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On March 23 2011 08:27 1Eris1 wrote:
Christ, people will complain if they don't get exactly what they want. Wait for the fucking tournament before you condemn it.
As for the results results results, there are probably not even 50 players in the foriegner scene who have won a minor tournament (1k dollars+) so thats just stupid.
edit: all of these players have done at least well in minor-major tournaments (top 4, finals, etc, if not winning outright)
People dont complain about not getting what they want. THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT GETTING WHAT THEY ARE PROMISED.
Dont tell me "best players in the world" and invite people who cant get through Code A.
DONT.
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On March 23 2011 08:28 stalife wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 23 2011 08:24 Ragoo wrote:I'm pretty happy with the players so far. Seems this won't have too many Koreans, so it will be a foreigner event with some Koreans here and there. Cool to see that 3 out of 4 of the Germans I wanted in this league are already in. Now the NASL only needs Goody the King and my German dream team is complete  I'm a little bit skeptical about some of the NA invites (namely Cruncher and CatZ) who I don't think are on the level of European pros at all. I'm aware that it's the North American Star League, but tbh I hope NA and EU can work together here and you choose the best foreigners and not too many NA players just because they are from NA. And @ people who say Cloud is bad. Lol, you don't have any idea about Cloud then obviously. And Darkforce is easily top5 EU Zerg and there are not so many good Zergs to choose from on EU/NA so it's kind of a given to invite him. And I will say this again: Goody the King must be invited to this! NASL can't be big without the Panzergeneral :D I'm sure this has been stated before, but Cruncher has done quite well especially against europeans.. beat Sjow in bo7 show match beat Kas and Strelok in the recent Justin.tv invitational
Ok, if that's the case I just made a fool of myself lol
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On March 23 2011 08:05 AnotherEon wrote:Seriously.... who the hell is being cut for Cruncher? he has barely any results, barely any fans, and most of his tl open run was abusive 1-2 base all ins hes probably friends with one of the higher ups :p interesting considering how adamant NASL were on preventing collusion
This guy has not been playing very long and is already top 50 in the world O.o I don't think so.
Sad to see someone got cut for the abusive 1-2 base protoss Cruncher =/
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On March 23 2011 08:31 PukinDog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 08:27 1Eris1 wrote:
Christ, people will complain if they don't get exactly what they want. Wait for the fucking tournament before you condemn it.
As for the results results results, there are probably not even 50 players in the foriegner scene who have won a minor tournament (1k dollars+) so thats just stupid.
edit: all of these players have done at least well in minor-major tournaments (top 4, finals, etc, if not winning outright) People dont complain about not getting what they want. THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT GETTING WHAT THEY ARE PROMISED. Dont tell me "best players in the world" and invite people who cant get through Code A. DONT.
You mean don't invite players who are not Koreans right? Damn bro, you mad as hell.
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On March 23 2011 08:31 PukinDog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 08:27 1Eris1 wrote:
Christ, people will complain if they don't get exactly what they want. Wait for the fucking tournament before you condemn it.
As for the results results results, there are probably not even 50 players in the foriegner scene who have won a minor tournament (1k dollars+) so thats just stupid.
edit: all of these players have done at least well in minor-major tournaments (top 4, finals, etc, if not winning outright) People dont complain about not getting what they want. THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT GETTING WHAT THEY ARE PROMISED. Dont tell me "best players in the world" and invite people who cant get through Code A. DONT.
I thought you were done with this thread? Really sucks when we're not getting what we were promised. 
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On March 23 2011 08:31 PukinDog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 08:27 1Eris1 wrote:
Christ, people will complain if they don't get exactly what they want. Wait for the fucking tournament before you condemn it.
As for the results results results, there are probably not even 50 players in the foriegner scene who have won a minor tournament (1k dollars+) so thats just stupid.
edit: all of these players have done at least well in minor-major tournaments (top 4, finals, etc, if not winning outright) People dont complain about not getting what they want. THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT GETTING WHAT THEY ARE PROMISED. Dont tell me "best players in the world" and invite people who cant get through Code A. DONT.
you don't even know what you are getting by now
those are FIFTEEN out of FIFTY players ffs...
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On March 23 2011 08:31 PukinDog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 08:27 1Eris1 wrote:
Christ, people will complain if they don't get exactly what they want. Wait for the fucking tournament before you condemn it.
As for the results results results, there are probably not even 50 players in the foriegner scene who have won a minor tournament (1k dollars+) so thats just stupid.
edit: all of these players have done at least well in minor-major tournaments (top 4, finals, etc, if not winning outright) People dont complain about not getting what they want. THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT GETTING WHAT THEY ARE PROMISED. Dont tell me "best players in the world" and invite people who cant get through Code A. DONT.
