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Any balance whining/complaining/bad manner shit of ANY SORT is automatic temp ban.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
March 16 2011 18:06 GMT
#1821
On March 17 2011 02:29 flyguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 02:25 Talin wrote:
I always love it when people overrate the latest GSL winner EVERY time.

One season wonder, as were the others before him.



What about MC?


And Nestea. I don't think the guy who posted this is entirely with it :/
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 16 2011 18:07 GMT
#1822
You also can't rule out the curse of the MarineKing, the harder you roll MKP the more you get screwed in the following season. Here's the proof (j/k but srs at the same time).

- Nestea beats him in Season 2: 4-3 in the finals -> Close series, Nestea merely gets a surprise beat by Rain in Round of 8/
- Kyrix beats him 2-0 in All-Stars Finals -> Only a Bo3, but if MKP doesn't get at least a game off, it's wrath time -> Kyrix eliminated next season in Round of 64.
- MC beats him 3-1 in Round of 8 Season 3: 3-1 -> Not bad, but MC gets 2-0'd by Jinro in the following season at the Round of 16 to what was a shock at the time.
- Mvp rolls in GSL4: 4-0 -> MVP goes 1-2 in Groups, and now 1-4 in up/down and is in Code A.

- sCfou, you're next.
the farm ends here
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
March 16 2011 18:10 GMT
#1823
On March 17 2011 02:33 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 02:19 Zoia wrote:
Eh MVP code A is w/e not that huge of an upset so get over it. He played kind of silly in his games so everything was on him. Also stop saying this game is so volatile it is the same as BW and every other competive game out there. Players are volatile not the game.



How did he play silly the second game vs Genius, its pretty much standard bio and it gets fucking rolled by mass stalker colossus.

Koreans need to refine mech because bio just has no hope.


He lost 1/3 of his army before being able to get his vikings in position, because Genius unexpectedly hit him from the side. We've seen bio/viking vs. colossus ball battles go the other way plenty of times before, it all comes down to the engagement.
Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
March 16 2011 18:10 GMT
#1824
On March 17 2011 03:07 PartyBiscuit wrote:
You also can't rule out the curse of the MarineKing, the harder you roll MKP the more you get screwed in the following season. Here's the proof (j/k but srs at the same time).

- Nestea beats him in Season 2: 4-3 in the finals -> Close series, Nestea merely gets a surprise beat by Rain in Round of 8/
- Kyrix beats him 2-0 in All-Stars Finals -> Only a Bo3, but if MKP doesn't get at least a game off, it's wrath time -> Kyrix eliminated next season in Round of 64.
- MC beats him 3-1 in Round of 8 Season 3: 3-1 -> Not bad, but MC gets 2-0'd by Jinro in the following season at the Round of 16 to what was a shock at the time.
- Mvp rolls in GSL4: 4-0 -> MVP goes 1-2 in Groups, and now 1-4 in up/down and is in Code A.

- sCfou, you're next.


And the same MC is going to win this GSL, your point?
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 16 2011 18:11 GMT
#1825
On March 17 2011 03:10 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 03:07 PartyBiscuit wrote:
You also can't rule out the curse of the MarineKing, the harder you roll MKP the more you get screwed in the following season. Here's the proof (j/k but srs at the same time).

- Nestea beats him in Season 2: 4-3 in the finals -> Close series, Nestea merely gets a surprise beat by Rain in Round of 8/
- Kyrix beats him 2-0 in All-Stars Finals -> Only a Bo3, but if MKP doesn't get at least a game off, it's wrath time -> Kyrix eliminated next season in Round of 64.
- MC beats him 3-1 in Round of 8 Season 3: 3-1 -> Not bad, but MC gets 2-0'd by Jinro in the following season at the Round of 16 to what was a shock at the time.
- Mvp rolls in GSL4: 4-0 -> MVP goes 1-2 in Groups, and now 1-4 in up/down and is in Code A.

- sCfou, you're next.


And the same MC is going to win this GSL, your point?


Learn to read please... he said following season.
The Notorious Winkles
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 16 2011 18:12 GMT
#1826
On March 17 2011 03:10 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 03:07 PartyBiscuit wrote:
You also can't rule out the curse of the MarineKing, the harder you roll MKP the more you get screwed in the following season. Here's the proof (j/k but srs at the same time).

- Nestea beats him in Season 2: 4-3 in the finals -> Close series, Nestea merely gets a surprise beat by Rain in Round of 8/
- Kyrix beats him 2-0 in All-Stars Finals -> Only a Bo3, but if MKP doesn't get at least a game off, it's wrath time -> Kyrix eliminated next season in Round of 64.
- MC beats him 3-1 in Round of 8 Season 3: 3-1 -> Not bad, but MC gets 2-0'd by Jinro in the following season at the Round of 16 to what was a shock at the time.
- Mvp rolls in GSL4: 4-0 -> MVP goes 1-2 in Groups, and now 1-4 in up/down and is in Code A.

- sCfou, you're next.


And the same MC is going to win this GSL, your point?

1. It's a joke. 2. It only applies to the proceeding season. Curses and spooks don't last more than 1 season.
the farm ends here
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 16 2011 18:12 GMT
#1827
Interesting.

This is why I didn't have MVP advancing even past the Ro16 in my TSL brackets. Thought he'd been playing a little off lately.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
March 16 2011 18:12 GMT
#1828
On March 17 2011 03:10 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 03:07 PartyBiscuit wrote:
You also can't rule out the curse of the MarineKing, the harder you roll MKP the more you get screwed in the following season. Here's the proof (j/k but srs at the same time).

