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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
March 27 2011 23:13 GMT
#1981
Some of the names are very disappointing. I'm still pretty excited, but less than before. Time will tell, I guess.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 27 2011 23:16 GMT
#1982
My biggest concern right now is the 2 month group play 5 days a week. It just seems like so much, and with a player pool that isn't so different from the random showmatches and other stuff you can catch on a given night, it might get a bit tiresome. And then after watching some dudes bat .500 in their group they are invited back for the next season.

Plus that's a whole lotta /commercial
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
March 27 2011 23:19 GMT
#1983
its going to be awesome to watch and the player quality seems akin to an mlg or iem. its not the best players in the world, but only one tournament can really boast that it has the best in the world.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
March 27 2011 23:23 GMT
#1984
I for one things its reasonable to add Artosis and Grubby because of their popularity. If nothing else they might fall out if they dont cut it. But given some of the other names they really shouldnt be considered lesser players than the rest.
Valefort
Profile Joined December 2010
France228 Posts
March 27 2011 23:23 GMT
#1985
Divison 5 is just absolutely insane.
ttomelle
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden243 Posts
March 27 2011 23:34 GMT
#1986
On March 28 2011 07:22 nvs. wrote:

Show nested quote +
thats my point. everyones saying its Biased towards EG? for what reason....because iNcontrol is casting? doesn't make sense to me.


incontrol is involved in more than just casting.


ah so thats why hes in.i understand that now
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
March 27 2011 23:35 GMT
#1987
On March 28 2011 08:13 Nimic wrote:
Some of the names are very disappointing. I'm still pretty excited, but less than before. Time will tell, I guess.

Disappointing? I think it is an excellent group of people. I cannot wait for it.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
March 27 2011 23:38 GMT
#1988
On March 28 2011 08:35 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 08:13 Nimic wrote:
Some of the names are very disappointing. I'm still pretty excited, but less than before. Time will tell, I guess.

Disappointing? I think it is an excellent group of people. I cannot wait for it.


Most of the names are very good, yes. Which is why I said I'm still pretty excited. But some of the names are debatable. Mainly some of the NA names. It was to be expected, I suppose, but it's still a little bit disappointing to think of the players who won't be in this.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
March 27 2011 23:40 GMT
#1989
If I understand the format there will be 25 games a week for 9 weeks. So we have 225 games.

I can't wait til we reach weeks 7,8,9 as that is when it will be tight for 1st and 2nd place to advance to top 16 and we will also have the fight for 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th in each group to advance to the tournament for the last 6 spots.

Should be an awesome league with awesome players, playing awesome games.
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Jikz
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden6 Posts
March 27 2011 23:45 GMT
#1990
On March 28 2011 08:13 Nimic wrote:
Some of the names are very disappointing. I'm still pretty excited, but less than before. Time will tell, I guess.
Without sounding too biased im 100% with you on this one, why arent more or less all the topnotch korean players chosen yet? I really hate to sound like a douche but im pretty sure that it'd meet up to the fans expectations of NASL and also higher the entertainment value by miles, again I do understand that NASL only is in beta phase more or less but the hype about it would definitely be way higher with names likes MC, boxer, nada etc etc. Just my 2 cents, please no hate! :D
Shackadeemus
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 23:52:28
March 27 2011 23:52 GMT
#1991
I guess it's just a coincidence that for each of the 5 groups so far, they all have 1 EG member. I really don't like this. I also don't like the fact that they've hardly invited ANY Koreans. If they don't accept oGsMC's application and put him in group 6 my brain will explode!
Pirate-bird ftw.
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
March 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#1992
On March 28 2011 08:52 Shackadeemus wrote:
I guess it's just a coincidence that for each of the 5 groups so far, they all have 1 EG member. I really don't like this. I also don't like the fact that they've hardly invited ANY Koreans. If they don't accept oGsMC's application and put him in group 6 my brain will explode!


Groups are likely set up to avoid team kills. I'd wait the next two days before saying there aren't any korean invites. Pretty sure Boxer is a shoe-in from what Xeris has said.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 28 2011 00:03 GMT
#1993
On March 28 2011 07:46 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
People get up in arms about the voting process, saying they don't want the league to be a popularity contest and that they want good games to come from it, this leads the league to respond saying that the player selection process will be "On Results and a bunch of mystery voodoo stuff while the voting plays a small part" People get up in arms about the voting process, saying they don't want the league to be a popularity contest and that they want good games to come from it, this leads the league to respond saying that the player selection process will be "On Results and a bunch of mystery voodoo stuff while the voting plays a small part"


The selection process was always results and popularity. We're pretty confident that we've never deviated from that stance, nor has anyone said anything contrary to that.

