On March 28 2011 22:42 Prostak wrote: Calling team non-korean team america make me laugh :D Why those dudes from USA always have to lie? They think they are the best in everything but true is they are crap in most of things, even nba is all black :D
So black people from USA aren't American?
Seriously Prostak. =)
BTW, we are best at most of the sports, we invented them and have a large talent pool. Nothing dishonest or elitist about that. Of course more global sports like futbol we aren't the best in, because we're too distracted by other sports. =)
The sports you are the best in the rest of the world mostly don't care about >_>
America has won the World Series for 108 years now >.>
On a side note this thread is now 2x more popular than NASL in such a short time, I'm kinda amazed. and man this was a really great day, hopefully the next series will have even more players.
World Series? Aren't the only teams involved all located in the USA, with ONE in Toronto. Doesn't seem very worldly.
you're not very good at recognizing jokes are you
It's surprising to find that an American being ignorant about sports outside of their country is just sarcasm.
I could just be biased from reading the OP of this thread originally having 'Team USA' on it when there actually aren't any US players.
See, American defensiveness is a vicious cycle of death. An American says a stupid thing, it gets generalized to the entirety of the American populace, an argument ensues wherein so much gets said that another stupid thing can't help but be said, which in turn causes further generalization, which in turn causes further defensiveness, which increases the likelihood of both further stupid things and run-on sentences, which in turn...
You get the point. I hate these sort of arguments, because I can't defend Artosis's dumb comment, but I can't at the same time endorse the annoying generalizations.
On March 28 2011 21:34 Termit wrote: Long hair = free person
mmh yeah!!!
that was probably because he crosses his legs like that in front of camera. I don't know about korea but that's kinda inappropriate in some cultures
Guys in Asian cultures cross their legs ALL the time.
Guys in swedish culture does as well... at least me.
guys in the indie scene maybe, otherwise it's more common that we dont
I don't know, I'm pretty much an average "Svensson" and I do it. Some like it some don't, I don't think it's confined to a certain group.
Yeah. We're not talking absolutes. Apparently, it happens. A lot more than some people on this thread think and it doesn't have to mean anything special.
... Crossing legs like how? How does this tell anything about a person??
Crossing legs is indeed more feminine body language, in American culture at least. There was this really cool book on Drag Kings - whose title I can't actually recall right now - that documents a woman's tale in trying to become a convincing Drag King. And she got all the physical appearances spot on; if you were to see a picture of her, you would have no idea she was born as a woman.
But she goes on to talk about how American males' (I suspect this is a wider trend, but I am far from certain) body language differed from her own to begin with. I mean, you have this, by all accounts, convincing drag king, but she sits with her legs crossed, and she attracts all manner of suspicion for this rather feminine gesture. She then concludes that masculine body language connotes taking up space with your legs - read, spread - and asserting one's dominance over your immediate area, and crossings one's legs and being rather compact and passive with one's space is culturally more feminine.
Not that it actually matters re: normative judgment; this isn't the 1950s, where anything but complete masculinity is frowned upon. I, as a male, do on occasion cross my legs as well. It's generally a more feminine gesture, but the bottom line is that anyone who gives a fuck is rather excessively judgmental. [/pedant]
If you watch any interview with a male movie star, chances are, they'll cross their legs. First, it takes the focus away from their crotch. Second, it makes them look more relaxed and casual. Third, it does not make them look less manly.
People in positions of power often cross their legs when they sit on a chair. Think CEOs, Chairmen or evil bad guys in movies.
Well, for one, a lot bad guys are portrayed to be feminine anyway. See Jafar from Aladdin. Scarecrow from Batman Begins. Scar from The Lion King. Not universally the case, but disproportionately so.
And I probably should have clarified what I was talking about when I meant crossing one's legs. I'm not talking about the sitting back and laying one's ankle on one's knee. That takes up space; consequently, socially masculine. I'm referring to the knee-on-knee folding that connotes much more passive body language and is consequently more feminine.
Or as a pretentious person I know calls it, paralinguistics. He needs to stop using that word. It's effing annoying.
