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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
March 22 2011 23:25 GMT
#141
I don't see how anyone can complain about this list unless they were expecting every single good Korean to be invited, in which case you'd be delusional.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 22 2011 23:25 GMT
#142
On March 23 2011 08:19 Redox wrote:
People critisizing the Cruncher invite are simply clueless.
I myself am normally quite critical of NA players (more of a "Euro strong!!" guy). But I fully support the Cruncher invite. I can already bet in the end he will be better than 50 % of the NA players invited. Imo he is atm the second best protoss in NA (after kiwikaki, Huk not counting because he is in Korea).


Who's third?
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
RogueStatus
Profile Joined August 2010
266 Posts
March 22 2011 23:25 GMT
#143
On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:41 dsousa wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:34 Bobster wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:32 ditkaordie wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:27 Bobster wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:25 ditkaordie wrote:
15 out of 50 and no koreans yet... lets see how this develops

M..Moon?


1 of 15 koreans you are correct at the time I incorrectly thought moon was chinese

35 spots still open, leaves enough space for plenty more.



On March 23 2011 07:34 PukinDog wrote:
From the NASL web site:

"We knew we had to go big or go home. We needed an epic prize pool. We needed the best players."

Why do I get the feeling that these people are just sitting back having a laugh at our expense? Everything they have done so far, is so low-rent, its almost embarrassing. The web site is a fucking joke. HIRE SOMEONE! Please dont fuck up esports, you jerks. Cant you do anything with this that comes off as first class?

NASL = NOT ABOUT SUCKING LESS.

C'mon man, don't be a turd.

400k prize money, and those 15 players would make for a stacked tournament all of their own.


No, of those 15 the players that are MUST watch IMO are Moon, Idra, and maybe Kiwi.

Justin.TV invitational on SC2CASTS.com has about an equal lineup, so far.

July, Boxer, Nada, MC, (even Ace) all have better credentials that those chosen so far.
(so do Top, Ensnare, Squirtle, Rainbow)...




Oh so you want the GSL?

No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world?



Right.. He named all Koreans that can be found nightly watching a GSL. This isn't the GSL. That's my point, and it was never advertised to be the GSL.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
March 22 2011 23:25 GMT
#144
On March 23 2011 08:05 Mairu wrote:
I can't imagine what people expected from NASL. Maybe they had it in their heads that the player list would come out and it would mirror the GSL Code S/A lists with those who didn't apply being replaced with TL/ogs/root members but I personally didn't expect much. Their initial announcement suggested a limit on Korean players and while they've gone back on that I still don't expect this to be a Korean-dominant tournament. Referencing the preview video is also foolish as it's obviously just marketing hyperbole.



Exactly what I've been trying to tell people. It's like they are blind to the world and see/hear what they want to believe.
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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
March 22 2011 23:25 GMT
#145
Catz is the least accomplished of the first 15, that much is true.

Least tournament wins, least recent tournament results, least prize money won, second least ELO rating out of these 15. Which on the one hand just shows how strong the rest of the lineup is, but does raise questions about his credentials on the other.

His video was awesome, though. >_>


edit: I personally think Fenix is in a bit of a slump. If I had to name the weakest player out of the first 15, I'd say Fenix, then qxc.
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
March 22 2011 23:26 GMT
#146
On March 23 2011 08:22 HeroHenry wrote:
Hope the list gets better cause the current one is kind of disappointing.



Given NASL's multi-announcement history, you can't honestly expect them to put out the biggest players in the first announcement, can you?

Though given that we got a lot more players than we were expecting in the first place and most of them seem quite solid, I'm not going to complain.

Here's hoping iNcontroL gets in so he can lose to EG.Machine in the first round of a major tournament again, lol.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
Chained
Profile Joined February 2010
United States137 Posts
March 22 2011 23:26 GMT
#147
The Internet is such a negative place

People are hating on the player choice rather thn hoping for good games....

I could care less if it's MC vs MVP if Cruncher and KawaiiRice can put up a game that's just as good
MadChem
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany218 Posts
March 22 2011 23:26 GMT
#148
On March 23 2011 08:19 Redox wrote:
I could be critical of some of the other invites, but I wont. Everybody has his own opinions on players, but in the end its NASLs responsibility to do the invites. Their success and money is on the line here, not ours. And when someone they invited is indeed to weak, well than he will drop out of the league after the first season. Therefore I believe we should cut back on the criticism, and evaluate the players after the first season.


I fully support that
"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." - Oppenheimer
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:28:03
March 22 2011 23:27 GMT
#149
Christ, people will complain if they don't get exactly what they want. Wait for the fucking tournament before you condemn it.