Show nested quote +
Choices like Grubby/Axslav/Artosis/PainUser just make you scratch your head. Now, don't get all nerdy and sperg out on me and start getting upset that I'm insulting your favorite players. I know Grubby from his War3 days and Artosis is by far one of the best commentators in the sport, but what have either of the two done to get an invite?


PainUser, 3rd at MLG Dallas, 1st at Green Forest. He has no results. Axslav has been very, very good lately. Grubby & Artosis... Think about what we've stated our criteria will be: results and, popularity. What is there to scratch your head over?

Show nested quote +
"We are really proud of our website" was said on a state of the game, and when it was released the community hated it and now the websites "real" release will be out in April. Heres the announcement of the announcement with a show match to create excitement for the announcement turns into "The Clash was a stand-alone event that is not connected to the NASL"


NASL.tv was never our website. Our website is going to be launched next week, you'll be able to see it shortly.



We've listened to the community quite a bit. However, that doesn't mean we are going to change every little thing just because someone doesn't like it. Ultimately, we are very confident in what we're doing. We believe it's going to be great, and we believe that a LOT of people will be incredibly satisfied with what our end product will be.

If anyone has concerns, that's fine... you know how to contact me, and I always respond to the forums.


Allow me to keep my concerns, you were all also pretty confident the showmatch was awesome. Really, it wasn't. Even though I don't agree with everything the other poster said in his post, I think we agree on the real subject: The way things have been shaping up, ever since the millions of announcements of announcements, has just been flawed all along, popularity contest, player selection, website production values, showmatch quality, even the hype video are all of questionable value and quality. Hopefully the tournament itself will boast high levels of fun and production, and quality games, it's all we want.

Considering the whole "NASL background" up to now, I'm concerned as to how it's gonna turn out. At least this whole time we've had TSL3, which has an incredibly simple layout and features, yet it's production values are a whole notch above what we've seen from NASL. The way they hyped the tournament is hopefully teaching NASL some lessons. I don't know, they just seem to know what this community wants, and how to execute it correctly.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 00:08:42
March 28 2011 00:08 GMT
#1994
vibe, grubby, artosis and moman do not deserve a place concerning their skill-lvl.

i hope for 5 korean invites in the tomorrow - demuslim still missing.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
March 28 2011 00:09 GMT
#1995
On March 28 2011 07:53 esaul17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 07:47 Wargizmo wrote:

It's obvious the GSL players weren't invited because they'd probably not be able to make the finals. Given this, what players should be in here that aren't already? I'm genuinely curious because there's a lot of bitching but people don't seem to be coming up with any names other than the top Code S koreans who were obviously left out for a pretty good reason.



They applied. What right do the NASL people to have to call them liars who won't show up?


They have every right, it's their tournament. What if NASL got in contact with GOM and it was GOM who told them the schedules would clash? Obviously there's a reason the only Koreans who are being invited are those not playing in the GSL.

It's a big risk for NASL if half the players who make it through to the finals may not even show up, can't blame them for taking the safe route.




Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#1996
With the lag issues/koreans getting crushed in TSL do we really want to see koreans in North American events?

This is the North American Starleague I don't know why people would be disappointed if many koreans don't get invited.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 00:18:24
March 28 2011 00:12 GMT
#1997
On March 28 2011 09:10 LuckyFool wrote:
With the lag issues/koreans getting crushed in TSL do we really want to see koreans in North American events?

This is the North American Starleague I don't know why people would be disappointed if many koreans don't get invited.



so they should be replaced by people who get crushed even without lag? sounds good



On March 28 2011 09:08 DiaBoLuS wrote:
vibe, grubby, artosis and moman do not deserve a place concerning their skill-lvl.

i hope for 5 korean invites in the tomorrow - demuslim still missing.


i think they got invited due to their fanbase, which is ofcourse important for a league, except for vibe. i had to look up who he was, anyone know of something hes won?
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
March 28 2011 00:16 GMT
#1998
I really think the organizers here are missing some of the larger messages. Changing some particulars like the team cap is good, but there is a bigger issue. They say a lot of things to the effect of "haters gonna hate," which is true of course - you can't please everyone on the internet - but all the threads about the NASL have a huge number of critical comments - way beyond what happens in threads on any other league. And while MLG threads have negative comments about the extended series rule or some other particular, the NASL threads have negative comments about all sorts of different things. Clearly there's something being done wrong in the NASL organization, and that doesn't seem to have sunk in.

It was clear to many commenters, including myself, that any invitational system for a tournament like this is going to result in a huge amount of criticism and charges of favoritism regardless of who is picked. Add to that some questionable picks and the fact that several people in the organization have team affiliations and there's no way you could possibly avoid it. And yet, they actually seem surprised by the level of criticism.

