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Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
March 11 2011 15:00 GMT
#81
On March 11 2011 23:54 BoxedLunch wrote:
how exactly do these work? each group plays round robin, and the top 2 go to code S, bottom to code A?

No, the code A and the 3rd place from code S play a BO3, winner goes to code S. Loser of that match plays against the 4th place in code S, winner goes to code S and loser goes to code A.

So code A/3rd place player drops down to code A if they lose two BO3, 4th place drops down if he loses one BO3.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 11 2011 15:01 GMT
#82
The Mvp, Alicia, Genius group is the most interesting I think. I really think Genius or Alicia have it in them to stop Mvp, so we'll see I guess. He is 'the game genie' but his TvP has yet to be fully tested against top PvTers (according to TLPD; MC, Squirtle and San)
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
March 11 2011 15:06 GMT
#83
I'm curious how Huk and Inca will handle their matchup because they are on the same team. That will kind of mess up their training or perhaps they will even train together in hope that they can both defeat choya?
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
March 11 2011 15:06 GMT
#84
On March 11 2011 23:59 kash2k wrote:
Moving/staying in Code A:

oGsInca
IMNesTea
ST_Virus
TSL_Killer
IMMvp
oGsHyperdub
Polt.Prime
BanBansZenith

you are really funny =))
kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
March 11 2011 15:07 GMT
#85
On March 11 2011 22:07 Markwerf wrote:
This is so retarded. MKP, leenock and nestea in one group while an other group is supernova, polt & the best.

GSL tournament setup atm is just completely retarded. There should definately be some more seeding to avoid random knockouts of good players.
It is already stupid that both finalists of the previous GSL have to play up and down matches, who should play up and down from the code S players should really be determined by results in the previous two GSL's or even three. Ie. If you reach final your safe for the next 2 GSL's.

Even then if that is not used there should at least be a seeded placement for the up and down groups. Nestea and MKP, the 2 players with the best overall GSL results, in the same group? That is just retarded, the chance of one of them getting knocked out is fairly decent now as Leenock is quite a fine player who nearly beat MKP in previous GSLs already.
They should have just paired the best GSL players from code S to the worst in the up down matches, ie MVP with Polt, MKP with Hyperdub or something like that.



This is why you must play your best every match.

This is the best way to "force" players into improving their game play.

This is by far better system. Compare Western Tourneys where "better players" to hug it out and then blabering about their excuses.

You deliver or you dont, this is how it is in all competitive sport, as soon as you try to handicap "favorites" it all becomes artificial and fake.
Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
March 11 2011 15:07 GMT
#86
On March 12 2011 00:06 brentsen wrote:
I'm curious how Huk and Inca will handle their matchup because they are on the same team. That will kind of mess up their training or perhaps they will even train together in hope that they can both defeat choya?


the Choya 4 gate is deadly bro
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
March 11 2011 15:08 GMT
#87
Holy shit! Mkp, leenock and nestea..... they all deserve code s!

Huks group is tough, but could be worse imo. Good luck huk! You can do it!!!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 15:10:48
March 11 2011 15:10 GMT
#88
On March 12 2011 00:06 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 23:59 kash2k wrote:
Moving/staying in Code A:

oGsInca
IMNesTea
ST_Virus
TSL_Killer
IMMvp
oGsHyperdub
Polt.Prime
BanBansZenith

you are really funny =))


well....how did they end up in this situation?

I think their up/down matches are much harder than their Code S group they got knocked out from.

Everyone will definitely have to be on top of their game!!

<333 GSL
Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 15:13:52
March 11 2011 15:11 GMT
#89
On March 12 2011 00:10 kash2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 00:06 Darkthorn wrote:
On March 11 2011 23:59 kash2k wrote:
Moving/staying in Code A:

oGsInca
IMNesTea
ST_Virus
TSL_Killer
IMMvp
oGsHyperdub
Polt.Prime
BanBansZenith

you are really funny =))


well....how did they end up in this situation?

I think their up/down matches are much harder than their Code S group they got knocked out from.

Everyone will definitely be on top of their game!!

<333 GSL


you obviously have an agenda against IM players. But that's another story..

