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Zuor
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland377 Posts
March 11 2011 13:48 GMT
#61
On March 11 2011 22:07 Markwerf wrote:
This is so retarded. MKP, leenock and nestea in one group while an other group is supernova, polt & the best.

GSL tournament setup atm is just completely retarded. There should definately be some more seeding to avoid random knockouts of good players.
It is already stupid that both finalists of the previous GSL have to play up and down matches, who should play up and down from the code S players should really be determined by results in the previous two GSL's or even three. Ie. If you reach final your safe for the next 2 GSL's.

Even then if that is not used there should at least be a seeded placement for the up and down groups. Nestea and MKP, the 2 players with the best overall GSL results, in the same group? That is just retarded, the chance of one of them getting knocked out is fairly decent now as Leenock is quite a fine player who nearly beat MKP in previous GSLs already.
They should have just paired the best GSL players from code S to the worst in the up down matches, ie MVP with Polt, MKP with Hyperdub or something like that.



Since Supernova got to the finals, he got to choose 2 players to his group. Groups A-F were random. Just wanted to clear that up.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 11 2011 13:49 GMT
#62
On March 11 2011 22:07 Markwerf wrote:
This is so retarded. MKP, leenock and nestea in one group while an other group is supernova, polt & the best.

GSL tournament setup atm is just completely retarded. There should definately be some more seeding to avoid random knockouts of good players.
It is already stupid that both finalists of the previous GSL have to play up and down matches, who should play up and down from the code S players should really be determined by results in the previous two GSL's or even three. Ie. If you reach final your safe for the next 2 GSL's.

Even then if that is not used there should at least be a seeded placement for the up and down groups. Nestea and MKP, the 2 players with the best overall GSL results, in the same group? That is just retarded, the chance of one of them getting knocked out is fairly decent now as Leenock is quite a fine player who nearly beat MKP in previous GSLs already.
They should have just paired the best GSL players from code S to the worst in the up down matches, ie MVP with Polt, MKP with Hyperdub or something like that.


whilest i am thinking like you, that the gsl setup is retarded, my suggestion would be LESS seeds.
like only top 4 get a seed into ro16, rest has to go through ro64 (group stages?) or even lower. that way the good players have a chance to qualify each season and the best get rewarded.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
March 11 2011 13:52 GMT
#63
Shit, FruitDealer is going down to Code A Fuck.
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
March 11 2011 14:01 GMT
#64
To you guys arguing about good players not getting a chance with the current GSL system.... dude, they had their chance and they botched it when they got owned in group stages. Now they're getting yet another chance in the up/down.

The system is set up so that it's really really difficult to get in from nothing, but somewhat hard to get out if you're already code S.. you have to lose the first round, then lose up/down matches, then you're still in code A next season and have to lose the first round again to get knocked completely out... at which point you're no longer a good player so you can't say that it's a good player 'randomly getting knocked out'.
aka Moletrap
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 11 2011 14:09 GMT
#65
On March 11 2011 22:07 Markwerf wrote:
This is so retarded. MKP, leenock and nestea in one group while an other group is supernova, polt & the best.

GSL tournament setup atm is just completely retarded. There should definately be some more seeding to avoid random knockouts of good players.
It is already stupid that both finalists of the previous GSL have to play up and down matches, who should play up and down from the code S players should really be determined by results in the previous two GSL's or even three. Ie. If you reach final your safe for the next 2 GSL's.

Even then if that is not used there should at least be a seeded placement for the up and down groups. Nestea and MKP, the 2 players with the best overall GSL results, in the same group? That is just retarded, the chance of one of them getting knocked out is fairly decent now as Leenock is quite a fine player who nearly beat MKP in previous GSLs already.
They should have just paired the best GSL players from code S to the worst in the up down matches, ie MVP with Polt, MKP with Hyperdub or something like that.


