one that is biased, always shitting on Idra. Idra came back like a BOSS, only to overmade corruptors. Ofcourse Idra didn't play flawless, but he made less mistakes than MC.
Still waiting for your reply.
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On April 13 2011 02:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 02:43 oo inflame oo wrote:On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr. what else is he supposed to do? his job
We all know Idra just rages whole day the last few months and somehow managed to gather this whole group of minions we see crying on these forums now because the master has spoken, kinda sad if you throw away a game like that, but off course it's the balance :D
Idra only loses from himself and until he stops doing retarded shit like this and actually start playing the game he's never gonna win any major tournament anymore.
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On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote:
The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus
That's the truth. Honestly it's exactly like when he left Huk's game when he was ahead. I don't know why Idra has no motivation to play the games through. He could've at least given his fans a spectacular show.
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On April 13 2011 02:42 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 02:40 ImHuko wrote:On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr. Only the protoss are arguing against it, he isn't a martyr, he literally can not win. Like I said before, MC said he will never lose to a zerg, unless they nerf. When the best protoss player literally says I like the nerfs because I want to win fairly, you have to believe it. if you cant see how idra could have won game 1, you are lost
There probably wasn't a point in the game where IdrA could have turned the tide unless he went mass roach instead of hydra. Hydra+blord is just too slow to effectively combat blink stalkers+HT off creep and MC didn't make the huge mistake of going far onto IdrA's creep. The only thing that would have significantly changed the late game of that match was pooling resources/larva for a rapid post-battle reinforcement or many more blords, but none of that is certain given MC's excellent decision making.
Obviously his failed 6 pool was giving the series to MC.
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this is so funny, zerg and terran players after seeing how Jinro and IdrA get both knocked out after literally owning the entire match are stating their point about imbalance, then here we see protoss 'idols' come out to defend and flaming everyone else who disagrees with them.
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On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.
So ZvP is perfectly fine, eh?
Was the infestor buff in 1.3 the moment it became perfectly balanced, and was broken only before? Or in 1.1? or 1.0?
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On April 13 2011 02:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 02:43 oo inflame oo wrote:On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr. what else is he supposed to do? his job
Looking forward to see what you have to say about MC after this tournament Last time you kept mentioning all the weaknesses of his style, and now he shows he has no weaknesses!
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On April 13 2011 02:44 iNcontroL wrote:
uhhhhhhhhhhh
IdrA throws away 3-4 queens a few ovies and some drones vs a phoenix opening... has MC on the ropes but then stops attacking...
IdrA gets 7 bl's and sticks his army in a choke spot and dies easily "PVZ IMBALANCED!"
MC had 0 defenses at both his 3rd/4th. IdrA took a late 4th / never corrupted after killing the Collo in the first fight and didn't scout expansions. Late on infesters as well. Had he waited for infesters and massed some bl's while harrassing the expos with lings or something he'd be fine and that is ONLY after him NOT throwing 4 base of production into 2 collo (idra had corruptors out) and 5 stalkers...
The thing that pisses me off the most though is that OK so you make a mistake at the end and it costs you the game.. why give up on game 2? You had him on the ropes like 3 separate times EVEN IF you want to argue "I can't win!" you at least came REALLY REALLY close vs the best fucking protoss on the planet... what more do you want? Give game 2 a try jesus
Totally agree with this too. Also restating that I am a Zerg player and a fan of Idra.
Idra was in a good position with a chance to win a lot of money, he also needs to realize that he is letting his team down when he does stuff like that.
SotG should be interesting btw.
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On April 13 2011 02:49 Haggis wrote:
Gutted I've missed the majority of this due to being held on a Tuesday during working hours.
Is it a public holiday in Sweden?
"National Dreamhack Day"
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On April 13 2011 02:49 FliedLice wrote:
how did morrow win a game against MC if ZvP is impossible?
serious question, didn't see the game.
MorroW didn't give up on game 2.
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All players now know that Idra "Tilts" easily, all the bashing and taunting you see towards him have a reason, make idra Tilt -> Freewin.
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