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UruzuNine
Canada162 Posts
Kinda disappointed with the groups overall, just because there are these death groups followed by lesser groups, so we're gonna have Code S quality players fall to Code A while guys that will just get wrecked are able to advance.  Oh well, that's luck of the draw for you. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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ZachFreeman
Australia484 Posts
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esaul17
Canada547 Posts
A Liquid (P)HuK UP oGs (P)InCa UP (P)Choya fOu DOWN InCa has been shown to be quite a beat in PvP since the beginning. Plus, he has the best Protoss in the world, MC to practice with. I can't really see him losing. HuK was initially critisized for only 4 warpgating every game due to his crappy computer. In a match up heavily defined by the 4 warp gate still, this history can't hurt him. Choya has been pretty lackluster in general. He may get a lucky cheese buy I think his opponents will be quite on guard for that given his history. His control against Nestea previously, where he let his voidray die, was also quite subpar. PvP is all about unit control right now, so I think he should lose. B (Z)Leenock fOu DOWN IM (Z)NesTea UP (T)MarineKing Prime UP There isn't too much to say here. Nestea is a boss ZvZ and in general, and MarineKing has been shown to be able to rape most Z players. I think Leenock is good, but just not good enough to take down two of the most consistent code S players in a best of 3. C ST (T)Virus UP TSL (Z)FruitDealer DOWN ST (P)Ace UP I am not too sure between FD and Virus. FD has been slipping lately but Virus has never been too impressive. However so much information about FD is out right now I think he may be a touch easier to prepare for. Also, I just have found him massively overrated lately so I would prefer getting rid of him. It really could go either way between these two though. Ace on the other hand after the TL and IEM, I can't imagine losing in this relatively weak group. As long as he doesn't underperform again I think he should nail this. D TSL (P)KiLLeR UP oGs (Z)Zenio UP SlayerS (T)BoxeR DOWN Zenio just seems like a lock for code S. Very solid zerg, despite what IdrA says. It could go either way between Killer and Boxer, but I haven't been too impressed by The Emperor's games in SC2. Killer (who I am not sure why he is listed as a Z) isn't amazing, but I think can eek out a win. I do wonder if Boxer will bother to even keep playing if he goes down to Code A though. E SlayerS (P)Alicia DOWN IM (T)MVP UP (P)Genius UP I think MVP has this hands down. Pretty easy group for him, and he has 2 chances to win. Between Alicia and Genius I am really not sure. Genius is on a new team now and hopefully can regain some old ground. Alicia was looking really solid until he made some quite poor decisions against Supernova. Both players seem a little shakey, but Genius was really the Protoss Hope once upon a time so I would like to see him do well again. F TSL (T)Rain DOWN oGs (T)TOP UP oGs (T)Hyperdub UP Top won Code A last season and is a pretty solid mid level Code S Terran. I think he is the obvious favourite. Rain did play a good TvT in Code A where he make good use of banshees, but Hyperdub is the sky terran. Neither are top level, and Hyperdub's play against MC was quite questionable, but hyperdub even put up a decent fight against Mvp TvT, and despite Rain having one good series his other games have been a joke. I can't see Rain back in Code S. G oGs (T)SuperNoVa UP (T)Polt Prime DOWN (T)TheBest fOu UP While I don't think we saw Supernova's TvT this season, he crushed through Code A, even taking out Squirtle the favoured winner of it in the first round. If his TvT is his strongest then I can't imagine him losing. Neither Polt or TheBest are really remarkable T players. Either could make it, but I am going with TheBest as I have found Prime in general a little lacking outside of MKP and while fOu isn't much better, I think it may have better standard T practice partners to work with. Really though, either of them could take it. H IM (Z)Losira UP (P)BanBans Zenith DOWN ST (T)RainBOw UP Losira looks like he can crush any of these guys. He won Code A for good reason and the competition are not too scary. Rainbow has certainly fallen from grace but BansBans was never there to begin with. He might be able to pull something off but it won't be too impressive either way. In totality I predict the race distribution of the up and down matches to be: T: 8 UP 3 DOWN Z: 3 UP 2 DOWN P: 5 UP 3 DOWN | ||
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price
United States297 Posts
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DarkRise
1644 Posts
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NineKOne
Canada92 Posts