On March 28 2011 21:34 Termit wrote: Long hair = free person
mmh yeah!!!
that was probably because he crosses his legs like that in front of camera. I don't know about korea but that's kinda inappropriate in some cultures
Guys in Asian cultures cross their legs ALL the time.
Guys in swedish culture does as well... at least me.
guys in the indie scene maybe, otherwise it's more common that we dont
I don't know, I'm pretty much an average "Svensson" and I do it. Some like it some don't, I don't think it's confined to a certain group.
Yeah. We're not talking absolutes. Apparently, it happens. A lot more than some people on this thread think and it doesn't have to mean anything special.
... Crossing legs like how? How does this tell anything about a person??
Crossing legs is indeed more feminine body language, in American culture at least. There was this really cool book on Drag Kings - whose title I can't actually recall right now - that documents a woman's tale in trying to become a convincing Drag King. And she got all the physical appearances spot on; if you were to see a picture of her, you would have no idea she was born as a woman.
But she goes on to talk about how American males' (I suspect this is a wider trend, but I am far from certain) body language differed from her own to begin with. I mean, you have this, by all accounts, convincing drag king, but she sits with her legs crossed, and she attracts all manner of suspicion for this rather feminine gesture. She then concludes that masculine body language connotes taking up space with your legs - read, spread - and asserting one's dominance over your immediate area, and crossings one's legs and being rather compact and passive with one's space is culturally more feminine.
Not that it actually matters re: normative judgment; this isn't the 1950s, where anything but complete masculinity is frowned upon. I, as a male, do on occasion cross my legs as well. It's generally a more feminine gesture, but the bottom line is that anyone who gives a fuck is rather excessively judgmental. [/pedant]
If you watch any interview with a male movie star, chances are, they'll cross their legs. First, it takes the focus away from their crotch. Second, it makes them look more relaxed and casual. Third, it does not make them look less manly.
People in positions of power often cross their legs when they sit on a chair. Think CEOs, Chairmen or evil bad guys in movies.
Crossing legs is not comfortable. It heats up your balls, the last thing on earth you want. You want your balls cold as ice. Also if you have some muscles in your legs, which most CEO's dont have, it just adds up the discomfort when you cross.
But hey, Im not judging, just stating it from my POV. If you feel comfortable and relaxed with your legs crossed, by all mean do it.
Also I listen to Kpop, how fucking feminine is that :D Some may say I nurture my inner 12yo girl, but really I just enjoy the music with a happy theme.
I just answer quastions, thats all. My nickname means shit like anyones else nicks - its just nick. It was just funny calling it usa team when there is noone from usa down there.
but anyways COOL job TT1 same as Sen. Sorry for Morrow little bit but if u want to be pro you cant have weak mu. Peace.
i woke up today and went to gom tv checking for vods. but its not ready yet so i couldn't resist(t.t) but click results on this thread.... omg. and now im refreshing non stop at gom website and avoiding TL furthermore until i get to watch all the vods.
And at the leg crossing conversation, in my opinion there is two types of crosses the manly cross (the one where the leg on top is resting close to the foot), and the womens cross.
On March 28 2011 22:42 Prostak wrote: Calling team non-korean team america make me laugh :D Why those dudes from USA always have to lie? They think they are the best in everything but true is they are crap in most of things, even nba is all black :D
So black people from USA aren't American?
Seriously Prostak. =)
BTW, we are best at most of the sports, we invented them and have a large talent pool. Nothing dishonest or elitist about that. Of course more global sports like futbol we aren't the best in, because we're too distracted by other sports. =)
The sports you are the best in the rest of the world mostly don't care about >_>
America has won the World Series for 108 years now >.>
On a side note this thread is now 2x more popular than NASL in such a short time, I'm kinda amazed. and man this was a really great day, hopefully the next series will have even more players.
World Series? Aren't the only teams involved all located in the USA, with ONE in Toronto. Doesn't seem very worldly.
you're not very good at recognizing jokes are you
It's surprising to find that an American being ignorant about sports outside of their country is just sarcasm.
I could just be biased from reading the OP of this thread originally having 'Team USA' on it when there actually aren't any US players.
It's not surprising that the rest of the world somehow still have a minority complex about USA.