- Nestea beats him in Season 2: 4-3 in the finals -> Close series, Nestea merely gets a surprise beat by Rain in Round of 8/
- Kyrix beats him 2-0 in All-Stars Finals -> Only a Bo3, but if MKP doesn't get at least a game off, it's wrath time -> Kyrix eliminated next season in Round of 64.
- MC beats him 3-1 in Round of 8 Season 3: 3-1 -> Not bad, but MC gets 2-0'd by Jinro in the following season at the Round of 16 to what was a shock at the time.
- Mvp rolls in GSL4: 4-0 -> MVP goes 1-2 in Groups, and now 1-4 in up/down and is in Code A.

- sCfou, you're next.


And the same MC is going to win this GSL, your point?


Why do people like you always take things so literal?

It was obviously a joke post.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
March 16 2011 18:16 GMT
#1829
"Ya better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone, for the times, they are a-changin'" (Bob Dylan)
Listening to it now then I realized how it fits what happened today. MVP dropped the ball and also had some really shaky plays, the missed scans were just....It's apparently bad to hype any player too much.

"The first one now will later be last"
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
March 16 2011 18:21 GMT
#1830
MVP lost this fair and square, HE is NOT a GOD. I expected MVP to engage in good positions because that is his forte but guess I'm wrong. Like i said in past, he's so over rated which been proven in his performance today.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
March 16 2011 18:31 GMT
#1831
On March 17 2011 03:21 DarkRise wrote:
MVP lost this fair and square, HE is NOT a GOD. I expected MVP to engage in good positions because that is his forte but guess I'm wrong. Like i said in past, he's so over rated which been proven in his performance today.


he's not overrated in the slightest. everyone has days on tilt, it's beyond unfair to say "oh you played like total dogshit today, therefore you're just bad in general." remember how garbage mc was the first couple seasons? then he came up and just decided, "alright i'm not nervous anymore, time for everyone to lose."
The universe created an audience for itself.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 16 2011 18:33 GMT
#1832
lol, I expected MVP to lose this b/c Alicia's PvT is hella strong, and Genius is not a bad player. Ppl need to stop whining about balance in late game or big map, Genius didn't use Khaydarian amulet yet and still destroyed him with just colossus and stalkers, so think about the game before whining.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 16 2011 18:40 GMT
#1833
So excited to see Alicia in code S! Sad to see MVP dropping to code A )=
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 16 2011 18:58 GMT
#1834
It's funny that no real changes were made to the TvP matchup for months but Protoss were getting rolled in the GSL the first few seasons, the previous season was a huge terranfest and now all of the sudden Protosses are owning. It seems Protoss players have found new strategies while Terrans are still just going MMM Viking. It might take a little while (took 4 seasons for Protoss) but I'm sure they'll come up with new ways to play in TvP.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 16 2011 19:00 GMT
#1835
On March 17 2011 03:58 Logros wrote:
It's funny that no real changes were made to the TvP matchup for months but Protoss were getting rolled in the GSL the first few seasons, the previous season was a huge terranfest and now all of the sudden Protosses are owning. It seems Protoss players have found new strategies while Terrans are still just going MMM Viking. It might take a little while (took 4 seasons for Protoss) but I'm sure they'll come up with new ways to play in TvP.


The new maps have alot to do with it. Give terran some time and I'm sure they will figure out a way to adapt to this new gameplay.
The Notorious Winkles
Widar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 19:01:48
March 16 2011 19:01 GMT
#1836
Im not surprised about MVP, he seem to have been playing unusually bad this season
(from MVP standars that is, just clarifying for all the haters)
Fake it till you make it
traca
Profile Joined October 2010
146 Posts
March 16 2011 19:25 GMT
#1837
see how protoss players have game plan and stuff immvp should learn this a bit he knows his race has an advantage and count only on this sad because he s quiet good
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10338 Posts
March 16 2011 19:26 GMT
#1838
MVP in Code A? Haha another upset. Oh well, Slayers Alicia revenged the Slayers team and Boxer ! :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 16 2011 19:28 GMT
#1839
On March 17 2011 03:58 Logros wrote:
It's funny that no real changes were made to the TvP matchup for months but Protoss were getting rolled in the GSL the first few seasons, the previous season was a huge terranfest and now all of the sudden Protosses are owning. It seems Protoss players have found new strategies while Terrans are still just going MMM Viking. It might take a little while (took 4 seasons for Protoss) but I'm sure they'll come up with new ways to play in TvP.


How about a "no"? Timing attacks have changed, in S1 and S2 Protoss players were on the defense until that deathball was ready, now we have players knocking on the door with a stalker and zealots. Upgrades timings have been refined, notice how now every upgrade is just in time? In Season 3 we were amazed that HongUn had +1 attack and +1 defence before having a second base. Colossi balls? Yeah, the attack patterns have changed completely. In S1 and S2 people a+moved into the opponent, now people try to flank in order to avoid a concave. The matchup has changed completely, this season I think I've seen a ghost in every second TvP game (if not against templars then against sentries).
@
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
March 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#1840
On March 17 2011 04:00 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 03:58 Logros wrote:
It's funny that no real changes were made to the TvP matchup for months but Protoss were getting rolled in the GSL the first few seasons, the previous season was a huge terranfest and now all of the sudden Protosses are owning. It seems Protoss players have found new strategies while Terrans are still just going MMM Viking. It might take a little while (took 4 seasons for Protoss) but I'm sure they'll come up with new ways to play in TvP.


The new maps have alot to do with it. Give terran some time and I'm sure they will figure out a way to adapt to this new gameplay.


if it is the new maps why did alica OWN on xel naga? I wont disagree i do think the bigger maps help a lot, but the protoss play style has changed to a more aggressive state seeing how terrans have started to take shortcuts to get expansions up. Soon it will switch back when terrans learn to deal with it. Its a never ending dance of who owns who
No Artosis, you are robin
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