As for the results results results, there are probably not even 50 players in the foriegner scene who have won a minor tournament (1k dollars+) so thats just stupid.

edit: all of these players have done at least well in minor-major tournaments (top 4, finals, etc, if not winning outright)
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 22 2011 23:27 GMT
#150
On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:41 dsousa wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:34 Bobster wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:32 ditkaordie wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:27 Bobster wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:25 ditkaordie wrote:
15 out of 50 and no koreans yet... lets see how this develops

M..Moon?


1 of 15 koreans you are correct at the time I incorrectly thought moon was chinese

35 spots still open, leaves enough space for plenty more.



On March 23 2011 07:34 PukinDog wrote:
From the NASL web site:

"We knew we had to go big or go home. We needed an epic prize pool. We needed the best players."

Why do I get the feeling that these people are just sitting back having a laugh at our expense? Everything they have done so far, is so low-rent, its almost embarrassing. The web site is a fucking joke. HIRE SOMEONE! Please dont fuck up esports, you jerks. Cant you do anything with this that comes off as first class?

NASL = NOT ABOUT SUCKING LESS.

C'mon man, don't be a turd.

400k prize money, and those 15 players would make for a stacked tournament all of their own.


No, of those 15 the players that are MUST watch IMO are Moon, Idra, and maybe Kiwi.

Justin.TV invitational on SC2CASTS.com has about an equal lineup, so far.

July, Boxer, Nada, MC, (even Ace) all have better credentials that those chosen so far.
(so do Top, Ensnare, Squirtle, Rainbow)...




Oh so you want the GSL?

No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world?


So fucking wait for the full bracket, so far 15 of the best players in the world have been announced.

Might want to actually educate yourself about them before shitting on NASL and the players.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
thezergk
Profile Joined October 2009
United States492 Posts
March 22 2011 23:27 GMT
#151
I really hope artosis gets in!
Nada vs. TLO Results: "Nada 1 TLO 1 Bnet 2 KESPA 1"
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 22 2011 23:28 GMT
#152
On March 23 2011 08:20 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:15 Zeles wrote:
I like how everyone is picking on Cruncher - who has shown results lately and even qualified for TSL3 - when the list also includes people who have shown a lot less results...HayprO anyone?


Well Haypro placed 4'th in a lan. But if your saying haypro I would say catz? Maybe I just haven't watched but has he done good in any recent tournaments?

And same for cloud has he done good in any bigger tournaments? I don't hear much about him in terms of tournaments. And then Cruncher as well those 3 are my only questionable invites ^^.

If you dont know anything about the players, why critisize them?
At least take a look at TLPD, cant be too difficult.
Clouds biggest achievements were probably winning Fnatic Play Sc2 Open quite recently (quite high profile tourney with top players) and second in German EPS (ahead of players like Demuslim, Goody, Hasuobs, Darkforce).
Off-season = best season
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
March 22 2011 23:28 GMT
#153
On March 23 2011 08:24 Ragoo wrote:
I'm pretty happy with the players so far. Seems this won't have too many Koreans, so it will be a foreigner event with some Koreans here and there.
Cool to see that 3 out of 4 of the Germans I wanted in this league are already in. Now the NASL only needs Goody the King and my German dream team is complete

I'm a little bit skeptical about some of the NA invites (namely Cruncher and CatZ) who I don't think are on the level of European pros at all. I'm aware that it's the North American Star League, but tbh I hope NA and EU can work together here and you choose the best foreigners and not too many NA players just because they are from NA.

And @ people who say Cloud is bad. Lol, you don't have any idea about Cloud then obviously. And Darkforce is easily top5 EU Zerg and there are not so many good Zergs to choose from on EU/NA so it's kind of a given to invite him.


And I will say this again: Goody the King must be invited to this! NASL can't be big without the Panzergeneral :D


I'm sure this has been stated before, but Cruncher has done quite well especially against europeans..
beat Sjow in bo7 show match
beat Kas and Strelok in the recent Justin.tv invitational
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iYiYi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
March 22 2011 23:28 GMT
#154
They are splitting races up in each group? Sounds like they are trying to hard to make everything "fair", but hey we will see how it works and they can always adjust next season.

Nice touch adding moon in there, definitely the most global korean out of all of them. Hope to see more in the future.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 22 2011 23:28 GMT
#155
On March 23 2011 08:25 RogueStatus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:41 dsousa wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:34 Bobster wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:32 ditkaordie wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:27 Bobster wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:25 ditkaordie wrote:
15 out of 50 and no koreans yet... lets see how this develops

M..Moon?


1 of 15 koreans you are correct at the time I incorrectly thought moon was chinese

35 spots still open, leaves enough space for plenty more.



On March 23 2011 07:34 PukinDog wrote:
From the NASL web site:

"We knew we had to go big or go home. We needed an epic prize pool. We needed the best players."

