EPTJust like the Koreans are currently dominating TSL? Give me a break.
The point is everyone THOUGHT they were going to. Just because they aren't doesn't mean people didn't think they were going to going into the tournament.
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
The point is everyone THOUGHT they were going to. Just because they aren't doesn't mean people didn't think they were going to going into the tournament. | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
It's that the NASL preemptively believed that Koreans WOULD dominate and therefore didn't allow them to play in the tournament. That's just wrong on so many levels... If you can't understand that, then you don't value watching a world class tournament like the TSL or the GSL over the joke that the NASL may quickly become. | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:15 Inky87 wrote: If anyone thinks that anyone on that list doesn't deserve to be in NASL, you don't know the players well if at all. Stop crying about nothing. they do bring for epic games, and the feeling a non-korean wins is just awesome! I was standing up cheering for + Show Spoiler + adelscott and qxc Not something i can see myself doing for the games in the NASL. They asked in the application video's for rivalry's, well the best rivalry possible is the NA/EU vs Korea. I am not a korean fanboy, but i do like to see them in the league and that NA/EU players crush them!!! Now the league is really looking rather bleak, at first i thought they saved the best players for last, but now im starting to wonder if they started with inviting the best players and just going downhill from there. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:22 Duravi wrote: Nobody is doubting that the top EU/NA players can compete with and beat the top Koreans. All people are saying is we want to see the top EU/NA AND Koreans compete in the league. Exactly, thank you! | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:18 Fyzar wrote: Isn't that the problem? I don't know who Stalife is at all, never heard of the guy, that's bad? I don't put someone that I've never heard of in the top 50 in the world, or in the top 50 of foreigners. If they really do move away from inviting a lot of Koreans, they still haven't invited the best of NA/EU representatives. (In my opinion, I might have been living under a rock) Stalife is really solid and capable of competing with the best from what I've seen from his stream a few times. When this thing starts, I have no doubt we'll see the true skill of each player considering how the brackets play out where everyone plays everyone in their group. You'll probably become a new fan of someone you don't know much about ^_^ | ||
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NrG.NeverExpo
Canada2114 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:18 nvs. wrote: The point is everyone THOUGHT they were going to. Just because they aren't doesn't mean people didn't think they were going to going into the tournament. But they aren't dominating. So stop whining. You are stirring shit up just for the sake of doing it. People are being shown that the gap is pretty tight between the two scenes. Plus everyone is saying "lag is such an issue". If it is, then they dont belong in the NASL. If people are going to consistently make excuses for koreans losing, then maybe we should eliminate that opportunity and just not invite them to events outside korea. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
The list updated once more. | ||
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:20 Chriscras wrote: We aren't claiming that Koreans are dominating!! It's that the NASL preemptively believed that Koreans WOULD dominate and therefore didn't allow them to play in the tournament. That's just wrong on so many levels... If you can't understand that, then you don't value watching a world class tournament like the TSL or the GSL over the joke that the NASL may quickly become. You're assuming a lot here. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:23 Mithriel wrote: Just realised, the positive side of this is i at least know what premium services to get. At first i was thinking between MLG or NASL, but NASL is helping me make the decision at least. Yup, same here. The MLG lineup just can't compare. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:18 Fyzar wrote: Isn't that the problem? I don't know who Stalife is at all, never heard of the guy, that's bad? I don't put someone that I've never heard of in the top 50 in the world, or in the top 50 of foreigners. If they really do move away from inviting a lot of Koreans, they still haven't invited the best of NA/EU representatives. (In my opinion, I might have been living under a rock) I just wanted to critisize your post, as I have done several times with people that critisize the NASL invites. I usually do that because it is higly subjective who you regard as the best players. But before doing that I looked at the NASL page. Moman, Vibe, Stalife. Wat? I think there is no way one could argue that these 3 players are among the top 50, even when just looking at foreigners. No matter how subjective these things are. I am honestly confused now and just dont know what to say. | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:24 Inky87 wrote: Stalife is really solid and capable of competing with the best from what I've seen from his stream a few times. When this thing starts, I have no doubt we'll see the true skill of each player considering how the brackets play out where everyone plays everyone in their group. You'll probably become a new fan of someone you don't know much about ^_^ Becoming a new fan is cool, but I still don't think he should be in, at the moment I'd not consider him top 50 in the world, if he can qualify and then impress, yes I might've been wrong. Also, stream = ladder right? Probably not really capable of judging his tournament play from that. I don't want to bash on these guys, but I don't know about their accomplishments, and I don't want half of the tournament to be one-sided stomping. | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:30 Redox wrote: I just wanted to critisize your post, as I have done several times with people that critisize the NASL invites. I usually do that because it is higly subjective who you regard as the best players. But before doing that I looked at the NASL page. Moman, Vibe, Stalife. Wat? I think there is no way one could argue that these 3 players are among the top 50, even when just looking at foreigners. No matter how subjective these things are. I am honestly confused now and just dont know what to say. Yeah indeed, I'm no whiner usually, but it really just confuses me. The 5-by-5 thing also isn't working for me, but that's my opinion there. | ||
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Jungosi
Germany186 Posts
I share your worries about Goody making the cut. If the next 15 players are like really, really exceptional (read Koreans) I'd be fine with Goody not making it but with the current line-up not so much. | ||
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jlm24
United States5 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote: But they aren't dominating. So stop whining. You are stirring shit up just for the sake of doing it. People are being shown that the gap is pretty tight between the two scenes. Plus everyone is saying "lag is such an issue". If it is, then they dont belong in the NASL. If people are going to consistently make excuses for koreans losing, then maybe we should eliminate that opportunity and just not invite them to events outside korea. ^ Smartest thing said in this whole thread | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote: But they aren't dominating. So stop whining. You are stirring shit up just for the sake of doing it. People are being shown that the gap is pretty tight between the two scenes. Plus everyone is saying "lag is such an issue". If it is, then they dont belong in the NASL. If people are going to consistently make excuses for koreans losing, then maybe we should eliminate that opportunity and just not invite them to events outside korea. Just to set things straight, everyone who is arguing Koreans shouldn't be invited to tournaments is also arguing that they don't want to see Koreans get stomped by NA, EU players. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
It's a shame tho. I'd love to have at least some Koreans in the NASL. But if everyone is just going to complain about lag everytime a Korean loses like the TSL, I'm not sure it'll be good for the tournament. | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
On March 26 2011 10:29 Alkior wrote: I dont think jinro is participating due to gsl. Yeah I realized that after I wrote it. Still GoOdy would be way more interesting to watch then like Brat_ok who might get a factory, but only if he plans on getting Medivacs or wants more bio upgrades. Not to hate on Brat_ok because he's great, it's just that as a Terran player mass bio gets boring to watch over and over. | ||
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VeryAverage
United States424 Posts
Because I want nothing more than Artosis vs Day[9] (I think Artosis feels the same) | ||
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