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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#1541
On March 27 2011 05:34 jlm24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:18 nvs. wrote:
Just like the Koreans are currently dominating TSL? Give me a break.


The point is everyone THOUGHT they were going to. Just because they aren't doesn't mean people didn't think they were going to going into the tournament.

But they aren't dominating. So stop whining. You are stirring shit up just for the sake of doing it. People are being shown that the gap is pretty tight between the two scenes. Plus everyone is saying "lag is such an issue". If it is, then they dont belong in the NASL. If people are going to consistently make excuses for koreans losing, then maybe we should eliminate that opportunity and just not invite them to events outside korea.


^
Smartest thing said in this whole thread

It's not? The arguments are about the top 50 players in the world getting invited, most of the Korean players that applied are in the top 50 atm, even then I could understand only inviting like 10 of them to keep it even. But if you do that, you should also invite the top of NA/EU, and most people do not believe that Vibe/MomaN etc are in that.
I understand NeverExpo defending his teammate getting chosen, but I don't think he has proven himself enough yet.
It appears I have been chosen.
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
March 26 2011 20:59 GMT
#1542
On March 27 2011 05:48 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:34 jlm24 wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:18 nvs. wrote:
Just like the Koreans are currently dominating TSL? Give me a break.


The point is everyone THOUGHT they were going to. Just because they aren't doesn't mean people didn't think they were going to going into the tournament.

But they aren't dominating. So stop whining. You are stirring shit up just for the sake of doing it. People are being shown that the gap is pretty tight between the two scenes. Plus everyone is saying "lag is such an issue". If it is, then they dont belong in the NASL. If people are going to consistently make excuses for koreans losing, then maybe we should eliminate that opportunity and just not invite them to events outside korea.


^
Smartest thing said in this whole thread

It's not? The arguments are about the top 50 players in the world getting invited, most of the Korean players that applied are in the top 50 atm, even then I could understand only inviting like 10 of them to keep it even. But if you do that, you should also invite the top of NA/EU, and most people do not believe that Vibe/MomaN etc are in that.
I understand NeverExpo defending his teammate getting chosen, but I don't think he has proven himself enough yet.


You guys keep mentioning that ViBE doesn't deserve a spot in NASL, however, he gained over 12k votes... Those votes clearly indicate that people want to see him in NASL.
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
March 26 2011 20:59 GMT
#1543
On March 27 2011 05:59 YoonHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:48 Fyzar wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:34 jlm24 wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:18 nvs. wrote:
Just like the Koreans are currently dominating TSL? Give me a break.


The point is everyone THOUGHT they were going to. Just because they aren't doesn't mean people didn't think they were going to going into the tournament.

But they aren't dominating. So stop whining. You are stirring shit up just for the sake of doing it. People are being shown that the gap is pretty tight between the two scenes. Plus everyone is saying "lag is such an issue". If it is, then they dont belong in the NASL. If people are going to consistently make excuses for koreans losing, then maybe we should eliminate that opportunity and just not invite them to events outside korea.


^
Smartest thing said in this whole thread

It's not? The arguments are about the top 50 players in the world getting invited, most of the Korean players that applied are in the top 50 atm, even then I could understand only inviting like 10 of them to keep it even. But if you do that, you should also invite the top of NA/EU, and most people do not believe that Vibe/MomaN etc are in that.
I understand NeverExpo defending his teammate getting chosen, but I don't think he has proven himself enough yet.


You guys keep mentioning that ViBE doesn't deserve a spot in NASL, however, he gained over 12k votes... Those votes clearly indicate that people want to see him in NASL.



Voting was rigged.
"En taro adun, Executor."
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 21:02:38
March 26 2011 21:00 GMT
#1544
All the top NA/EU players have absolutely been invited or will be invited assuming they applied in the first place. Obviously there's some subjective involved, however, especially once you move past the top 20 or 30.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 21:01:41
March 26 2011 21:00 GMT
#1545
How disappointing that DIMAGA is pretty much denied a spot because his video was a day or two late. He's basically top 5 Zerg outside of Korea and the list of Zergs accepted so far is uninspiring in comparison with the P and T.

Here's hoping that the next Zerg invites include Morrow/Ret or some established Koreans.
Momildo
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil93 Posts
March 26 2011 21:01 GMT
#1546
On March 27 2011 05:20 Chriscras wrote:
We aren't claiming that Koreans are dominating!!

It's that the NASL preemptively believed that Koreans WOULD dominate and therefore didn't allow them to play in the tournament.

