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Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
ultramafia
Profile Joined August 2010
221 Posts
March 22 2011 23:57 GMT
#201
Honestly the best decision the NASL could make is stop interacting with the community. They've done everything they can to give people a say and people whine like crazy...so they appease and than people cry that they appeased!

I just want to say thanks to NASL for dropping everything they are doing in there lives to attempt to give me something i LOVE...Competitive starcraft. If you fail i'll be sad but for fucks sake THANK YOU. And if you succeed and make a buck, congratulations. Either way i get more starcraft for doing absolutely nothing...

毒爆虫 | CJ Entus fight
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 00:00:25
March 22 2011 23:58 GMT
#202
On March 23 2011 08:56 DazZle. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 05:10 Xeris wrote:
Guys, nobody is being chosen based on their video... ~_~!

We're choosing based on:
1) Results
2) Results
3) Results
4) Popularity

There ya go!



Cruncher must really be popular

No but he's definitely shown much better results than most of players in North America.
On March 23 2011 08:57 ultramafia wrote:
Honestly the best decision the NASL could make is stop interacting with the community. They've done everything they can to give people a say and people whine like crazy...so they appease and than people cry that they appeased!

I just want to say thanks to NASL for dropping everything they are doing in there lives to attempt to give me something i LOVE...Competitive starcraft. If you fail i'll be sad but for fucks sake THANK YOU. And if you succeed and make a buck, congratulations. Either way i get more starcraft for doing absolutely nothing...


I hate to say this, but I think this was their mistake. Interacting with the community and also the voting gave people false hope, regardless if they said that they were not going to pick players based off it, that they might have the influence to get their favorite player in the league.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
UNeeK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States237 Posts
March 22 2011 23:58 GMT
#203
On March 23 2011 07:38 Xeris wrote:
This is a teaser website folks... haha :D




its teasing me to never visit it, it's really bad,,, and i'm not being a jerk... it's just bad... they really need a real website asap, that hopefully is better than this.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:59:53
March 22 2011 23:59 GMT
#204
On March 23 2011 08:53 Gatsbi wrote:

Why shouldn't it have 40 Koreans? Are they not 'The Best Players the World Has Seen'? I don't get it, it seems like you guys don't even want the best players, you just want a bunch of average (when being compared to Koreans) NA/Euros

Thorzain was just an "average" euro, as was Hasuobs in the eyes of many people. They proved everyone wrong on the first round of TSL already. Of course we also had Ciara...

I think (most of) these guys deserve to have a shot, and are capable of producing some excellent games. There's still 35 spots left, plenty of room for the korean all-stars.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 00:00:58
March 22 2011 23:59 GMT
#205
Contrary to what seems to be the majority opinion, I don't really care about purposely inviting the Koreans. To me, they have their own dedicated, big-payout league to play in. I think the focus for NASL should be for the rest of the world. That's not to say if they want to fly here and play they won't be allowed, but I'd rather see foreign pro gamers supported more strongly.

I'd rather see some out of the blue fringe-pro-amateur gamers out there win and get money than some pro Korean.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 00:02:13
March 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#206
On March 23 2011 08:53 Gatsbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:51 nihlon wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:45 Momildo wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:42 setzer wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:34 Momildo wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:28 setzer wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:25 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:41 dsousa wrote:
[quote]

No, of those 15 the players that are MUST watch IMO are Moon, Idra, and maybe Kiwi.

Justin.TV invitational on SC2CASTS.com has about an equal lineup, so far.

July, Boxer, Nada, MC, (even Ace) all have better credentials that those chosen so far.
(so do Top, Ensnare, Squirtle, Rainbow)...




Oh so you want the GSL?

No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world?



Right.. He named all Koreans that can be found nightly watching a GSL. This isn't the GSL. That's my point, and it was never advertised to be the GSL.


"BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD" I think we all remember that. None of us are asking for a Korean dominated tournament, but almost completely excluding them turns the NASL into the North American Average Player Starleague.

If players like Darkforce, Catz, Cruncher and KawaiiRice get in, I also expect Nestea, July, MC, MVP, Boxer and Nada.


This "Best Players in the World" talk is like crying because someone lied to you. Yeah they HYPED their new league, yeah they said the best players in the world would be there. So what? All leagues in the world say that! There are great players there, some of them probably ARE amongst the best in the world. Just accept it won't be all filled with Koreans and a few foreigners (cause any other combination would still be accused of not being the best in the world) and recognize the quality of players that are being invited.


