EPT[MLG] Dallas Day 1 - Page 494
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zasda
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aLuLz
Germany175 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
I fear 2 base vs 2 base much more then 3 base vs 5 base in PvZ, with larvae inject and a practical cap of about 80 drones in this game there is hardly any use to having more then 3 running bases. | ||
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Illusionnist
Ireland97 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 02 2011 20:44 aLuLz wrote: Where is Athene, the pro? He quit SC2 for LoL | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On April 02 2011 20:40 syllogism wrote: 4 times in GSL is lackluster results? In that case there are only 2 or 3 zergs in the world with actual results. The problem is protoss players have finally figured out how to play PvZ. Considering that IdrA has been a favorite in pretty much every tournament he's participated in (bar GSL) and where he's been placing, yeah, I'd say that's pretty lackluster. I can't even see what you're getting at. He was considered to be the best Zerg in the world at release, and it looked like he was. Not really the case anymore. As I said earlier, I hope he does well this time around. Really love watching him play when he really gets in the zone. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
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zeru
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 02 2011 20:57 zeru wrote: He's a professional troll, he never played SC2, it was someone else that he paid (people say kiwikaki). Of course he wasn't going to show up at mlg. On a sidenote im VERY impressed with grubby. idk about paying afaik, Kiwi and him are friends and he helped him out with a software for poker, or so i heard at least. Btw the first games released from "Athenewins" screamed from 2 miles away that it's Kiwikaki playing almost nobody used MS but Kiwi at that time | ||
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Azza
China650 Posts
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kwondoo
Netherlands100 Posts
atleast grubby is getting for this tourney | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On April 02 2011 20:40 syllogism wrote: 4 times in GSL is lackluster results? In that case there are only 2 or 3 zergs in the world with actual results. Well there were only 2 or 3 Zergs in the world that were actually good players (for that level) until some 5-6 months ago. CheckPrime was considered to be one of, if not the, best Zerg at the time, and that tells you everything. Being 4 times in GSL isn't an achievement for a top player. It's an achievement for an up-and-coming top player. It would be an achievement for HuK for example. For a touted "one of the best players in the world", losing to LotzePrimes of the world only due to blatant inability to scout and adapt is just bad. It just is. Out of his 4 times in the GSL, he's only been in RO8 once and it's his highest, and even that's only borderline success for a top player. Yes there are a lot of top players who didn't do a lot better than Idra, but do you think they consider their results to be "good" and their runs to be "successful" if they get knocked out in ro32/16? No top player is going to consider that to be anything more than a lackluster result. Idra won one MLG and that's pretty much all he did. | ||
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kwondoo
Netherlands100 Posts
On April 02 2011 21:00 Azza wrote: I really want Grubby to win. Doing well so far, but not sure how good he actually is at sc2. well, he won vs inca so that says something :D | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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Oldini
Finland21 Posts
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Derrida
2885 Posts
How is the tournament going to proceed? We have 4 groups, then we have 4 or 8 (?) people emerging from open brackets to go into the groups? How is this going to develop? Top 2-4 to advance from group play into Ro8 or Ro16? etc. Thanks. | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
There were only 2 or 3 Zergs in the world that were actually good (for that level) some 5-6 months age. Being 4 times in GSL isn't an achievement for a top player. It's an achievement for an up-and-coming top player. It would be an achievement for HuK for example. For a touted "one of the best players in the world", losing to LotzePrimes of the world only due to blatant inability to scout and adapt is just bad. It just is. Out of his 4 times in the GSL, he's only been in RO8 once and it's his highest, and even that's only borderline success for a top player. Yes there are a lot of top players who didn't do a lot better than Idra, but do you think they consider their results to be "good" and their runs to be "successful" if they get knocked out in ro32/16? No top player is going to consider that to be anything more than a lackluster result. Idra won one MLG and that's pretty much all he did. Pretty much everything about this is wrong, not even sure how to start responding. I guess to me, seeing how hard it has been for ANY foreign player to get into Code S, much less stay there for 4 seasons is what makes it impressive. Idra with no team house or set practice partners makes all GSLs... in a game that is currently as volatile as SC2 where the best players in world are what, 60% on the ladder? That is really impressive. There is just to much talent, and the difference between winning and losing to thin that I think what he did was super impressive, and I think people don't give enough credit. It is also what makes what MC did that much more impressive with 2 in a row as well. Look at this MLG bracket, it is loaded. There are 20 people in there that if they won I wouldn't be surprised. Right now, you aren't going to see one player dominate the scene, so when a player can be consistently good, to me that is what I'll consider great in this game because it is so easy to just make a mistake and be gone in a heartbeat. Look at the players getting knocked down to Code A. I'm just thinking about what I consider success and not in SC2. Simply playing for a living you've already achieved some level of success. If you don't like his "cockiness" or "BM" that's fine, but pretty crazy to not look at his body of work and say it is successful when there is only a small handful of foreign players that you could compare it to, and not many Koreans either. Keep in mind he hasn't played a lot of tournaments either, it has been mostly GSL with 2 MLGs and a few others sprinkled in. | ||
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