If you honestly expected the "North American Star-League" to be filled with Koreans, you are an idiot.
Besides, guess what? This is only 15 invites! There weren't even close to 35 Korean APPLICATIONS. THEY CAN'T INVITE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T APPLY.
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On March 23 2011 08:28 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 08:25 RogueStatus wrote:On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:On March 23 2011 07:41 dsousa wrote:On March 23 2011 07:34 Bobster wrote:On March 23 2011 07:32 ditkaordie wrote:On March 23 2011 07:27 Bobster wrote:On March 23 2011 07:25 ditkaordie wrote:
15 out of 50 and no koreans yet... lets see how this develops M..Moon? 1 of 15 koreans you are correct at the time I incorrectly thought moon was chinese 35 spots still open, leaves enough space for plenty more.  On March 23 2011 07:34 PukinDog wrote:
From the NASL web site:
"We knew we had to go big or go home. We needed an epic prize pool. We needed the best players."
Why do I get the feeling that these people are just sitting back having a laugh at our expense? Everything they have done so far, is so low-rent, its almost embarrassing. The web site is a fucking joke. HIRE SOMEONE! Please dont fuck up esports, you jerks. Cant you do anything with this that comes off as first class?
NASL = NOT ABOUT SUCKING LESS. C'mon man, don't be a turd. 400k prize money, and those 15 players would make for a stacked tournament all of their own. No, of those 15 the players that are MUST watch IMO are Moon, Idra, and maybe Kiwi. Justin.TV invitational on SC2CASTS.com has about an equal lineup, so far. July, Boxer, Nada, MC, (even Ace) all have better credentials that those chosen so far.
(so do Top, Ensnare, Squirtle, Rainbow)... Oh so you want the GSL? No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world? Right.. He named all Koreans that can be found nightly watching a GSL. This isn't the GSL. That's my point, and it was never advertised to be the GSL. "BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD" I think we all remember that. None of us are asking for a Korean dominated tournament, but almost completely excluding them turns the NASL into the North American Average Player Starleague. If players like Darkforce, Catz, Cruncher and KawaiiRice get in, I also expect Nestea, July, MC, MVP, Boxer and Nada.
This "Best Players in the World" talk is like crying because someone lied to you. Yeah they HYPED their new league, yeah they said the best players in the world would be there. So what? All leagues in the world say that! There are great players there, some of them probably ARE amongst the best in the world. Just accept it won't be all filled with Koreans and a few foreigners (cause any other combination would still be accused of not being the best in the world) and recognize the quality of players that are being invited.
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I think TSL did a better job of announcing the players. I watched the almost 2 hour TSL bracket show and was impressed. Have some reasoning/explanation about why the players were chosen. This needs to be transparent especially when the list of players are done by invites. Posting it up like that without any reasoning is not very professional imo.
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Has Cloud won anything? I didn't even know he made the move to SC2.
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Going to refrain from saying anything about the skill of the players picked until all 50 are announced.
Also I agree with the post above me wanting some kind of explanation as to why every person was picked. Don't need some long explanation just something so we know you didn't draw names from a hat.
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Cloud won the XMG lately, beating mana and Hasuobs 2:0 and 3:0, hes very high ranked in the ladder so i think hes a much better player than most of the people complaining here realize.
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On March 23 2011 08:36 Bart wrote:
I think TSL did a better job of announcing the players. I watched the almost 2 hour TSL bracket show and was impressed. Have some reasoning/explanation about why the players were chosen. This needs to be transparent especially when the list of players are done by invites. Posting it up like that without any reasoning is not very professional imo.
You knew all the players before the bracket show ...
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I wonder if they will post an explanation as to why they invited each player.
Would anyone else like this? Or is this asking too much?
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On March 23 2011 08:37 lac29 wrote:
Has Cloud won anything? I didn't even know he made the move to SC2.
He won XMG, Fnatic's Play Cup, placed second at EPS and is one of Europe's best Terran, and that's saying something considering Europe is Terran heavy.
On March 23 2011 08:39 DazZle. wrote:
I wonder if they will post an explanation as to why they invited each player.
Would anyone else like this? Or is this asking too much?
It's completely unnecessary. A tournament organizer has absolutely no reason to justify the players they invite.
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On March 23 2011 08:37 lac29 wrote:
Has Cloud won anything? I didn't even know he made the move to SC2.