I don't want it to be filled with Koreans, but only ONE was announced among 15, some of whom are arguably not among the top players, even in their respective region. Like others, it is a little bit worrying that players like Darkforce (not even a top5 EU zerg in my book) can be invited where as some very good Koreans are cut.


Well I have read many posts saying Darforce is top5, top3 zerg in Europe, so it is clear that each person has a different book. The NASL has reasons for choosing as it does, reasons that they need not even explain (if they do, good for them).


I don't think you can name 5 better zergs than darkforce in Europe atm.

Also I think it had been very clear from the beginning that NASL take more into account than just player skill so I don't understand how this comes as a chock to some people. Did they honestly think we would have like 40 Koreans or something?


Why shouldn't it have 40 Koreans? Are they not 'The Best Players the World Has Seen'? I don't get it, it seems like you guys don't even want the best players, you just want a bunch of average (when being compared to Koreans) NA/Euros


We already have the tournament you're speaking of, check out www.gomtv.net.
That's where most of the people go when they want to see 99% Koreans play.

I like how people are all going on about "Owww foreign e-sports is getting huge" and then go "awww, why aren't there 90% koreans in that north american star league?!"


I'd have way more fun watching a NASL full of foreign players with like 5-10 koreans than watching GSL... I never was as excited as last weekend watching TSL3 when it comes to sc2.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Momildo
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil93 Posts
March 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#207
On March 23 2011 08:53 Gatsbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:51 nihlon wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:45 Momildo wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:42 setzer wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:34 Momildo wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:28 setzer wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:25 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:41 dsousa wrote:
[quote]

No, of those 15 the players that are MUST watch IMO are Moon, Idra, and maybe Kiwi.

Justin.TV invitational on SC2CASTS.com has about an equal lineup, so far.

July, Boxer, Nada, MC, (even Ace) all have better credentials that those chosen so far.
(so do Top, Ensnare, Squirtle, Rainbow)...




Oh so you want the GSL?

No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world?



Right.. He named all Koreans that can be found nightly watching a GSL. This isn't the GSL. That's my point, and it was never advertised to be the GSL.


"BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD" I think we all remember that. None of us are asking for a Korean dominated tournament, but almost completely excluding them turns the NASL into the North American Average Player Starleague.

If players like Darkforce, Catz, Cruncher and KawaiiRice get in, I also expect Nestea, July, MC, MVP, Boxer and Nada.


This "Best Players in the World" talk is like crying because someone lied to you. Yeah they HYPED their new league, yeah they said the best players in the world would be there. So what? All leagues in the world say that! There are great players there, some of them probably ARE amongst the best in the world. Just accept it won't be all filled with Koreans and a few foreigners (cause any other combination would still be accused of not being the best in the world) and recognize the quality of players that are being invited.


I don't want it to be filled with Koreans, but only ONE was announced among 15, some of whom are arguably not among the top players, even in their respective region. Like others, it is a little bit worrying that players like Darkforce (not even a top5 EU zerg in my book) can be invited where as some very good Koreans are cut.


Well I have read many posts saying Darforce is top5, top3 zerg in Europe, so it is clear that each person has a different book. The NASL has reasons for choosing as it does, reasons that they need not even explain (if they do, good for them).


I don't think you can name 5 better zergs than darkforce in Europe atm.

Also I think it had been very clear from the beginning that NASL take more into account than just player skill so I don't understand how this comes as a chock to some people. Did they honestly think we would have like 40 Koreans or something?


Why shouldn't it have 40 Koreans? Are they not 'The Best Players the World Has Seen'? I don't get it, it seems like you guys don't even want the best players, you just want a bunch of average (when being compared to Koreans) NA/Euros


We want the NASL, we don't choose their philosophy. If they decide that bringing in 40 Koreans is what they want, great. If not, hey its their call and it is still great.

There is a misconception that this is the people's league just cause the NASL is more open to the fans. It is not. We can only voice our wants. But random criticism cause their decision doesn't reflect personal views is annoying. Don't like it? Don't watch it.
DazZle.
Profile Joined February 2011
United States56 Posts
March 23 2011 00:01 GMT
#208
On March 23 2011 08:58 GenoZStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:56 DazZle. wrote:
On March 05 2011 05:10 Xeris wrote:
Guys, nobody is being chosen based on their video... ~_~!

We're choosing based on:
1) Results
2) Results
3) Results
4) Popularity

There ya go!



Cruncher must really be popular

No but he's definitely shown much better results than most of players in North America.
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:57 ultramafia wrote:
Honestly the best decision the NASL could make is stop interacting with the community. They've done everything they can to give people a say and people whine like crazy...so they appease and than people cry that they appeased!