Why do I get the feeling that these people are just sitting back having a laugh at our expense? Everything they have done so far, is so low-rent, its almost embarrassing. The web site is a fucking joke. HIRE SOMEONE! Please dont fuck up esports, you jerks. Cant you do anything with this that comes off as first class?

NASL = NOT ABOUT SUCKING LESS.

C'mon man, don't be a turd.

400k prize money, and those 15 players would make for a stacked tournament all of their own.


No, of those 15 the players that are MUST watch IMO are Moon, Idra, and maybe Kiwi.

Justin.TV invitational on SC2CASTS.com has about an equal lineup, so far.

July, Boxer, Nada, MC, (even Ace) all have better credentials that those chosen so far.
(so do Top, Ensnare, Squirtle, Rainbow)...




Oh so you want the GSL?

No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world?



Right.. He named all Koreans that can be found nightly watching a GSL. This isn't the GSL. That's my point, and it was never advertised to be the GSL.


"BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD" I think we all remember that. None of us are asking for a Korean dominated tournament, but almost completely excluding them turns the NASL into the North American Average Player Starleague.

If players like Darkforce, Catz, Cruncher and KawaiiRice get in, I also expect Nestea, July, MC, MVP, Boxer and Nada.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:31:40
March 22 2011 23:29 GMT
#156
On March 23 2011 08:24 Ragoo wrote:
I'm pretty happy with the players so far. Seems this won't have too many Koreans, so it will be a foreigner event with some Koreans here and there.
Cool to see that 3 out of 4 of the Germans I wanted in this league are already in. Now the NASL only needs Goody the King and my German dream team is complete

And I will say this again: Goody the King must be invited to this! NASL can't be big without the Panzergeneral :D

Hear hear!

Won three tournaments in two weeks, second in another and third in a fifth. The Panzer General's on a fucking roll.

On March 23 2011 08:28 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:25 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:41 dsousa wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:34 Bobster wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:32 ditkaordie wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:27 Bobster wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:25 ditkaordie wrote:
15 out of 50 and no koreans yet... lets see how this develops

M..Moon?


1 of 15 koreans you are correct at the time I incorrectly thought moon was chinese

35 spots still open, leaves enough space for plenty more.



On March 23 2011 07:34 PukinDog wrote:
From the NASL web site:

"We knew we had to go big or go home. We needed an epic prize pool. We needed the best players."

Why do I get the feeling that these people are just sitting back having a laugh at our expense? Everything they have done so far, is so low-rent, its almost embarrassing. The web site is a fucking joke. HIRE SOMEONE! Please dont fuck up esports, you jerks. Cant you do anything with this that comes off as first class?

NASL = NOT ABOUT SUCKING LESS.

C'mon man, don't be a turd.

400k prize money, and those 15 players would make for a stacked tournament all of their own.


No, of those 15 the players that are MUST watch IMO are Moon, Idra, and maybe Kiwi.

Justin.TV invitational on SC2CASTS.com has about an equal lineup, so far.

July, Boxer, Nada, MC, (even Ace) all have better credentials that those chosen so far.
(so do Top, Ensnare, Squirtle, Rainbow)...




Oh so you want the GSL?

No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world?



Right.. He named all Koreans that can be found nightly watching a GSL. This isn't the GSL. That's my point, and it was never advertised to be the GSL.

If players like Darkforce, Catz, Cruncher and KawaiiRice get in, I also expect Nestea, July, MC, MVP, Boxer and Nada.

Nestea and Mvp didn't even apply. :lol

July, MC, Boxer and Nada should definitely be invited. I think at least three of them will be.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 22 2011 23:30 GMT
#157
I hope Artosis makes the cut! But they should invite tournaments winners from now on! I am really missing some big names. But yeah, I hope on 9 more Koreans and the best Europeans.

This list is actually kind of disappointing, They should have trown in a couple more really big names in those first 15.
I had a good night of sleep.
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:32:46
March 22 2011 23:30 GMT
#158
On March 23 2011 08:26 Chained wrote:
The Internet is such a negative place

People are hating on the player choice rather thn hoping for good games....

I could care less if it's MC vs MVP if Cruncher and KawaiiRice can put up a game that's just as good



This is a terrible attitude. The nature of sport and competition is to find out whose the best and have them play each other. If you think sc2 is about entertainment, you are saying its like WWE but I respect the game too much, I would liken it to tennis or wrestling: furious, competitive sport. And as a spectator I want to see the best of the best.

edit - I do like the NASL invites for the most part actually.
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
March 22 2011 23:31 GMT
#159
if there are more germans than koreans ill be sad ;((

lol jk xD
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 22 2011 23:31 GMT
#160
Cruncher has done alright recently. Still think he needs to step it up a bit though if he wants to be a serious contender. I also don't like the Haypro invite, keep hearing great things, but I never see too much of it. Haven't seen him in a bit though so I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
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