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SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
April 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#2541
broodlords is a much better alternative than infestors. infestors is good in mid game, but then you have to do alot of damage to be able to go into late game ahead. However they do not win you any games late game vs protoss that does colo heavy army with alot of gateway units.
-,-
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#2542
On April 24 2011 01:11 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:09 cyclone25 wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:07 gnutz wrote:
Man, Morrows ZvP is so frustrating to watch.

Good Macro, good micro.

No understanding of Protoss. Or Zergs abiities.

Infestors, man
INFESTORS GRARGL

(and harrass/drops)


Morrow: "ive been practicing this matchup almost exlusivly the past weeks and still my winratio in zvt is about 20% higher than in zvp. ive practiced mutalisk play, ive tried multipromt attacks and nyduses. and high infestor play. but the overpower style is the absolute best way (and most solid imo) to play this matchup"

He isn't overpowering MC at all, he should either have a lot more units or be better upgraded, I mean come on.. If you're going for an agressive style then be ahead in upgrades or have more units


He had 180 vs 125 supply on Meta, but forcefields made Morrow's army useless.
Mercadia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States257 Posts
April 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#2543
So cool to see Morrow drop the gg gl when he's on the ropes. Does 6 pool BO win vs forge expand or like get crushed by probes?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#2544
On April 24 2011 01:12 revoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:11 AxionSteel wrote:
If MorroW really is turning into an IdrA clone he'll 6 pool and quit here.


If he turned to IdrA he would actually use Infestors you know...

Because Idra uses them against terran?
From what I have seen I would say Morrows infestor control is better than Idras.
Off-season = best season
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
April 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#2545
I have no problem with people disagreeing with Morrow's strategy, but please stop giving him advice of what he should do like you know what it takes to beat MC as zerg...
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
April 23 2011 16:14 GMT
#2546
On April 24 2011 01:11 butchji wrote:
I'm so giggling at people giving all the top zergs advices how to play ZvP.

His strategy might be good, but I'd like to know why he's not upgrading more for example, he sure as hell has the money
It appears I have been chosen.
Klaus1986
Profile Joined April 2011
United States113 Posts
April 23 2011 16:14 GMT
#2547
On April 24 2011 01:11 butchji wrote:
I'm so giggling at people giving all the top zergs advices how to play ZvP.

This. One of the best European SC2 players on the planet and people are trying to tell him how to play.
InteGrated
Profile Joined November 2010
United States259 Posts
April 23 2011 16:14 GMT
#2548
On April 24 2011 01:12 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:09 cyclone25 wrote:
On April 24 2011 01:07 gnutz wrote:
Man, Morrows ZvP is so frustrating to watch.

Good Macro, good micro.

No understanding of Protoss. Or Zergs abiities.

Infestors, man
INFESTORS GRARGL

(and harrass/drops)


Morrow: "ive been practicing this matchup almost exlusivly the past weeks and still my winratio in zvt is about 20% higher than in zvp. ive practiced mutalisk play, ive tried multipromt attacks and nyduses. and high infestor play. but the overpower style is the absolute best way (and most solid imo) to play this matchup"

Probably because the people he is playing aren't awesome at protoss.

Of course, if your mechanics is miles ahead of your opponent you can throw whatever at him and overpower him.



LOL? he plays vs naniwa consistently. and vs hasuobs
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 23 2011 16:14 GMT
#2549
I love how everyone in this thread is apparently a zvp expert
I have no quote!
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 23 2011 16:14 GMT
#2550
MC just playing a very solid defensive macro style.

Isn't the tunneling claw roach push suppose to come before colossus tech/observer?
Hydra/Roach switch is nice but doesn't work at all vs double robo, heavy gateway. Feels like those well microed colossus could have killed unlimited hydras.

Heavy roach might work vs early aggression/all-ins and/or worse macro toss - but if he sees that toss third base he should really transition out of it.
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
April 23 2011 16:14 GMT
#2551
RAZER DOMINATION: COPENHAGEN StarCraft II
Prize pool: 50.000 dkkr. / ~ 6.700 euro
1. : 25000 dkkr. / ~3400 euro
2. 13.000 ddkr. / ~1800 euro
3. 8.000 dkkr. / ~1100 euro
4. 4.000 dkkr. / ~550 euro
i came i saw i conquered
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
April 23 2011 16:14 GMT
#2552
Quick lair from MorroW, maybe some ling baneling drop action?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
April 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#2553
On April 24 2011 01:13 Seronei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:12 Vorenius wrote:

Probably because the people he is playing aren't awesome at protoss.

Of course, if your mechanics is miles ahead of your opponent you can throw whatever at him and overpower him.

Pretty certain he's practicing with naniwa.


=D i think this is the problem

He is practicing with Naniwa so nothing seems to work. Kinda like how Sjow went 0-10 against Naniwa when he was warming up for Dreamhack and totally tilted the first game. Luckily he recovered and won the series 2-1.
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
April 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#2554
Better play a strategy that you need to train 5 months to perfecten it, and then be able to dominate Protoss instead of playing a strategy that needs nothing but micro and macro, but is easily stopped by micro and macro. Protoss still can throw in harrass etc.

But these series are painful. In micro and macro Morrow is able to keep up with MC. Most of the time he wins the first engagement. But then he refuses to build anything on this advantages (read: Infestors. I will throw that word in now in every ZvP LR, until every Zerg does play them)
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#2555
On April 24 2011 01:13 Alpina wrote:
Morrow is the most unflexible and stubborn player I have ever seen. Why does he go ever single game 14/14 vs FE toss? And getting 3rd when toss gets his 3rd as well. You just can't win vs. superior player if you play soooo safe..


Watch Mondragon - Cruncher on TSL3 to see why hatch first isn't an option.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 16:15:31
April 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#2556
On April 24 2011 01:14 Provocateur wrote:
Quick lair from MorroW, maybe some ling baneling drop action?


most likely =], its so hard to defend vs this style without a quick stargate
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
April 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#2557
Loving the commentary. Khaldor is better than I thought, especially when paired with a player. Having a player co cast is just awesome aswell. It really adds to the excitement.

Nice job Copenhagen!
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
April 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#2558
Well Dimaga had success with fast ling drops against Forge FE.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
April 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#2559
On April 24 2011 01:12 Lennon wrote:
To those who think mass Roach is all-in:
It's a strong 2 base opening which allows you to put a lot of pressure on Protoss while taking a 3rd/4th. It's not all-in.


But morrow doesn't pressure. He just drones up until MC is on 3 bases and his army is too strong to handle with just roaches by then.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
April 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#2560
Haha, drop research at the 7minutes mark. :D
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