Cloud has won 5 tournaments, placed second in the ESL Pro Series behind Socke, with three more second place finishes and another two bronze medals. His most recent tournament win was the ESL Go4SC2 Cup on 13th of February.
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On March 23 2011 08:36 Bart wrote:
I think TSL did a better job of announcing the players. I watched the almost 2 hour TSL bracket show and was impressed. Have some reasoning/explanation about why the players were chosen. This needs to be transparent especially when the list of players are done by invites. Posting it up like that without any reasoning is not very professional imo.
there were no players announced in the bracket show, the bracket was announced in the bracket show.
also cloud:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1610_ClouD
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Oh I guess I dunno what's going on in Europe atm.
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On March 23 2011 08:05 Mairu wrote:
I really expect NASL season 1 to be on a similar level as the first few GSL seasons in terms of average player skill but I'm not dissatisfied with the invites released so far. There's little point to criticizing every individual choice as there was no chance that they'd be able to invite 50 people pleasing everyone.
I really agree with this statement. Reminiscing back to GSL 1, there were some pretty awesome players but there were also many bad (GSL-wise) players. It isn't until the most recent GSL and I truly felt comprised the best of the best in Korea (and judging by the recent SlayerS > oGs in the GSTL maybe the GSL code A/S doesn't contain the best players overall).
The one thing I am really looking forward to from the NASL is watching some of my fan favorites. Sure I like watching Koreans like MC hammer opponents but there is nothing like rooting for my favorite NA players. It is something to watch high level play but it is also something to watch similarly high level play and then go post on their facebook page "qxc you are such a badass! USA represent!!"
I think the NASL will help breed much stronger competition in other regions of the world besides Korea even if it does start off a little rough. This could lead to many strong players from different nations which could raise interest considerably. I know I didn't give a lick about pro SC2 until I started watching ROOT. For me it was that connection of nationality and gaming that sealed the deal. I really think the NASL will foster those connections and some of the nay-sayers will be biting their tongues in 6 months or a year.
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On March 23 2011 08:34 Momildo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 08:28 setzer wrote:On March 23 2011 08:25 RogueStatus wrote:On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:On March 23 2011 07:41 dsousa wrote:On March 23 2011 07:34 Bobster wrote:On March 23 2011 07:32 ditkaordie wrote:On March 23 2011 07:27 Bobster wrote:On March 23 2011 07:25 ditkaordie wrote:
15 out of 50 and no koreans yet... lets see how this develops M..Moon? 1 of 15 koreans you are correct at the time I incorrectly thought moon was chinese 35 spots still open, leaves enough space for plenty more. On March 23 2011 07:34 PukinDog wrote:
From the NASL web site:
"We knew we had to go big or go home. We needed an epic prize pool. We needed the best players."
Why do I get the feeling that these people are just sitting back having a laugh at our expense? Everything they have done so far, is so low-rent, its almost embarrassing. The web site is a fucking joke. HIRE SOMEONE! Please dont fuck up esports, you jerks. Cant you do anything with this that comes off as first class?
NASL = NOT ABOUT SUCKING LESS. C'mon man, don't be a turd. 400k prize money, and those 15 players would make for a stacked tournament all of their own. No, of those 15 the players that are MUST watch IMO are Moon, Idra, and maybe Kiwi. Justin.TV invitational on SC2CASTS.com has about an equal lineup, so far. July, Boxer, Nada, MC, (even Ace) all have better credentials that those chosen so far.
(so do Top, Ensnare, Squirtle, Rainbow)... Oh so you want the GSL? No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world? Right.. He named all Koreans that can be found nightly watching a GSL. This isn't the GSL. That's my point, and it was never advertised to be the GSL. "BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD" I think we all remember that. None of us are asking for a Korean dominated tournament, but almost completely excluding them turns the NASL into the North American Average Player Starleague. If players like Darkforce, Catz, Cruncher and KawaiiRice get in, I also expect Nestea, July, MC, MVP, Boxer and Nada. This "Best Players in the World" talk is like crying because someone lied to you. Yeah they HYPED their new league, yeah they said the best players in the world would be there. So what? All leagues in the world say that! There are great players there, some of them probably ARE amongst the best in the world. Just accept it won't be all filled with Koreans and a few foreigners (cause any other combination would still be accused of not being the best in the world) and recognize the quality of players that are being invited.
I don't want it to be filled with Koreans, but only ONE was announced among 15, some of whom are arguably not among the top players, even in their respective region. Like others, it is a little bit worrying that players like Darkforce (not even a top5 EU zerg in my book) can be invited where as some very good Koreans are cut.
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