A Liquid (P)HuK - UP oGs (P)InCa - UP (P)Choya fOu - DOWN InCa has one of the best PvP records to date, his timings always amaze me, and his control impeccable. However, there might be a "upset" here if HuK can hold off the early aggression of InCa, as HuK's mid/late-game is epic indeed. I think he will beat HuK first game. At the same time, HuK is not a bad player either. His MC-esque force field orientated play (early game) is very powerful against early aggressors like Choya. HuK likes to fast expand, and given these new maps which LARGE distances and common choke to multiple bases, I think the sentries of HuK will bring him to victory. And plus, I am Canadian, so I am obligated to be cheering for HuK! B (Z)Leenock fOu - UP IM (Z)NesTea - UP (T)MarineKing Prime - DOWN This has got to be a joke. All three deserve to be in Code S, but alas, it is not to be. First set will go to NesTea, a true legend of the game. We have yet to see a Grrrr... in SC2, but NesTea is a contender. His understanding of ZvZ and his game sense is just uncanny and unparalleled. Leenock is good, but he isn't that good to beat NesTea in a ZvZ. Second game will got to Leenock. Leenock's macro sense allows him to be powerful late game. While, MKP's sharp micro allows him to be aggressive early game. However, MKP is not playing towards his strength, and rather opting for long macro games. I think it is going to be a epic match like between Leenock and Clide back in the day. C ST (T)Virus - DOWN TSL (Z)FruitDealer - UP ST (P)Ace - UP First set will go to FruitDealer. Although I agree with the general consensus that FD has been slipping ever since he won season 1, however he is still one of the best Zergs out there. His plays are very unstable, he often goes for risks that would pay heavily if succeeded, but would lose him the game if he failed. This kind of strategy is perfect against a turtle-y Terran like Virus, as FD can will have an easier time predicting Virus's build order, and cut corners to achieve his goal. Second set will go to Ace. Ace has literally given me a hard-on during GSTL, and his path to winning the IEM is no easy feat either. Ace has displayed insane control through his IEM games, I can't count how many VRays he saved from death. I think Virus has displayed superior skills up to this point, but he is still not good enough to take down FD and Ace. D TSL (P)KiLLeR - UP oGs (Z)Zenio - DOWN SlayerS (T)BoxeR - UP First set will go to Killer. SangHo has, honestly, been one of my favorites to win Code A, his Protoss play is on par with some of the Code S players. Zenio is not a bad player either, he has been in Code S from the beginning, and he has played will in the Open Seasons as well, however, his strength lies in his ZvZ, and his late game is quite messy and unrefined (see Zenio vs Byun in group stages) both in his macro and control. I think as the game goes longer, the more the game goes in the favor of Killer. Second set will go to Boxer. This might be the part fanboy speaking, but Boxer is epic. It is true that Boxer has not been playing well recently, but his TvZ play is very good. The only recent loss to Zerg is to NesTea, and it doesn't count because it's against NesTea. Boxer's control will win him the game. E SlayerS (P)Alicia - UP IM (T)MVP - UP (P)Genius - DOWN First set will go to MVP, no question. Alicia is good, his Code A streak is good, but it's not good enough to beat a feature built into the game. Some where in the SC2 source code lies the following: Player determineWinner(Game currentGame){ if (Game.hasPlayer("IMMvp")){ return new Player("IMMvp"); } //moar code ..................... } But seriously, the game-genie, I think (and many would agree), is still the best player on the planet. His loss to July is unlucky, and is more resulting of unpreparedness than incompetence. Second set will go to Alicia. Genius has not shown any amazing play since he won BlizzCon, and that was a long time ago, the game has evolved. In with the new, out with the old. That is the purpose of Up/Down matches, and as such, Alicia will beat Genius. F TSL (T)Rain - DOWN oGs (T)TOP - UP oGs (T)Hyperdub - UP First match will go to TOP. Rain was a finalist in Season 3, however I think even that is a fluke. His play remains uninteresting, while TOP's macro play is awesome, especially his late game sense and ongoing macro. TOP has displayed his TvT power in his epic slug match against Byun in Code A finals last season, and I think his talent will prevail. The same story goes from Hyperdub and Rain. Hyperdub is not the best player out here, but he does show us some skill from time to to time. This is one of the easiest groups to predict. G oGs (T)SuperNoVa - UP (T)Polt Prime - DOWN (T)TheBest fOu - UP First set will go to SuperNoVa. Nova has shown SICK TvT games I'm still shocked at how convincingly he won against TSL_Alive. And surely being in the finals of Code A deserves him some respect. Polt is just bad. There is nothing more to say. At one point, he deserved to be in Code S, but recently, his play dipped heavily, and to think he can