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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
April 10 2011 19:30 GMT
#1381
On April 11 2011 04:29 Nelson wrote:
it's me or that game is not live? it's a replay

All TSL games are streamed as replays.
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
April 10 2011 19:30 GMT
#1382
On April 11 2011 04:23 jdseemoreglass wrote:
QXC sees the entire protoss army outside of his base and decides to load up 2 medivacs and fly them away? Huh?

He probably thought Adelscott's bases wouldn't have anything to protect them.
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
BanelingXD
Profile Joined April 2010
130 Posts
April 10 2011 19:30 GMT
#1383


I don't understand why QXC is somehow exempt from people complaining about cheesing/abusive plays.



What exactly is a cheesy abusive play?

If it can be done it can be done. Defend it or ask for a patch. Or scout it. People who cry cheese sound like IdrAs mom or something. :-P
0 harvesters, 2700 minerals per minute. Mules are totally balanced!
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
April 10 2011 19:30 GMT
#1384
On April 11 2011 04:29 Nelson wrote:
it's me or that game is not live? it's a replay

everybody knows it - I can still enjoy watching the games since i dont know the scores.
keep it deep! @zulison
BlazingInferno
Profile Joined November 2010
India272 Posts
April 10 2011 19:30 GMT
#1385
On April 11 2011 04:27 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:25 Rareware wrote:
On April 11 2011 04:23 vict1019 wrote:
On April 11 2011 04:22 Beyonder wrote:
Stop the whining about Adel's macro. A protoss has to warp units in 10 at a time, meaning that you bank over 1k if you sync the warping if units, please realise that.

Just enjoy the games, its not that hard... Djeesh.


If you chrono boost and macro really well then they shouldn't all be timed exactly the same.


It makes more sense to time your units at the same time instead of having them come at random.


This again.

You can't queue units on warp gates. If you have them come in at random you have to constantly be checking your warp gates for when they cool down, which isn't efficient use of APM. And since most Protoss players build several warp gates at once, they are synched up by default so you'd have to actually chrono boost them to separate the cooldowns. But Chrono boosts are better saved on Colossi.


Yeah, I am no high-level player but I do play P and these are the basics of playing Protoss. So I am really surprised at everyone commenting on it. I am pretty sure that they are not Protoss players for starters and are talking about something that they have no idea about.
starcraft2leverage
Profile Joined October 2010
United States207 Posts
April 10 2011 19:30 GMT
#1386
On April 11 2011 04:27 Duoma wrote:
A bit confused about how qxc lost that game... sure he was on 2 bases for a few minutes longer than adel, but he was sniping collossi left and right. Were the drop not very cost effective? frustrating game to watch just because adel really didn't do much anything until he decided to a-move into qxc's base.

Seems like qxc kind of killed himself.


One collosus is cheaper than a medivac + 4 marauders, it's not a cost efficient trade. Only reason it would be effective is if QXC didn't make the expensive vikings/starport and just kept the collosus count low with drops and made more barracks unit to overpower the protoss ground army.
RoundEye
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4 Posts
April 10 2011 19:30 GMT
#1387
On April 11 2011 04:27 starcraft2leverage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:22 Beyonder wrote:
Stop the whining about Adel's macro. A protoss has to warp units in 10 at a time, meaning that you bank over 1k if you sync the warping if units, please realise that.

Just enjoy the games, its not that hard... Djeesh.


^this x 100000

For stalkers for example 750 minerals 300 gas for one 6 gate warp-in. Plus every warp-in is 1.5 pylons worth of supply so that's another 200 minerals you have to throw down right after to be ready for the next wave of warp-ins.

Do people even play this game?


Did you even watch the games? He's not floating 1k minerals at 6 gates, he's floating OVER 1k minerals at 3 gates at the beginning of the game.
Period.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 10 2011 19:30 GMT
#1388
On April 11 2011 04:28 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:27 MoonBear wrote:
Match Point!

Match 5:GSL`Tal'Darim Altar
[image loading] (T)FXO.qxc 2 vs 2 [image loading] (P)Mill.Adelscott

(T)FXO.qxc spawns as the Red Terran @5
(P)Mill.Adelscott spawns as the Blue Protoss @1

2:00
QXC with 12-rax, Adel with a 12-gate, 15-gas.

4:00
Adel with 1-gate-core, nothing special so far. QXC with 1-techlab rax, 1-reactor-rax. Getting conc-shells.

Adel takes his natural at 30 supply, then drops 2 gates. Warpgate tech is on the way. He only has 1 stalker, 1 zealot, 1 sentry.

4 marines, 1 marauder move out.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1389
On April 11 2011 04:22 Beyonder wrote:
Stop the whining about Adel's macro. A protoss has to warp units in 10 at a time, meaning that you bank over 1k if you sync the warping if units, please realise that.

Just enjoy the games, its not that hard... Djeesh.


You realize that every race works this way right? The matter of them all syncing up means that they were out of usage.

Zerg have to use larva as they pop or they float, terrans have to make more units when the old ones finish (yes they can queue but that puts them behind because they don't have enough unit producing structures). Every race won't be floating minerals if they are macroing effectively, and protoss even have an icon in the bottom right for when the warpgates can be used and aren't on cooldown
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1390
dunno what qxc is doing there. this never works
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Ydriel
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy516 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1391
Bunker rush...wow. qxc never fails to entertain
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GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1392
Well that was quick.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 19:32:43
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1393
On April 11 2011 04:26 SkytoM wrote:
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On April 11 2011 04:24 Finrod1 wrote:
Game1: qxz dies due too his early pressure.
Game2: qxz wins because of his offracks and would have lost if it would have been scouted
Game3: qxz wins with a 1-1-1 cloak banshee build and would have lost if it would have been scouted.
Game4: qxz wants to play a straight up game and looses clearly....


This!

I am really not impressed by qxc at all. guys, get real. all he does is drops and he is good at multitasking. but there is more to it in this game! Adelscotts timings and bos clearly better !


I'm gonna disagree on games 3 and 4. QXC's cloaked banshee build didn't set him that far ahead. By the time the first 2 banshees were finished harassing qxc was just landing his natural while adel already had 3 bases up. The way adel dealt with the banshees minutes after they were revealed was just bad. It was hardly a build order win.

Game 4 was pretty close. Adel got in a good position, having 3 bases and collosus out in good numbers while qxc was on 2 base, and qxc's drop harass and constantly sniping collosus did pretty well to put him back in the game. It was still close until that final medivac drop where qxc lost 3 medivacs worth of units for almost nothing. Playing anything vP is just more forgiving for the toss, and QXCs playstyle this game (dropping oriented) is focused on slowly gaining minute advantages, hence the playstyle itself is already unforgiving. Hence a key mistake makes the entire game look far more one sided than it actually was.
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scouting overlord
Profile Joined April 2011
120 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1394
convincing defence from adel
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1395
Adel miles and miles ahead now
SooYoung-Noona!
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1396
Hot_Bid please turn on the production tab.
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.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1397
Nice defense by Adel.
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
ChatimentZ
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium227 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1398
oh snap
sup son
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1399
Adelscott looking really good... Hope qxc can pull it off 1 base behind
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 19:32:23
April 10 2011 19:31 GMT
#1400
On April 11 2011 04:29 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:28 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Anyone feel that Adel Scott is slowly slowly getting better each game lol?

hes getting better BitByBit

i c wat u did thar
bad attack by qxc puts him behind i think
edit: yeah i forgot to look at the supplies, AS is ahead by a lot
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