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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 02 2011 12:49 GMT
#9901
Ret D:
Nony D:
Kiwi :D
iNcontroL :D
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 13:02:14
April 02 2011 12:52 GMT
#9902
On April 02 2011 21:17 syllogism wrote:
So you are presuming they are failing not because they are zerg, but because they are bad. I guess all the zerg players are just bad then, according to you. Very reasonable.


Can you honestly look at Leenock (other than 1 series), Kyrix, Zenio and Idra and see something in their play that would be worthy of a RO4 GSL? If you can, I'm going to have to call you biased. Sure they didn't have a fluke result like some players or an undeserved fluke result like... well, just Rain. But even if everything was right and perfect in the world of SC2, those players are not a RO4 material, much less a consistent top player material.

Losira may not have a great BW past, but my point about him was that he's showing some great play NOW and having higher quality showings than other Zerg players NOW. While most of the others aren't really playing that well now, NOR do they have the history or background that would indicate they have some skill that they're unable to show because of, I'm assuming, imbalance.

If we're talking about foreigner scene, best foreign Zergs compete in Korea (or at least did until very recently) where the skill bar is higher and they can't get to the top of it. Ret has won the first big European tournament he attended. Idra won an MLG. Moonglade won regional IEM. Dimaga doesn't even play in big live events. So it's pretty much ONLY Morrow left without a big tournament title as Zerg (and he's had reasonable success otherwise). What more success do you want, and who do you think deserves it exactly (except Morrow)?

On April 02 2011 21:21 Primadog wrote:
Despite blatant trolling, I'll play along. There is a grand total of 23 players that has thus far placed 8th or higher in one or more GSL;
+ Show Spoiler +

oGsMC
IMNesTea
MarineKingPrime
TSL_Fruitdealer
IMMvp
EDIdra
HongUnPrime
LiquidJinro
oGsNada
NEXGenius
TSL_Trickster
oGsZenio
oGsEnsnare
ST_Rainbow
MakaPrime
ST_July
SlayerSBoxer
oGsInca
sanZenith
TSL_Rain
SCfOu
anyproPrime
FOXLyn


and there is a grand total 22 players that placed in four or more GSL.
+ Show Spoiler +

oGsMC
IMNesTea
MarineKingPrime
TSL_FruitDealer
IMMvp
EGIdra
HongUnPrime
NEXGenius
CheckPrime
oGsZenio
oGsEnsnare
ST_Rainbow
MakaPrime
SlayerSBoxer
oGsInca
KyrixZenith
sanZenith
TSL_Clide
oGsTheWind
ChoyafOu
PoltPrime
oGsHyperdub
anyproPrime


Talin has standards! There's almost two dozen players in the whole world with similar stats to IdrA! Obviously, then, IdrA is not a world-class, top player. To be bestowed the title of "Top Player" by Talim, IdrA has gotta get better stats than that! It's not like IdrA is the only one ever to improved his standing in every GSL, oGsMC did also, and that's two too many players!


So there's like 20 players in a Starcraft 2 scene in its infancy with similar "success" after only 5 GSL tournaments. What's your point, that everyone on that list is a world class player? Don't be silly.

Some of the other names on your lists include: choya, Polt, TheWind, Check and Maka. If you're calling them world class players, I don't think it's my standards that are questionable here, or my understanding of the term "world class".

If TL had a Power Rank for SC2, it would be hard to fill it up with 10 people each month (which I'm assuming is one of the reasons why it doesn't exist yet). There's like 5 world class players in SC2, a couple of up-and-coming top players that are here to stay and not on a fluke run, and it ends there.
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
April 02 2011 12:59 GMT
#9903
On April 02 2011 21:39 enliveee wrote:
Is IdrA still in?

Yes.
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 13:08:48
April 02 2011 13:04 GMT
#9904
There's about two dozen players who either ranked 8th or higher or placed in four or more GSLs. Here's the 16 players that done both:

oGsMC
IMNesTea
MarineKingPrime
TSL_Fruitdealer
IMMvp
EGIdra
HongUnPrime
NEXGenius
oGsZenio
oGsEnsnare
ST_Rainbow
MakaPrime
SlayerSBoxer
oGsInca
sanZenith
anyproPrime

I guess I should apologize to Talin, since there's only enough room for five TOP PLAYER in his POV.
Thank God and gunrun.
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
April 02 2011 13:07 GMT
#9905
On April 02 2011 22:04 Primadog wrote:
There's about two dozen players who either ranked 8th or higher or placed in four or more GSLs. Here's the 16 players that done both:

oGsMC
IMNesTea
MarineKingPrime
TSL_Fruitdealer
IMMvp
EDIdra
HongUnPrime
NEXGenius
oGsZenio
oGsEnsnare
ST_Rainbow
MakaPrime
SlayerSBoxer
oGsInca
sanZenith
anyproPrime

I guess I should apologize to Talin, since there's only enough room for five TOP PLAYER in his POV.