They seem to be constantly using legalistic interpretations of things they said to pretend like nothing is misleading. Xeris, you said something in some other thread to the effect of the criteria for being chosen being "1. results 2. results 3. results, and 4. popularity" (not exact quote). That makes it sound like popularity is a minor, tie-breaking concern. You also advertise having the best players in the world. To then pick Grubby, who has zero results, and respond with "we never said we wouldn't use popularity" is misleading to say the least. It's not technically a contradiction, but it's not what a reasonable person hearing what you said would have expected. (This sort of legalistic loophole-finding has been evident in any number of issues regarding NASL, not just this.)

I was someone who originally probably would have paid for the HD/VOD thing, but that's definitely not happening now. I'll probably watch the free stream from time to time still, and I hope it succeeds, but my respect for the league has decreased substantially. It's great that the system for qualifying for future seasons is completely free of invites - given two or three seasons, that'll probably result in the tournament's legitimacy increasing substantially, and maybe then I'll become a more devoted fan.

I think the deepest fault in the mindset of NASL is not understanding what makes sports exciting. When the Red Sox played the Yankees in the World Series, that was a big enough deal that even I, who care nothing at all about baseball, watched two or three games. When the Red Sox and the Yankees play an exhibition match, people are mildly entertained, but no one cares very much. The reason is that the World Series title itself has a lot of respect associated with it, so people find a fight over it very dramatic. It's not good enough to just put good/interesting players/teams in games against each other and cast them well. If that's all you're doing, it will never be more popular than Husky's youtube account. It's the legitimacy of the tournament that makes people care. To a certain extent you can substitute a big prize pool for legitimacy, but that only goes so far, and what I've seen so far doesn't convince me that the people behind NASL understand the importance of this legitimacy or how to get it.
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
March 28 2011 00:16 GMT
#1999
I'm really hoping for more Koreans. Maybe not even the top notch (Nestea MC etc) people but guys like Supernova or something. There are certainly some names I disagree with but there are people in Code S who I don't think deserve it so that's okay. I think it's shaping up to be really good, and with all of the money going in I can't think that it'll be anything but awesome.
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
March 28 2011 00:17 GMT
#2000
On March 28 2011 09:03 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 07:46 Xeris wrote:
People get up in arms about the voting process, saying they don't want the league to be a popularity contest and that they want good games to come from it, this leads the league to respond saying that the player selection process will be "On Results and a bunch of mystery voodoo stuff while the voting plays a small part" People get up in arms about the voting process, saying they don't want the league to be a popularity contest and that they want good games to come from it, this leads the league to respond saying that the player selection process will be "On Results and a bunch of mystery voodoo stuff while the voting plays a small part"


The selection process was always results and popularity. We're pretty confident that we've never deviated from that stance, nor has anyone said anything contrary to that.

Choices like Grubby/Axslav/Artosis/PainUser just make you scratch your head. Now, don't get all nerdy and sperg out on me and start getting upset that I'm insulting your favorite players. I know Grubby from his War3 days and Artosis is by far one of the best commentators in the sport, but what have either of the two done to get an invite?


PainUser, 3rd at MLG Dallas, 1st at Green Forest. He has no results. Axslav has been very, very good lately. Grubby & Artosis... Think about what we've stated our criteria will be: results and, popularity. What is there to scratch your head over?

"We are really proud of our website" was said on a state of the game, and when it was released the community hated it and now the websites "real" release will be out in April. Heres the announcement of the announcement with a show match to create excitement for the announcement turns into "The Clash was a stand-alone event that is not connected to the NASL"


NASL.tv was never our website. Our website is going to be launched next week, you'll be able to see it shortly.



We've listened to the community quite a bit. However, that doesn't mean we are going to change every little thing just because someone doesn't like it. Ultimately, we are very confident in what we're doing. We believe it's going to be great, and we believe that a LOT of people will be incredibly satisfied with what our end product will be.

If anyone has concerns, that's fine... you know how to contact me, and I always respond to the forums.


Allow me to keep my concerns, you were all also pretty confident the showmatch was awesome. Really, it wasn't. Even though I don't agree with everything the other poster said in his post, I think we agree on the real subject: The way things have been shaping up, ever since the millions of announcements of announcements, has just been flawed all along, popularity contest, player selection, website production values, showmatch quality, even the hype video are all of questionable value and quality. Hopefully the tournament itself will boast high levels of fun and production, and quality games, it's all we want.

Considering the whole "NASL background" up to now, I'm concerned as to how it's gonna turn out. At least this whole time we've had TSL3, which has an incredibly simple layout and features, yet it's production values are a whole notch above what we've seen from NASL. The way they hyped the tournament is hopefully teaching NASL some lessons. I don't know, they just seem to know what this community wants, and how to execute it correctly.


"I'm comparing something that has happened to something that hasn't happened yet. I think it's going to be bad because these unrelated things were not to my liking."
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