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Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
April 02 2011 03:12 GMT
#7641
Kind of a weird spot for ret to take a 4th.
LDdota
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1465 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 03:13:15
April 02 2011 03:12 GMT
#7642
On April 02 2011 12:10 Dawski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 12:09 relyt wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:07 Dawski wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:06 IzieBoy wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:04 Dawski wrote:
i dont understand terrans want to cheese on ladder, how does doing that build on ladder make you any better? i see most zergs and tosses are focussed on improving their mechanics, zergs more-so but ive seen tosses lately really trying to improve forge first builds with unique styles. while terrans seem to have a loving for cheesing the shit out of everything and feeling bad-ass


the T player merely placed early pressure and it worked. it was up to T to make something happen by cutting scvs and OC. if Z had defended it well, as he should have. it would be the end for T.


i wasnt talking to select, i was talkign to all the terrans on here going "wow im going to do this on ladder now" and "wow lets cheese harder now that they nerfed it" focus on getting better ffs and stop wasting macro players time on ladder

you do know its possible to do different builds every game right? Cheesing once on ladder does not mean you cheese every game.


How does that change the fact that it doesnt improve your game AT ALL, which is basically the point of laddering in starcraft 2. i dont think you understood what i meant


haha because i'm sure anyone could execute select's attack with the timings, micro, building placement, & unit control that he exhibited.. yeah right. that takes a ton of skill to pull off, not to mention the confidence to do it in a LAN tournament. just because a build doesn't involve late game macro doesn't mean that practicing it won't improve your game at all
PourLaGloire
Profile Joined February 2011
United States376 Posts
April 02 2011 03:12 GMT
#7643
Anyone else absolutely hate that there is no compression on the audio of this broadcast? When any of the casters get excited my eardrums bleed.
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
April 02 2011 03:13 GMT
#7644
On April 02 2011 12:11 mjnbowlgod wrote:
select will prob make top 4

he would be my bet to win, great player
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
mamuto
Profile Joined September 2010
United States88 Posts
April 02 2011 03:13 GMT
#7645
damn ret is ballin
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
April 02 2011 03:13 GMT
#7646
ret won the second game lol wow
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Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7647
On April 02 2011 12:11 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 12:10 Dawski wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:09 relyt wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:07 Dawski wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:06 IzieBoy wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:04 Dawski wrote:
i dont understand terrans want to cheese on ladder, how does doing that build on ladder make you any better? i see most zergs and tosses are focussed on improving their mechanics, zergs more-so but ive seen tosses lately really trying to improve forge first builds with unique styles. while terrans seem to have a loving for cheesing the shit out of everything and feeling bad-ass


the T player merely placed early pressure and it worked. it was up to T to make something happen by cutting scvs and OC. if Z had defended it well, as he should have. it would be the end for T.


i wasnt talking to select, i was talkign to all the terrans on here going "wow im going to do this on ladder now" and "wow lets cheese harder now that they nerfed it" focus on getting better ffs and stop wasting macro players time on ladder

you do know its possible to do different builds every game right? Cheesing once on ladder does not mean you cheese every game.


How does that change the fact that it doesnt improve your game AT ALL, which is basically the point of laddering in starcraft 2. i dont think you understood what i meant

It helps you execute it when you plan on doing it in a tournament just like this.


then do practice matches so you arnt showing it to the world making you further predictable which is what the other person is suggesting. and no, no one is going to remember that one game of you and me (no - name players) when you played in mid masters league. FOCUS ON GETTING BETTER ON LADDER (i understand if your a top playing but again you guys arnt understanding this is about mid masters-high diamond players who cheese on ladder)
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
Inflexion
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada560 Posts
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7648
On April 02 2011 12:08 udgnim wrote:
3 bunker rush on Shakuras has been before by some pro Terran many months ago and I can't believe that people still don't understand why Zerg hatch firsts against Terran

let's say a Terran wants to bunker rush and a Zerg chooses pool first, instead of having to deal with bunker pressure on the nat hatch now the Zerg has to deal with a contain at the bottom of their ramp

it doesn't matter if a Terran can't block off the ramp entirely. just having a completed bunker at the bottom screws up the Zerg so much. they have to devote so much early larva to take care of that bunker before they can finally put down a hatchery at the nat that they become really behind the Terran.


because if terran decides to 1rax expand or 2rax expand (which is WAY more common, espcially now with the bunker nerf and maps edited so you can't bunker block the base of zerg's ramp)

then a zerg will be playing from behind having not gone hatch first and made a bunch of useless lings

you play your percentages

in the recent global GSL tourney, and TSL, when was the last time you saw a successful bunker rush? maybe once or twice?

as a zerg, would you rather pool first 9/10 games and play at a disadvantage from the start for all those games OR would you hatch first 10/10 and maybe have 1 of those games you get bunker rushed (and that's not even the big a concern because good drone micro combined with a early scouting drone, which ret didn't send, can defend the nerfed bunker rush)
Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7649
Huk advances into the third round, beating DudeToss.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7650
1-1!

User was warned for this post
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46546 Posts
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7651
On April 02 2011 12:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 12:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 02 2011 12:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Game 2 is Metalopolis! Ret at 12, Select at 6.

Select going double hellions. Ret powering early on 2 bases. ~4:30


A roach or two pop out just in time to deter Select from harrassing Ret's natural. Ret has a few speedlings too. Getting lair and a third hatchery.

Tank out for Select, and he's getting his expo up. Starport up, and he's upping stim.

~8:00


Ret powering so hard, and his third is up. Spire going up, banelings morphing.

Select staying active around the map, but not poking... his upgrades aren't ready yet.

~11:00


Upgrades done for Select, timing push to third (mid left). Ret cleans up pretty easily though, even though he didn't have much of an army. 75 drones for Ret O.O Mutalisks out.

4th base for Ret at mid right main base. Wow.

Select's third- with PF.

~13:30


Select going hardcore Factories now, but Ret is getting a FIFTH BASE at his high yield O.O

Ret is mutalisk harrassing pretty well, containing Select. Greater spire going down.

Ret: 190 food
Select: 140 food

Ret wants to attack soon. So Many Banelings

~16:00
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GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 03:15:01
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7652
Infestors incoming. Going up against Ret in a macro game is completely suicide, which is probably why SelecT played like he did on Shakuras. That's how he eliminated IdrA from last MLG the way he did because it's hard ones it goes pass the mid game.
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XdtA
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 03:29:21
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7653
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Combine
Profile Joined July 2010
United States812 Posts
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7654
Ret coming back in full force, this is why you don't leave him alone.
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IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7655
it's time to just a-move the Z force into the tanks
Let's Do This! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 03:15:04
April 02 2011 03:14 GMT
#7656
Both Ret and Select are getting upgrades incredibly slowly.
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Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
April 02 2011 03:15 GMT
#7657
16 minute greater spire. Oh my god.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
April 02 2011 03:15 GMT
#7658
On April 02 2011 12:12 PourLaGloire wrote:
Anyone else absolutely hate that there is no compression on the audio of this broadcast? When any of the casters get excited my eardrums bleed.

Yeah, audio could be handled better in a lot of casts. The crowd doesn't have mics, no compression, I've heard de-essers giving casters lisps, all of it. It helps a lot to listen through speakers at a slightly lower level, headphones are murder though.
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
April 02 2011 03:15 GMT
#7659
Wow, hahaha. Great game.
geNis
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 03:15:33
April 02 2011 03:15 GMT
#7660
Any information on the Grubby vs Darkcell games?!!
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