Nestea can only blame himself for losing to players which he should supposedly roflstomp, same for mkp. If it was san/ensnare/sc instead of nestea/mkp, u guys wouldnt have complained this much
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
March 11 2011 14:16 GMT
#66
Is being the second code s player also random? Becuase the first code s player gets 2 chances to stay in code s whereas the 2nd player only gets 1...
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
March 11 2011 14:22 GMT
#67
On March 11 2011 23:16 Daniel C wrote:
Is being the second code s player also random? Becuase the first code s player gets 2 chances to stay in code s whereas the 2nd player only gets 1...


No. If you went 0-2(or 0-3) you are placed fourth in your group which means you only get one chance.
Phosgene
Profile Joined February 2011
United States187 Posts
March 11 2011 14:22 GMT
#68
Wow, leenock got the worst group ever
Itsgosu
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
March 11 2011 14:26 GMT
#69
Hahahah I could totally see MVP dropping down to code A when he's against two protoss players.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
March 11 2011 14:36 GMT
#70
On March 11 2011 23:26 EmilA wrote:
Hahahah I could totally see MVP dropping down to code A when he's against two protoss players.


Don't underestimate The Game Genie Terran
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
March 11 2011 14:39 GMT
#71
Looking forward to Alicia, MVP, Genius. That is going to be pretty awesome. And Go HuK! I hope he can pull through
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 11 2011 14:39 GMT
#72
Feel bad for Leenock, Jesus that's a tough group.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
March 11 2011 14:44 GMT
#73
I don't think SangHo (killer) will make it to Code S, he has never impressed me and I'm sure boxer beat him in G-Stars.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 11 2011 14:47 GMT
#74
On March 11 2011 23:36 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 23:26 EmilA wrote:
Hahahah I could totally see MVP dropping down to code A when he's against two protoss players.


Don't underestimate The Game Genie Terran


This lol. Alot of people think lowly of Mvp now for dropping 2 games. He still has THE best win/loss record in GSL (at least i think he does).
The Notorious Winkles
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
March 11 2011 14:51 GMT
#75
On March 11 2011 21:25 Chriscras wrote:
A.K.A. News Flash: Moletrap and DOA are casting Code A next season.


Seriously? That would be awesome!

Kinda feel bad for Leenock and Alicia to draw such tough groups. Some really good players will go down to Code A while some weak ones will go to Code S.
BoxedLunch
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
March 11 2011 14:54 GMT
#76
how exactly do these work? each group plays round robin, and the top 2 go to code S, bottom to code A?
In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they are not
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
March 11 2011 14:54 GMT
#77
On March 11 2011 23:47 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 23:36 zyzq wrote:
On March 11 2011 23:26 EmilA wrote:
Hahahah I could totally see MVP dropping down to code A when he's against two protoss players.


Don't underestimate The Game Genie Terran


This lol. Alot of people think lowly of Mvp now for dropping 2 games. He still has THE best win/loss record in GSL (at least i think he does).


He is still #1 in ELO by a wide margin despite losing in the ro32, kinda shows you how dominate he was.
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
March 11 2011 14:56 GMT
#78
On March 11 2011 23:54 BoxedLunch wrote:
how exactly do these work? each group plays round robin, and the top 2 go to code S, bottom to code A?


Code A guy player plays against 3rd place code S. winner moves to code S, loser faces 4th place code S player for the final code S spot.
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
March 11 2011 14:57 GMT
#79
On March 11 2011 23:54 BoxedLunch wrote:
how exactly do these work? each group plays round robin, and the top 2 go to code S, bottom to code A?

No, the first two play a bo3, winner goes to Code S and loser plays against the other guy in another bo3 where the winner also goes to Code S and Loser to Code A.
kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
March 11 2011 14:59 GMT
#80
Moving/staying in Code A:

oGsInca
IMNesTea
ST_Virus
TSL_Killer
IMMvp
oGsHyperdub
Polt.Prime
BanBansZenith
Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
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