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On April 05 2011 15:13 jamster1211 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 14:50 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
the team league is GSTL style, sorry I don't know the BW pro league formats
Each set of the bo5 or bo7, the coach will pick 1 player to go up. In the first set, neither side knows the starting player. The winner of the first set stays, while the loser of the first set is eliminated and cannot play for the rest of the bo5 or bo7. You keep playing until you lose to another player. The first to 3 set wins or 4 set wins, wins the Team Match.
Don't worry seniors, there will be a mini season or team league tournament before you graduate! and lots of individual 1v1 tournaments too ofc, and all the showmatches you want to schedule not really my place but just some ideas don't you think the gstl format will be unfair for some of the not as good players? like some ppl had said before, not everyone is going to be a diamond+ player and most people will just want to have fun with that being said, winners league is the same as gstl, basically where the winner goes on to the next set and keeps playing until he loses however, this would be bad for players if one particularly strong player participates, as not only will the other team basically get all-killed (if they arent that good) but then players on their own team won't be able to participate pro-league basically works like this: each team will put a different player for each set, this way everyone (except perhaps for later sets) will be able to play, and there won't just be one dominating player
I agree with many of these points. You may want to reconsider your format so that it aligns with the goals of the league.
While a GSTL/Winner's League format might work for pros, a high school lineup is almost guaranteed to have a much wider range of skill. If one strong player all-kills every round, his teammates might not get to experience the tournament, and it may give an unfair advantage to teams who happen to have one professional level player who is unlikely to lose many games.
The KOTH format seems to discourage a lot of what could make a high school league fun, such as recruiting school friends to train and deepen the line-up. It would turn many otherwise close matches into complete stomps.
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slyderturtle
The skill level won't be that high. On average there will be 1 diamond, and a few players below that level, perhaps even a bronze or silver, on an average of 5 players per school team, with the exception of foreign players. After all, Diamond only consists of 20% of the 1v1 ladder, and there aren't that many starcraft players per school to start with. There will be likely chance each team match that lower level players will face lower level players. Also, you can decide who to challenge for your showmatch, meaning lower level players can have fair match-ups, and if they play exclusively showmatches, then their rating will be based entirely on how they do in showmatches rather than actual skill.
So, don't worry! 
@jamster1211
thank you for your feedback and we will consider the proleague format
for now though, it will be winner's league format
It won't be quite too unfair for lower league players, because this way they too will be valuable unless the team is huge and can fill up all 5 or 7 sets with good players.
Then again, a school team with few but good players will have a more fair chance.
True, you mean if a team all-kills for example 4-0 in a bo7 then some people are left out right? But then again, if we do Proleague format, then that means each team will have to have a minimum number of players, since I'm guessing each player can only play one match?
The bad players will still have the individual showmatches and if they want to, the 1v1 tournaments. Because the "showmatches" will give straight points, a players' rating playing only showmatches will show only his success in showmatches, aka against people similar to his skill level. This way, a master level player losing a lot of showmatches due to not being prepared may be rated lower than an improving bronze player who was well focused and prepared for his showmatch and won more matches.
Again, thanks for your feedback and we will consider the Proleague format.
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haha thanks for considering my ideas
oh right i forgot to mention
the huge part of the proleague format is the ace match
basically, normally it would be one player per set, but once it reaches the 7th set, teams are allowed to send any player (allowed to repeat, and usually their best player) out to decide the outcome
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also the idea is that coaches need to think, which players are good on what maps, what races are good on what maps, who will the other team send out, etc, and that way they can plan things out as well, this way they could perform "snipes" and whatnot adding to some of the team strategy
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@jamster1211
The HSL was actually going to do that, except with 4 sets (or so?) and 1 match was a 2v2 (Collegiate Starleague format basically), but we saw the GSTL and how epic it was and really liked the kind of strategy it had and the excitement of having an all-kill. But there are some disadvantages to it that we didn't look into too much...
but we will again consider it, thank you
Perhaps there can be a way where we can implement both... may be we can have "showmatch" for Team Rating where it is Winner/GSTL format, while the main Team League will be in Proleague? What do you guys think? Me and STAxis will have to discuss this.
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Thanks for the reply I'm glad you're so active in replying. Anyways, I agree with jamster in that better players might get a lot more playing time, but I think that maybe once you have this up and going you could have maybe a tournament with only lower ranked individually players for more experience for them. Just a suggestion, loving it
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
....... I can't believe this....
I am so effing stoked for this....
T-T (tears of joy)
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Monte Vista High School - Danville, CA
Nigel Nixon - nigel dot nixon at gmail dot com
CarnagE.335 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/zerg-big.gif)
RifT.147 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/protoss-big.gif)
CTRLjh.867
nliu.108 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/terran-big.gif)
CrazedSloth.686
YEAHitsangus.338
EoN.432
Froadac.469 (foreign)
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heres our team for now, ill update once others start joining:
International Bilingual School at Hsin-Chu, Taiwan
team name: TBD
James Moh- jamster1211@gmail.com
Crispycow.296
Pedostalker.462
RichDaddy.513
protosoul.787
assasindonky.624
bOnerBEEf.257
GreatChi.930
Chunmaster.307
PaNda.898
Maddoctor.203
Matt.2569 (dunno why his code is 4 digits but its legit)
Archaniel.321
is it okay if some players random or offrace?
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Haha, Pokebunny should play in it and just win it for whatever team he were to play for! :D
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Sweet idea, I'd love to play but I'm playing from Australia and don't know anyone in my school that plays. D:
Sounds like it'd be so much fun though!
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Pokebunny played in our tournament a couple of times and completely destroyed everyone lol, I don't think he lost a single game ^^
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As my senior year ends this starts D:
Best of luck with this project, it looks fucking awesome, great idea.
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Ill just put myself out there 3.8 masters toss last season, about 500 now. Ill see if i can make a team... But if someone needs me pm
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no immortalness plz  at least give our teams a fighting Chance :'(
+ they rape roaches
lolololol, im so funny
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Too bad everyone in my school is bronze t.t
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Hey guys! I'm one of the admins for www.cstarleague.com, the Collegiate Starleague.
You should send us an email at cstarleague@gmail.com about all of this stuff. I can't guarantee anything but it's possible we may be able to help you out =).
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Oh, its GSTL format?
Well here's my team then:
Hunter College High School (New York, NY)
Team Name: Can You Beat Me?
(Real Team Name: Hunter Hawks)
Nick Taber - pokebunny@vtgaming.net
Roster:
VTPokebunny.787
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... just kidding.
Kevin.???
General.901
Wirefleece.???
Kajabla.240
Tyrant.405
Dusty.578
FlyBye.604
Roster work in progress 
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Okay so finding people at western canada highschool is harder than it seems. If anyone from western reads this thread gimme a PM if I don't already find you around somewhere.
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@Pokebunny
haha
@sallydesu
it's an honor to be recognized by the CSL, thank you for the offer
@greatchi
yes u r indeed
@Biigfoot
we will get started before the year ends, seniors can play
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have you considered 2v2?
thats all me and my buddies like to play, and i bet lots of other noobies prefer 2v2 to 1v1
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