That's just wrong on so many levels... If you can't understand that, then you don't value watching a world class tournament like the TSL or the GSL over the joke that the NASL may quickly become.


When and where did NASL state that belief exactly?
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
March 26 2011 21:02 GMT
#1547
On March 27 2011 06:00 Resilient wrote:
How disappointing that DIMAGA is pretty much denied a spot because his video was a day or two late. He's basically top 5 Zerg outside of Korea and the list of Zergs accepted so far is uninspiring in comparison with the P and T.

Here's hoping that the next Zerg invites include Morrow/Ret or some established Koreans.



Dimaga is ofically out =[ man that sucks, but I guess that happens if your one man team doesnt have appointed coach or manager.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
March 26 2011 21:03 GMT
#1548
On March 27 2011 05:59 Chriscras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:59 YoonHo wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:48 Fyzar wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:34 jlm24 wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:18 nvs. wrote:
Just like the Koreans are currently dominating TSL? Give me a break.


The point is everyone THOUGHT they were going to. Just because they aren't doesn't mean people didn't think they were going to going into the tournament.

But they aren't dominating. So stop whining. You are stirring shit up just for the sake of doing it. People are being shown that the gap is pretty tight between the two scenes. Plus everyone is saying "lag is such an issue". If it is, then they dont belong in the NASL. If people are going to consistently make excuses for koreans losing, then maybe we should eliminate that opportunity and just not invite them to events outside korea.


^
Smartest thing said in this whole thread

It's not? The arguments are about the top 50 players in the world getting invited, most of the Korean players that applied are in the top 50 atm, even then I could understand only inviting like 10 of them to keep it even. But if you do that, you should also invite the top of NA/EU, and most people do not believe that Vibe/MomaN etc are in that.
I understand NeverExpo defending his teammate getting chosen, but I don't think he has proven himself enough yet.


You guys keep mentioning that ViBE doesn't deserve a spot in NASL, however, he gained over 12k votes... Those votes clearly indicate that people want to see him in NASL.



Voting was rigged.

ViBE's votes were rigged? You sure? Xeris said that he got the serverhosts of the poll check on the voting system to see if they were being hacked or w/e. They took off all the "dishonest" votes, which belonged mostly to avilo. I dont really see why u think this happened to everyone..
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 21:07:26
March 26 2011 21:04 GMT
#1549
I follow sc2 really closely, never even heard of Vibe.

Also the guy making the groups are doing a pretty horrible job. Todays best player announced was prob dewbie, and he also went into group 5......
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 21:07:41
March 26 2011 21:06 GMT
#1550
On March 27 2011 05:59 YoonHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:48 Fyzar wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:34 jlm24 wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:18 nvs. wrote:
Just like the Koreans are currently dominating TSL? Give me a break.


The point is everyone THOUGHT they were going to. Just because they aren't doesn't mean people didn't think they were going to going into the tournament.

But they aren't dominating. So stop whining. You are stirring shit up just for the sake of doing it. People are being shown that the gap is pretty tight between the two scenes. Plus everyone is saying "lag is such an issue". If it is, then they dont belong in the NASL. If people are going to consistently make excuses for koreans losing, then maybe we should eliminate that opportunity and just not invite them to events outside korea.


^
Smartest thing said in this whole thread

It's not? The arguments are about the top 50 players in the world getting invited, most of the Korean players that applied are in the top 50 atm, even then I could understand only inviting like 10 of them to keep it even. But if you do that, you should also invite the top of NA/EU, and most people do not believe that Vibe/MomaN etc are in that.
I understand NeverExpo defending his teammate getting chosen, but I don't think he has proven himself enough yet.


You guys keep mentioning that ViBE doesn't deserve a spot in NASL, however, he gained over 12k votes... Those votes clearly indicate that people want to see him in NASL.


So you'd heard of him? Because I've watch and played SC2 daily since the beta, and I've no idea what race he plays, where he's from, or what team he's on.

Where's

DESTINY... Minigun?

I don't think it matters.... NASL has crushed my hopes with today's picks.

That plus.... the fact that FXOpen had an AMAZING international lineup last night... without 2 months of hype, makes me realize that I'm going to get what I want anyways.... just not from NASL :D

The ONLY thing that is making NASL everyone wet dream is the prize money.. as a tournament and a production it is just on par with what else is already out there.

