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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
March 11 2011 23:40 GMT
#221
I think B, D, and E will be the groups to watch.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 11 2011 23:51 GMT
#222
Leenock is screwed lmfao.
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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
March 12 2011 00:01 GMT
#223
damn, talk about leenock/alicia getting shafted in groups B/E e_e;
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
March 12 2011 00:05 GMT
#224
Sigh, I guess this is karma for 6pooling Nada for Leenock?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
March 12 2011 00:09 GMT
#225
so unfortunate for HuK, inCa is good at pvp too. Good luck man, hope u get through <3
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
March 12 2011 00:12 GMT
#226
2 stays up from each group or what?
Gogo Grubby.
Sahand
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom114 Posts
March 12 2011 00:14 GMT
#227
havent been watching tsl rain at all. does he still rely on all ins to win games or has he actually started macro'ing
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
March 12 2011 00:27 GMT
#228
On March 12 2011 09:14 Sahand wrote:
havent been watching tsl rain at all. does he still rely on all ins to win games or has he actually started macro'ing


His style is distinctly early-game based and ends at mid-game. He doesn't cheese all his games, but I guess you could say he plays to terran's strengths.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
March 12 2011 00:40 GMT
#229
i think this could be some of the best sc2 we've seen yet.
slim pickens
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
March 12 2011 00:43 GMT
#230
UnholyRai March 12 2011 09:12. Posts 315 PM Profile Quote #
2 stays up from each group or what?


yes. code a plays 3rd place code s, winner goes to code s. the loser plays the 4th place code s. the winner of this match goes code s and the loser goes code a.
slim pickens
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
March 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#231
my brain is having an orgasm at how amazing these are gonna be.
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
March 12 2011 01:16 GMT
#232
Had me at "Tastosis will be casting".

Poor FruitDealer, I think this'll be the end of his run at Code S.
WellPlayed.org <3
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 12 2011 01:22 GMT
#233
Huk has his work cut out for him going up against inca, a god among men of pvp. He'll probably have to rely on beating choya.

I feel so sorry for Leenock, kid has absolutely insane potential, just needs to get better luck with his draws. Getting a 2 time finalist and a champion in a group together must be stressful.
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kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
March 12 2011 01:27 GMT
#234
On March 12 2011 02:49 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 00:07 kash2k wrote:
On March 11 2011 22:07 Markwerf wrote:
This is so retarded. MKP, leenock and nestea in one group while an other group is supernova, polt & the best.

GSL tournament setup atm is just completely retarded. There should definately be some more seeding to avoid random knockouts of good players.
It is already stupid that both finalists of the previous GSL have to play up and down matches, who should play up and down from the code S players should really be determined by results in the previous two GSL's or even three. Ie. If you reach final your safe for the next 2 GSL's.

Even then if that is not used there should at least be a seeded placement for the up and down groups. Nestea and MKP, the 2 players with the best overall GSL results, in the same group? That is just retarded, the chance of one of them getting knocked out is fairly decent now as Leenock is quite a fine player who nearly beat MKP in previous GSLs already.
They should have just paired the best GSL players from code S to the worst in the up down matches, ie MVP with Polt, MKP with Hyperdub or something like that.



This is why you must play your best every match.

This is the best way to "force" players into improving their game play.

This is by far better system. Compare Western Tourneys where "better players" to hug it out and then blabering about their excuses.

You deliver or you dont, this is how it is in all competitive sport, as soon as you try to handicap "favorites" it all becomes artificial and fake.


Almost every game or sport has a system to protect higher level players. It is generally deemed more fun if high level players don't fall off straight away, if the best players meet eachother in the last stages of tournaments it provides the most fun, hence the reason for seeding.

A big reason for this is that the outcome of a game is not simply skill alone. Luck plays a big role if you like it or not. In GSL this can especially be seen in the first group phase, a great player (MVP) only has to face one player who is better then him that day (July) and he is already out of the tournament and has to play up/down matches after he dominated the previous system.
Comparing this to sports it's like saying Federer should play qualifiers for the next grand slam after losing the first round in one, it's completely rediculous.
On the other hand the system is too protective for players who have never been really good but just get by a little bit.
The guy who made the GSL system is simply completely oblivious to what makes a good system.
Everyone wants to be seeing the top players meet eachother in the last stages of the GSL, this system simply does not support that..


lol?

ye lets remove all players who beat MKP, MVP or NesTea from the tournament so we make sure they never ever loose? If this was the case we would still saw MKP running with marines only and NesTea being able to defend 99.9% of attacks.

Game is too young to favor any of current Champions. MC is the best example of player who is most likely will be SC2 legend. His play has authority and he DID learn how to not die to random stuff(not getting carried away with whatever build hes doing).

GSL is AMAZING!
Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 12 2011 01:31 GMT
#235
Lol are you serious group A ..





Should be very interesting.. :/

Group B, C and E look really insane these are going to be awesome!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 12 2011 01:37 GMT
#236
Well I really hope Leenock doesn't win... I wouldn't want to see MKP or Nestea go down to code A.

I'm hoping Ace can keep his spot as well. I really want to see him in Code S.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:48:27
March 12 2011 01:46 GMT
#237
On March 11 2011 22:07 Markwerf wrote:
This is so retarded. MKP, leenock and nestea in one group while an other group is supernova, polt & the best.

GSL tournament setup atm is just completely retarded. There should definately be some more seeding to avoid random knockouts of good players.
It is already stupid that both finalists of the previous GSL have to play up and down matches, who should play up and down from the code S players should really be determined by results in the previous two GSL's or even three. Ie. If you reach final your safe for the next 2 GSL's.

Even then if that is not used there should at least be a seeded placement for the up and down groups. Nestea and MKP, the 2 players with the best overall GSL results, in the same group? That is just retarded, the chance of one of them getting knocked out is fairly decent now as Leenock is quite a fine player who nearly beat MKP in previous GSLs already.
They should have just paired the best GSL players from code S to the worst in the up down matches, ie MVP with Polt, MKP with Hyperdub or something like that.



Random knockouts of good players?? You need to go at very best 1-4 to get knocked out of Code S during your gsl run. At least 1 of those has to be another player from the up/down or Code A How is that worthy of Code S? The 4th place players who get knocked down will be going minimum 0-3. People keep saying "oh they should be best of 3s anything can happen in a BO1!" But the fact is you are losing 3 times in a row pretty much to get knocked down. The simple fact is that we had A LOT of upsets and some old faces showing vastly improved skill (SanZenith, July as the prime examples). If you play bad enough where you are 1-4, you don't deserve your Code S this season that's all there is to it.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
March 12 2011 01:49 GMT
#238
omg poor huk pure protoss group, lol
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
March 12 2011 01:49 GMT
#239
Oh God, poor leenock. He deserves to be code S so badly but I don't think he'll make it this season, not against those two.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
March 12 2011 01:51 GMT
#240
People should know 1 thing and that's that the most improbable can happen in sc2. Why else do we have MVP, MKP, NesTea in the up and down matches ?

I'm not betting on Leenock, HuK or anyone else in those groups as lost causes. Upsets can happen and it has been proven this season. If anything this is the best time to make an upset as the longer GSL is going through, the better the overall skill is going to be for newcomers to join into code S.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
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