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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 10 2011 19:26 GMT
#1341
On April 11 2011 04:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Am I the only one who saw that qxc scanned the huge army outside his base and then decided to load half his army into medivacs and fly them away? Am I wrong in saying that inexplicable decision assured him the loss?


im sure he did it because he expected there would be no units back at adels base to defend the drop
ChatimentZ
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium227 Posts
April 10 2011 19:26 GMT
#1342
Hey all.. at least we have more than 3x5min games :D
sup son
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
April 10 2011 19:26 GMT
#1343
qxc plays rly bad... he can only if if he gets a huge build order lead, kind of lame player dont like him at all
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tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 19:27:10
April 10 2011 19:26 GMT
#1344
On April 11 2011 04:23 vict1019 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:22 Beyonder wrote:
Stop the whining about Adel's macro. A protoss has to warp units in 10 at a time, meaning that you bank over 1k if you sync the warping if units, please realise that.

Just enjoy the games, its not that hard... Djeesh.


If you chrono boost and macro really well then they shouldn't all be timed exactly the same.

That's not a particularly good use of the warp-in mechanic though. Part of the advantage of warp-in is that you can swing your gateway unit comp by 10+ units at a time.
My vanity is justified
SKaREO
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada58 Posts
April 10 2011 19:26 GMT
#1345
Stream is too laggy to watch. All other streams are running fine though, I though maybe it was on my end. Hmm... do hope you solve this issue. Didn't have this problem last week.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1346
Match Point!

Match 5:GSL`Tal'Darim Altar
[image loading] (T)FXO.qxc 2 vs 2 [image loading] (P)Mill.Adelscott

(T)FXO.qxc spawns as the Red Terran @5
(P)Mill.Adelscott spawns as the Blue Protoss @1
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 19:27:25
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1347
well, it's easy to say 1 thing - winner of the whole tourney is almost certainly not playing right now -.-

*waiting for kas-nada
No carpal tunnel no skill
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1348
Liked the idea of QXC's drops...but he picked the wrong bases to drop! He should have dropped the main or the 3rd base...
BombaySensei
Profile Joined March 2011
United States282 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1349
On April 11 2011 04:24 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:23 scouting overlord wrote:
On April 11 2011 04:22 ihavetofartosis wrote:
Sad to see a player play sooo well and still lose...

QXC should've expanded earlier


i don't think qxc played significantly better than adel, not enough to 'deserve' the win



if we count obvious mistakes adel def leads ( he lost like 6 collosus for no reason over the game). but overall youre right in that game ~

He lost the colossi, but he also killed the medivacs, vikings, and marauders, so Adel came out ahead.
EE-God, our Dono and Savior (also our sensei)
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 19:27:31
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1350
On April 11 2011 04:22 Alou wrote:
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On April 11 2011 04:22 whiterabbit wrote:
Would be funny if Adelscott advances to Ro8 after 20 pages of people flaming his playstyle. :D


He's a good player, but he has some issue keeping his macro up as the game goes on. Nothing mass games can't fix. Either of these players in the RO8 would be great. People take their complaining to a grand level in these threads :/


Hey, I know he is good player, every player who qualified for TSL has to be good and I am super enjoying today's games. Just found it funny and had to comment on that Adelscott isn't far from advancing to next round after so much complaining in this topic. Grand level of overreacted complaining, indeed.

Stop the whining and enjoy the games. Be happy!


NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
starcraft2leverage
Profile Joined October 2010
United States207 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1351
On April 11 2011 04:22 Beyonder wrote:
Stop the whining about Adel's macro. A protoss has to warp units in 10 at a time, meaning that you bank over 1k if you sync the warping if units, please realise that.

Just enjoy the games, its not that hard... Djeesh.


^this x 100000

For stalkers for example 750 minerals 300 gas for one 6 gate warp-in. Plus every warp-in is 1.5 pylons worth of supply so that's another 200 minerals you have to throw down right after to be ready for the next wave of warp-ins.

Do people even play this game?
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1352
On April 11 2011 04:23 vict1019 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:22 Beyonder wrote:
Stop the whining about Adel's macro. A protoss has to warp units in 10 at a time, meaning that you bank over 1k if you sync the warping if units, please realise that.

Just enjoy the games, its not that hard... Djeesh.


If you chrono boost and macro really well then they shouldn't all be timed exactly the same.

Everyone tries to sync their gates. It's a very very poor use of your time to be constantly warping in.
ppont
Profile Joined July 2010
66 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1353
This map should be better for qxc; more than one drop route and wide areas in the middle for better mmm micro.
Duoma
Profile Joined March 2011
United States396 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1354
A bit confused about how qxc lost that game... sure he was on 2 bases for a few minutes longer than adel, but he was sniping collossi left and right. Were the drop not very cost effective? frustrating game to watch just because adel really didn't do much anything until he decided to a-move into qxc's base.

Seems like qxc kind of killed himself.
"I have stared a horse in the eyes.... there is only black... only darkness..."
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 19:29:41
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1355
On April 11 2011 04:25 Rareware wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 04:23 vict1019 wrote:
On April 11 2011 04:22 Beyonder wrote:
Stop the whining about Adel's macro. A protoss has to warp units in 10 at a time, meaning that you bank over 1k if you sync the warping if units, please realise that.

Just enjoy the games, its not that hard... Djeesh.


If you chrono boost and macro really well then they shouldn't all be timed exactly the same.


It makes more sense to time your units at the same time instead of having them come at random.


This again.

You can't queue units on warp gates. If you have them come in at random you have to constantly be checking your warp gates for when they cool down, which isn't efficient use of APM. And since most Protoss players build several warp gates at once, they are synched up by default so you'd have to actually chrono boost them to separate the cooldowns. But chronos are better used on colossi and upgrades.
Nomadic
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom312 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1356
Adel topright qxc bot right
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
April 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#1357
It's very hard to tell when sacrificing units to snipe Colossi is worth it. I guess qxc miscalculated a bit with the trade-offs.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Lanker
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom17 Posts
April 10 2011 19:28 GMT
#1358
Im simply not impressed by Adelscott's play. He lost faaaar too many colossus, his macro is rather bad (1k+ minerals at various points in the game) and his micro+multitasking is pretty mediocre. Compare him to the best protosses such as MC, San and HuK and he seems like a silver-league player.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 10 2011 19:28 GMT
#1359
On April 11 2011 04:27 MoonBear wrote:
Match Point!

Match 5:GSL`Tal'Darim Altar
[image loading] (T)FXO.qxc 2 vs 2 [image loading] (P)Mill.Adelscott

(T)FXO.qxc spawns as the Red Terran @5
(P)Mill.Adelscott spawns as the Blue Protoss @1

2:00
QXC with 12-rax, Adel with a 12-gate, 15-gas.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
April 10 2011 19:28 GMT
#1360
I don't know who's the better player. But QXC's play is soooooooo much more entertaining to watch.

Adelscotts play kinda just feels like Probe-Nexus-Probe - Mass Gateway -> Attack and crush inferior army xd.
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
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