Whoa whoa, what team is ED?
oriGinal Mixers '99 - www.smiteam.net
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 02 2011 13:09 GMT
#9906
On April 02 2011 22:07 oGm`REM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 22:04 Primadog wrote:
There's about two dozen players who either ranked 8th or higher or placed in four or more GSLs. Here's the 16 players that done both:

oGsMC
IMNesTea
MarineKingPrime
TSL_Fruitdealer
IMMvp
EDIdra
HongUnPrime
NEXGenius
oGsZenio
oGsEnsnare
ST_Rainbow
MakaPrime
SlayerSBoxer
oGsInca
sanZenith
anyproPrime

I guess I should apologize to Talin, since there's only enough room for five TOP PLAYER in his POV.

Whoa whoa, what team is ED?


It has been a long day working stats.
Thank God and gunrun.
daffodil
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia109 Posts
April 02 2011 13:09 GMT
#9907
On April 02 2011 22:07 oGm`REM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 22:04 Primadog wrote:
There's about two dozen players who either ranked 8th or higher or placed in four or more GSLs. Here's the 16 players that done both:

oGsMC
IMNesTea
MarineKingPrime
TSL_Fruitdealer
IMMvp
EDIdra
HongUnPrime
NEXGenius
oGsZenio
oGsEnsnare
ST_Rainbow
MakaPrime
SlayerSBoxer
oGsInca
sanZenith
anyproPrime

I guess I should apologize to Talin, since there's only enough room for five TOP PLAYER in his POV.

Whoa whoa, what team is ED?


evil dumbasses
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
April 02 2011 13:11 GMT
#9908
On April 02 2011 22:09 ceciljacobs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 22:07 oGm`REM wrote:
On April 02 2011 22:04 Primadog wrote:
There's about two dozen players who either ranked 8th or higher or placed in four or more GSLs. Here's the 16 players that done both:

oGsMC
IMNesTea
MarineKingPrime
TSL_Fruitdealer
IMMvp
EDIdra
HongUnPrime
NEXGenius
oGsZenio
oGsEnsnare
ST_Rainbow
MakaPrime
SlayerSBoxer
oGsInca
sanZenith
anyproPrime

I guess I should apologize to Talin, since there's only enough room for five TOP PLAYER in his POV.

Whoa whoa, what team is ED?


evil dumbasses

Hey now, hey now.. that's not very nice.
Anyway! 2 more hours til' day 2! wooo.
oriGinal Mixers '99 - www.smiteam.net
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
April 02 2011 13:11 GMT
#9909
Is it possible to update the OP so we know who is in and out, or what games have been played? The stream isn't the best for me and timezones aren't the best
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 13:15:46
April 02 2011 13:13 GMT
#9910
Delete.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 13:16:00
April 02 2011 13:15 GMT
#9911
On April 02 2011 22:11 Kar98 wrote:
Is it possible to update the OP so we know who is in and out, or what games have been played? The stream isn't the best for me and timezones aren't the best

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/starcraft-2-day-1-recap-2

On April 02 2011 21:39 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 21:32 Benjef wrote:
Grubby and HuK stand a very good chance to make it out of the Open brackets. Going to be hard for them tbh, they play their Open round 5 match, to get into top 4 (I'm not sure if they play even more games to sort seeding after that) and then they have to play another 4 Bo3s against their group to get seeded. Thats going to take an awful lot of energy out of the players.

Best of luck to the players who make it out of the open!


The worst case scenario is after playing 6 sets tomorrow, they placed last in their group and have to get up early Sunday and start playing at 10AM for a potential of 8 more sets.


Thats a lot of games to play over the entire weekend including the 4 they played on friday. I would mad impressed if someone does that at one of these MLG events and wins it all.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
April 02 2011 13:16 GMT
#9912
wow Liquid got very much beaten up on day 1.. I hope they can recover for the bracket :s
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
April 02 2011 13:17 GMT
#9913
so in how many hours is it going live again? :o
Hello=)
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
April 02 2011 13:18 GMT
#9914
On April 02 2011 22:17 ParasitJonte wrote:
so in how many hours is it going live again? :o

1h 45m until MLG Day 2.
oriGinal Mixers '99 - www.smiteam.net
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 02 2011 13:19 GMT
#9915
On April 02 2011 22:17 ParasitJonte wrote:
so in how many hours is it going live again? :o


3h 43m MLG Dallas - Day 2 is when they start broadcasting but games resume earlier than that I believe. They may like they have in the past have the Open bracket final matches streamed and commentated but I'm not too sure. If that is the case then play resumes in an Hour and 45 minutes ish I believe.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 02 2011 13:19 GMT
#9916
No programing until 12PM local time, or 3h 40min from now
Thank God and gunrun.
NoXious90
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom160 Posts
April 02 2011 13:20 GMT
#9917
did athene attend/get smashed?
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
April 02 2011 13:22 GMT
#9918
On April 02 2011 22:20 NoXious90 wrote:
did athene attend/get smashed?

AtheneWins was a noshow.. as anticipated.
oriGinal Mixers '99 - www.smiteam.net
imnotwearingpants
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
April 02 2011 13:29 GMT
#9919
No MLG day LR thread yet. Ret has corruptors, broods, and infestors, but Select cleans it up.
World War 1 was started by the assasination of R2-D2
imnotwearingpants
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
April 02 2011 13:31 GMT
#9920
Ret sends drones against tanks & thors; shortly GGs thereafter.
World War 1 was started by the assasination of R2-D2
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