I just want to say thanks to NASL for dropping everything they are doing in there lives to attempt to give me something i LOVE...Competitive starcraft. If you fail i'll be sad but for fucks sake THANK YOU. And if you succeed and make a buck, congratulations. Either way i get more starcraft for doing absolutely nothing...


I hate to say this, but I think this was their mistake. Interacting with the community and also the voting gave people false hope regardless if they said that they were not going to pick players based off it.


4 gate your way into nasl
MisterPuppy
Profile Joined August 2010
161 Posts
March 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#209
On March 23 2011 08:57 ultramafia wrote:
Honestly the best decision the NASL could make is stop interacting with the community. They've done everything they can to give people a say and people whine like crazy...so they appease and than people cry that they appeased!

I just want to say thanks to NASL for dropping everything they are doing in there lives to attempt to give me something i LOVE...Competitive starcraft. If you fail i'll be sad but for fucks sake THANK YOU. And if you succeed and make a buck, congratulations. Either way i get more starcraft for doing absolutely nothing...




they're asking money from us while simultaneously doing nothing right when it involves the community.

wait blizzard isn't running this right.
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 00:08:23
March 23 2011 00:07 GMT
#210
On March 23 2011 09:00 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:53 Gatsbi wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:51 nihlon wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:45 Momildo wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:42 setzer wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:34 Momildo wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:28 setzer wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:25 RogueStatus wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:16 hmunkey wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:11 RogueStatus wrote:
[quote]

Oh so you want the GSL?

No, he wants a tournament of highly skilled players. You know, the best players in the world?



Right.. He named all Koreans that can be found nightly watching a GSL. This isn't the GSL. That's my point, and it was never advertised to be the GSL.


"BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD" I think we all remember that. None of us are asking for a Korean dominated tournament, but almost completely excluding them turns the NASL into the North American Average Player Starleague.

If players like Darkforce, Catz, Cruncher and KawaiiRice get in, I also expect Nestea, July, MC, MVP, Boxer and Nada.


This "Best Players in the World" talk is like crying because someone lied to you. Yeah they HYPED their new league, yeah they said the best players in the world would be there. So what? All leagues in the world say that! There are great players there, some of them probably ARE amongst the best in the world. Just accept it won't be all filled with Koreans and a few foreigners (cause any other combination would still be accused of not being the best in the world) and recognize the quality of players that are being invited.


I don't want it to be filled with Koreans, but only ONE was announced among 15, some of whom are arguably not among the top players, even in their respective region. Like others, it is a little bit worrying that players like Darkforce (not even a top5 EU zerg in my book) can be invited where as some very good Koreans are cut.


Well I have read many posts saying Darforce is top5, top3 zerg in Europe, so it is clear that each person has a different book. The NASL has reasons for choosing as it does, reasons that they need not even explain (if they do, good for them).


I don't think you can name 5 better zergs than darkforce in Europe atm.

Also I think it had been very clear from the beginning that NASL take more into account than just player skill so I don't understand how this comes as a chock to some people. Did they honestly think we would have like 40 Koreans or something?


Why shouldn't it have 40 Koreans? Are they not 'The Best Players the World Has Seen'? I don't get it, it seems like you guys don't even want the best players, you just want a bunch of average (when being compared to Koreans) NA/Euros


We already have the tournament you're speaking of, check out www.gomtv.net.
That's where most of the people go when they want to see 99% Koreans play.

I like how people are all going on about "Owww foreign e-sports is getting huge" and then go "awww, why aren't there 90% koreans in that north american star league?!"


I'd have way more fun watching a NASL full of foreign players with like 5-10 koreans than watching GSL... I never was as excited as last weekend watching TSL3 when it comes to sc2.


Why should there only be 1 tournament like the GSL? In BW we had OSL MSL, and sometimes WCG and GOM tourneys. Why do foreigners deserve the biggest prize pool in SC2? They are getting rewarded for not being the best? wtf? that is ridiculous. The "hurp derp we already have that tourney its called gsl" argument is absolutely retarded, the more competitions there are with top koreans, the harder the foreigners will want to compete to become a part of that. they will practice and train harder and eventually be able to compete with Koreans. Do you just want it to turn into BW again, completely segregated between foreigners and Koreans, or do you want to see your favorite players battling it out on the world's top stage?
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lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
March 23 2011 00:08 GMT
#211
I wonder who else they invited! List looks promising!
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
March 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#212
On March 23 2011 08:05 AnotherEon wrote:
Seriously.... who the hell is being cut for Cruncher? he has barely any results, barely any fans, and most of his tl open run was abusive 1-2 base all ins

hes probably friends with one of the higher ups :p interesting considering how adamant NASL were on preventing collusion



I feel the need to stand up for my player here. Alot of commentors are jumping on the 'why Cruncher' bandwagon and I don't think that's fair. The guy beat Fenix in a bo3 for the TL Open. He recently beat PainUser, SjoW and LzGaMeR in bo7 series. He hasn't had many opportunities to prove himself yet but has done well in almost every shot he has been given.

