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Balance whining will result in a ban
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#1361
Idra with perfect macro but no good micro or game-plan, I mean, he had a lot of timing windows to kill cruncher, and his in battle choices were strange.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#1362
On March 28 2011 03:38 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 03:37 Telcontar wrote:
On March 28 2011 03:36 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On March 28 2011 03:35 inTheMood wrote:
I'm glad this game took place. Now people can see how stupid this MU is!!!!!


QFT... thank god for the reset I've already been practicing my protoss

Watch Sen vs Naniwa in the GCPL finals to see how ZvP can be played. Expand your horizon man.


Whining is easier.

Tell me about it. It's so fucking sad.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
March 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#1363
With that many bases why wouldn't IdrA do the kind of Broodlord/Hydra composition I think ret did against iNcontroL and probably others. Broodlords seem to halt the advance of colossi and Hydras shred the VRs and Stalkers as they attempt to take out the Broodlords. I get that it's expensive but if your on 7 bases.... : /
Cake or Death?
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
March 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#1364
Hot_Bid Camera observing is so epic !!
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Pitons
Profile Joined June 2007
Lithuania45 Posts
March 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#1365
78989988 pages of the thread added while idra playing
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
March 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#1366
Idra should have used the possibility a zerg has, i mean he tried nydus which was good, but baneling drop + infestor would have been nice and mutalisks are 1000 times stronger against voidrays then corrupters...
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1367
On March 28 2011 03:39 Lasbike wrote:
Wait this game was before 1.3 ? I thought it was live



This game was played at 1.2.2. It's casted live though. Also the new 1.3 observer features do not work on custom maps.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1368
On March 28 2011 03:38 aneruok wrote:
you suppose to over make corruptors to kill the air and colossus and then build roach/ling to kill the ground army.



He had around 22 corrupters and he still didn't kill all the void rays. While the zerglings were instant killed by the handful stalkers + 4 collosus.
I had a good night of sleep.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1369
On March 28 2011 03:37 redbrain wrote:
I'm sorry but that was retarded the ZvP collosai void ray stalker ball is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR too strong even with infestors at the moment they only help a bit it takes away from your corruptor count which you still need.

Its far too much of an abusive build idra deserved toi win that game 100000000 times more than the other player he is 10x the player in everyway, just unfair how protoss can just do that and you cant say anything about it and i really disagree with day9 broodlords arent going to do anything about that.unless you rush to that soo fast you sacrifice econ to just bum rush their base.

Yeah void ray / coossus is dull and Cruncher did not have to do much here.

But what did Idra do to derserve the win? He just macroed till 200 supply, spread creep, and a-moved.
He can not seriously have expected to win this way against that army composition.
I
Off-season = best season
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1370
Chuncher going for same Build again i guess?
if play random i can't call any race imba?
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1371
Just got home, Day/Wheat. Pumped for the games and casters today.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1372
On March 28 2011 03:39 luckybeni2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 03:37 RmoteCntrld wrote:
On March 28 2011 03:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 28 2011 03:34 Zufiras wrote:
is there a way for zerg to really beat a 3 base turtling toss, whos waiting for a maxed push. Seems really hard if the toss knows what hes doing


Its called not letting your opponent mass up a 200/200 army. Even Idra has said as Zerg you can't go at them head on. He knows not to do it and still fucking does it.


Hes said you can't let them get 200/200 but theres nothing you can do since toss is too good defensively.

He had more than enough time to tech to Hive tech. That protoss ball is very powerfull but you have forever to prepare


What should he do with hive tech? Sucks against VRs.
susiederkins
Profile Joined March 2011
United States87 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1373
On March 28 2011 03:37 Kyuki wrote:
Look, if you have like 80 drones and the ability to max out way before Toss (which you always will) you should instead just camp out and scout scout before you make your units. Just stack up on larvae and if you see the toss continue with VR/Colo, just make frigging 30 corrupter and let roach/ling flood the few gateway units there are.

With the later tech you can transition easily into BLs. Issue has always been zerg maxing out on shit compositions. T_T


30 corruptors and you have no ground army, and the corruptors are still getting ripped by void ray/stalker.
Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1374
On March 28 2011 03:39 sgblack wrote:
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On March 28 2011 03:37 udgnim wrote:
I'm still surprised that people cite Idra's macro as a reason why Idra should have won

Zerg macro doesn't mean anything if Protoss is allowed to build up a 200/200 death ball

Cruncher wasnt even maxed when he attacked. Idra attacked at 200/200 lost, then remaxed and lost again.


Idra a moved basically, then fed his corrupters to the voids, GG. Shouldn't have talked shit.
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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 18:41:24
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1375
Wheat/day9 is such a pro team in casting!
I am not young enough to know everything.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1376
On March 28 2011 03:39 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 03:38 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 03:37 MoonBear wrote:
On March 28 2011 03:36 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: GSL Terminus RE
[image loading] (Z)EG.IdrA 0 vs 1 [image loading] (P)coL.Cruncher

Idra spawns as Red Zerg @3
Cruncher spawns as Blue Protoss @9

1:00
Idra with OL on 9, scouts north first. Cruncher with pylon on low ground and going with forge FE.

2:30
Idra with hatchery first on 15. 15 Nexus from Cruncher 30 seconds later. Pool goes down on 17, gas follows quickly.

4:00
Cruncher with a proxy pylon at the Zerg ramp. 4 Drones pulled to attack it, pylon cancelled just at the end. Chronon being used on probes. Cybercore is 20% done.

5:25
OLs hovering outside the Protoss base. Idra takes a third at the high-gas expo north of his nat. Cruncher going stargate.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
twisted03
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden137 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1377
Cruncher is such a bore...
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1378
On March 28 2011 03:39 MrCon wrote:
Idra with perfect macro but no good micro or game-plan, I mean, he had a lot of timing windows to kill cruncher, and his in battle choices were strange.


No he didn't. that 130 food army of toss would have beat that 200/200 zerg army because only place idra could place a fight was in a small choke as cruncher wasn't moving out till 200/200. I dont' see why people don't understand that...
When I think of something else, something will go here
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
March 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#1379
hahahah its gonna tear his family apart!!! ow god DjWheat you teaser xD
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 27 2011 18:41 GMT
#1380
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