take down Jinro also shows that he is delusional. Code A finalist vs a delusional wash-up, I think the result is clear. Second set is hard to call, both Polt and TheBest has not shown anything spectacular recently, but I think the game will indeed go towards TheBest, just because I think he has a little more merit. H IM (Z)Losira - UP (P)BanBans Zenith - DOWN ST (T)RainBOw - UP First match will go to Losira. Holy crap is this kid good. He has crushed nerds left and right when Zerg is considered to be weakest. He beat LegalMind and HuK to get to the finals, so his ZvP is very good. I don't see how BanBans, a player who qualified for Code S from earlier achievements could beat a monster like Losira. Second set will go to Rainbow. Rainbow was the runner-up in Season 1, but he has stuck around, and have shown occasional strokes of genius, I think BanBans just haven't been practicing enough to stay in Code S. Although that is also what people (myself include) have though of SadZenith, but alas, he has done EXCEPTIONALLY well. Maybe BanBans can pull off an unlikely upset. | ||
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
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Punkstar
Slovakia522 Posts
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wrestlingfool08
United States139 Posts
On March 12 2011 05:39 SpiZe wrote: Can someone inform me on when it will go live, as a person who never watch GSL, I'm quite clueless Rather than give you food, I'm going to teach you how to fish, sir. You can either browse the TL calendar or upcoming events for most tourney time-related questions, or just go to the tourney's site (in this case gomtv's, where they have a schedule you can view) | ||
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Stratchka
Austria165 Posts
On March 12 2011 05:33 DarkRise wrote: the only solution to weed out terrans is having 2 group of all terran lol? I wouldn't call it weeding out since it means that for 2 T going to code A, 4 T will be going to code S  | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On March 12 2011 04:21 Draconicfire wrote: My predictions for Code S.. + Show Spoiler + A Huk and Inca B Nestea and MKP C Fruitdealer and Ace D Killer and Boxer E Alicia and MVP F Rain and Top G Supernova and Polt H Losira and Rainbow Gonna be sick. I hope you are right, but I am worried for boxer. Everone else things he is going to code A, but I would hate to see the legend lose his S class status. Unfortunately he didn't get his best match up which was tvt. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
PvPs are a bit of a crap shoot, but I think he can pull it off. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
Wishful thinking I want to see more Z in Code S | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On March 12 2011 03:49 Reasonable wrote: As to people who say that randomness isn't fair, then sports are not for you in general. Moreover, life is not likely to be successful for you guys, sorry. What? Most sports have a limited amount of randomness that is unavoidable. But why apply randomness to this process when you don't have to? Spawning close position on metal 3 times in a row => unavoidable randomness. Drawing a death group in the up/down matches when you made it to the ro4 => avoidable randomness. There is no reason Leenock should have to play Nestea/MKP when in another group one of Hyperdub/Rain will be in Code S. It doesn't make any sense and is easily avoidable. And yes life isn't fair, I'm pretty sure we're all aware of that. It doesn't mean we shouldn't eliminate random chance in competition when we can. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
This is a ridiculous level of talent in the Code S. It wouldn't shock me to see like only 1 or 2 people make it from Code A this time. | ||
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
LosirA | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On March 12 2011 06:29 ZasZ. wrote: What? Most sports have a limited amount of randomness that is unavoidable. But why apply randomness to this process when you don't have to? Spawning close position on metal 3 times in a row => unavoidable randomness. Drawing a death group in the up/down matches when you made it to the ro4 => avoidable randomness. There is no reason Leenock should have to play Nestea/MKP when in another group one of Hyperdub/Rain will be in Code S. It doesn't make any sense and is easily avoidable. And yes life isn't fair, I'm pretty sure we're all aware of that. It doesn't mean we shouldn't eliminate random chance in competition when we can. The way i see it is tht it's like picking a sporting draw, which is generally random. Sports have this all the time and it's the best way to do it as it prevents bias tht could happen. I don't see how this is anymore random than say, a tennis tournament, where there are 8 seeds and everyone else is randomised into the draw. | ||
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