Keep your eyes on him in 2011. He's going to be a solid player, regardless whether or not he has the "big name" forum fans like to see.
compLexity Gaming - @coL_Lake
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 23 2011 00:15 GMT
#213
On March 23 2011 09:10 jlake02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:05 AnotherEon wrote:
Seriously.... who the hell is being cut for Cruncher? he has barely any results, barely any fans, and most of his tl open run was abusive 1-2 base all ins

hes probably friends with one of the higher ups :p interesting considering how adamant NASL were on preventing collusion



I feel the need to stand up for my player here. Alot of commentors are jumping on the 'why Cruncher' bandwagon and I don't think that's fair. The guy beat Fenix in a bo3 for the TL Open. He recently beat PainUser, SjoW and LzGaMeR in bo7 series. He hasn't had many opportunities to prove himself yet but has done well in almost every shot he has been given.

Keep your eyes on him in 2011. He's going to be a solid player, regardless whether or not he has the "big name" forum fans like to see.

After the first season his critics will be silent anyway after he finishes in front of many NA fan favorites. I am pretty sure of that.
Off-season = best season
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
March 23 2011 00:16 GMT
#214
To be fair, I was watching Cruncher's stream and he crushed avilo like 5 times in a row.
coLCruncher fighting!
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 00:17:34
March 23 2011 00:17 GMT
#215
On March 23 2011 09:10 jlake02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:05 AnotherEon wrote:
Seriously.... who the hell is being cut for Cruncher? he has barely any results, barely any fans, and most of his tl open run was abusive 1-2 base all ins

hes probably friends with one of the higher ups :p interesting considering how adamant NASL were on preventing collusion



I feel the need to stand up for my player here. Alot of commentors are jumping on the 'why Cruncher' bandwagon and I don't think that's fair. The guy beat Fenix in a bo3 for the TL Open. He recently beat PainUser, SjoW and LzGaMeR in bo7 series. He hasn't had many opportunities to prove himself yet but has done well in almost every shot he has been given.

Keep your eyes on him in 2011. He's going to be a solid player, regardless whether or not he has the "big name" forum fans like to see.

I worry too much. Half of the people commenting here do not follow the SC2 scene outside of GSL so they wouldn't know that. Some don't even know who Cruncher is to begin with other than he's some guy who qualify for TSL and 4-gates a lot.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
ultramafia
Profile Joined August 2010
221 Posts
March 23 2011 00:17 GMT
#216
On March 23 2011 09:06 MisterPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:57 ultramafia wrote:
Honestly the best decision the NASL could make is stop interacting with the community. They've done everything they can to give people a say and people whine like crazy...so they appease and than people cry that they appeased!

I just want to say thanks to NASL for dropping everything they are doing in there lives to attempt to give me something i LOVE...Competitive starcraft. If you fail i'll be sad but for fucks sake THANK YOU. And if you succeed and make a buck, congratulations. Either way i get more starcraft for doing absolutely nothing...




they're asking money from us while simultaneously doing nothing right when it involves the community.

wait blizzard isn't running this right.


They aren't asking you for money... they are offering you a free stream.
毒爆虫 | CJ Entus fight
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
March 23 2011 00:17 GMT
#217
YEsssss naniwa fighting!
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 23 2011 00:17 GMT
#218
On March 23 2011 09:16 TitleRug wrote:
To be fair, I was watching Cruncher's stream and he crushed avilo like 5 times in a row.

Crushed Avilo, omg so gosu.

Seriously though, I have to agree that Cruncher looked really solid against Sjow and Painuser.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
March 23 2011 00:18 GMT
#219
It's exciting for me to see fringe players win over the expected regulars. I'm def rooting for Cruncher.
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
March 23 2011 00:19 GMT
#220
On March 23 2011 07:23 Bobster wrote:
I updated the infamous list with those who are in.

Niice job uncovering the first 15, guys! :D


Thank you very much for the awesome list!! I would love to see a list showing top $ for each race. Its jokes how when checking it out, other pple click on the obvious funny stuff on that site like how much mc and fruitdealer made and how july's elo is higher than mc.
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