MVP and Nestea have 2 chances to stay in Code-S and this time in a BoX. Additionally, MVP has to practice only 1 match up, while Alicia and Genius have to practice for PvP also.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 11 2011 15:13 GMT
#90
I could see MKP dropping to Code A in an upset

HuK has an easy group in terms of player skill, he's just not very good in pvp though.

Big names who probably will drop to Code A look like: Fruitdealer, Genius and maybe Boxer.
the farm ends here
quaffle
Profile Joined December 2010
United States249 Posts
March 11 2011 15:17 GMT
#91
I am sorry HuK, pvp to get into code S. Oh well, you are the best in your group regardless. HUK FiGHTing!

Poor leenock and killer D:
Your success is only measured by the strength of your competitors.
kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
March 11 2011 15:18 GMT
#92
On March 12 2011 00:11 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 00:10 kash2k wrote:
On March 12 2011 00:06 Darkthorn wrote:
On March 11 2011 23:59 kash2k wrote:
Moving/staying in Code A:

oGsInca
IMNesTea
ST_Virus
TSL_Killer
IMMvp
oGsHyperdub
Polt.Prime
BanBansZenith

you are really funny =))


well....how did they end up in this situation?

I think their up/down matches are much harder than their Code S group they got knocked out from.

Everyone will definitely be on top of their game!!

<333 GSL


you obviously have an agenda against IM players. But that's another story..

MVP and Nestea have 2 chances to stay in Code-S and this time in a BoX. Additionally, MVP has to practice only 1 match up, while Alicia and Genius have to practice for PvP also.


Just Mvp He is unbelivable strong player but Protoss have best chances against him right now, so his game against Genius will be very important.

I love NesTea, but for some reason I think MKP will destroy him this time around. So match against Leenock will be vital.

Any how......cant wait for all the matches!!!!!!!!!

Gogo Huk, you got this!
Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 11 2011 15:23 GMT
#93
Groups B, C, and D are so stacked with big names is ridiculous. Hope HuK has been practicing his 4 gate defense ...
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 11 2011 15:25 GMT
#94
Hmm, sucks for Leenock. I don't see him winning unless MKP and Nestea really are slumping.
Inca is a god at PvP, but HuK has a shot vs Choya.
Sucks for Alicia, he is really dam good. Although genius seems to be pretty bad lately.
and lol, rain possibly in code S again?
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Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
March 11 2011 15:26 GMT
#95
On March 11 2011 23:22 dunc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 23:16 Daniel C wrote:
Is being the second code s player also random? Becuase the first code s player gets 2 chances to stay in code s whereas the 2nd player only gets 1...


No. If you went 0-2(or 0-3) you are placed fourth in your group which means you only get one chance.


Thanks, but then why is MKP "4th" but Inca "3rd" even though they both went 1-2?
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
regulator_mk
Profile Joined June 2010
United States127 Posts
March 11 2011 15:26 GMT
#96
So Ace gets idra's spot in up/down for winning IEM? Seems like a pretty big reward for an event not related to GSL...
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
March 11 2011 15:26 GMT
#97
For all of the PvP, HuK did not get the toughest group. Leenock, did, and it's insane that he, NesTea, and MKP are in one group. It's actually really appalling, because either TheBest or Polt are going to go back into Code S. That's the chobo group.

C, D, E, and F are all really close. H is somewhat less so, but I suppose BanBans and RainBOw may be closer than I think.
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iYiYi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
March 11 2011 15:31 GMT
#98
Can't really complain. NesTea, MVP, and MK all got to pick their groups in code S and all didn't deliver. This is what they get it, isn't made to be super fair/easy. Deal with it
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
March 11 2011 15:33 GMT
#99
On March 12 2011 00:26 Daniel C wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 23:22 dunc wrote:
On March 11 2011 23:16 Daniel C wrote:
Is being the second code s player also random? Becuase the first code s player gets 2 chances to stay in code s whereas the 2nd player only gets 1...


No. If you went 0-2(or 0-3) you are placed fourth in your group which means you only get one chance.


Thanks, but then why is MKP "4th" but Inca "3rd" even though they both went 1-2?


Because in the match they played against each other (included in that 1-2 score), MKP lost.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
March 11 2011 15:33 GMT
#100
At least now between GSL and TSL, HuK only has to practice PvP!
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
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