FXO is gonna crush NASL.....



www.KoshkaTV.com
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 21:09:50
March 26 2011 21:07 GMT
#1551
On March 27 2011 06:04 Pekkz wrote:
I follow sc2 really closely, never even heard of Vibe.


That's really funny. You're either lying about one of the two. Even all the people arguing that ViBE doesn't deserve a spot are implying that they have heard of ViBe before.

Edit: I'm out of this thread lol. We're just all wasting time if we continue to argue.
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 21:10:19
March 26 2011 21:09 GMT
#1552
On March 27 2011 06:07 YoonHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 06:04 Pekkz wrote:
I follow sc2 really closely, never even heard of Vibe.


That's really funny. You're either lying about one of the two. Even all the people arguing that ViBE doesn't deserve a spot are implying that they have heard of ViBe before.

Well, tbh I've only vaguely heard of him, if you'd ask me what race he plays, I'd be absolutely clueless.
If he's a NA player that could somewhat explain it, I guess. Even then I know guys like Minigun/Drewbie etc.
It appears I have been chosen.
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 21:20:26
March 26 2011 21:10 GMT
#1553
On March 27 2011 05:20 Chriscras wrote:
We aren't claiming that Koreans are dominating!!

It's that the NASL preemptively believed that Koreans WOULD dominate and therefore didn't allow them to play in the tournament.

That's just wrong on so many levels... If you can't understand that, then you don't value watching a world class tournament like the TSL or the GSL over the joke that the NASL may quickly become.

You are clearly not very well informed on this subject.

On SotG Russel from nasl said that the reasons for limiting korean player participation were primarily latency. And I think the TSL has convincingly proven latency is indeed a huge issue for an online tournament.

It's amazing how hard it is for some people to grasp this.


Why would the lag in Korea be any more difficult to overcome than the lag from Europe.

Why? Distance perhaps, lack of infrastructure or whatever. I don't know the specifics but it is a fact that NA to Europe barely lags at all while korea to NA or EU both lag considerably.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
odder
Profile Joined April 2010
United States405 Posts
March 26 2011 21:16 GMT
#1554
I am shocked that Dimaga wasn't even sent an invite
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 26 2011 21:17 GMT
#1555
Goody is going to get into this tournament, + Show Spoiler +
beating NesTea
what the hell ;P!
It appears I have been chosen.
Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
March 26 2011 21:20 GMT
#1556
So glad Artosis got in!!!

Artosis hwaiting!!!!
nebiki
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany69 Posts
March 26 2011 21:28 GMT
#1557
am i the only one who isn't hyped at all about NASL? watching koreans play is so much more fun.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 21:31:56
March 26 2011 21:31 GMT
#1558
On March 27 2011 06:10 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:20 Chriscras wrote:
We aren't claiming that Koreans are dominating!!

It's that the NASL preemptively believed that Koreans WOULD dominate and therefore didn't allow them to play in the tournament.

That's just wrong on so many levels... If you can't understand that, then you don't value watching a world class tournament like the TSL or the GSL over the joke that the NASL may quickly become.

You are clearly not very well informed on this subject.

On SotG Russel from nasl said that the reasons for limiting korean player participation were primarily latency. And I think the TSL has convincingly proven latency is indeed a huge issue for an online tournament.

It's amazing how hard it is for some people to grasp this.


Show nested quote +
Why would the lag in Korea be any more difficult to overcome than the lag from Europe.

Why? Distance perhaps, lack of infrastructure or whatever. I don't know the specifics but it is a fact that NA to Europe barely lags at all while korea to NA or EU both lag considerably.


Listen, its not about inviting Koreans. Everyone who says you shouldn't invite ANY Koreans is clearly being disingenuous about hosting a tournament with the best players "in the world."

The problem with NASL - as of the first 35 picks - is that the only Koreans announced have been Moon and Ace. They were clearly picked because of their success at IEM, but why pick Koreans based on a IEM and not based on their placement in the GSL (Ace and Moon fell out of Code A).

It's because NASL either is uninformed about who the best Koreans are or are DELIBERATELY holding back the number of WORLD CLASS Koreans in order to direct the final 16 to heavily favor NA and EU players.

That's just wrong and reflects poorly on how the overall tournament is going to be run.
"En taro adun, Executor."
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
March 26 2011 21:31 GMT
#1559
On March 27 2011 06:28 nebiki wrote:
am i the only one who isn't hyped at all about NASL? watching koreans play is so much more fun.


Why is that?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45090 Posts
March 26 2011 21:33 GMT
#1560
I hope we see Minigun and another few top Koreans
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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