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Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
March 10 2011 16:44 GMT
#101
On March 10 2011 08:54 Vequeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 06:21 Adeeler wrote:
If your trying to really find a good player why oh why do you do a Bo1 for your early rounds?


Because they dont have all the time in the world to run a tournament.


Split it over 2 days? Bo1 is the fastest way to miss good players imo.
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
March 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#102
TLopen, craftcup and go4sc2 all do fine with the best players ending up at the top and they have way more bo1 rounds. Its a tough way to play, but it isnt inaccurate.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 10 2011 17:37 GMT
#103
ive seen top players go out first round in ccup, the only reason we say bo3 is because we dont want team dignitas ending up with 8 people in a final who all 4 gated 2 rax scv or 6 pooled to the top 4 in each qualifier do we.
tyles
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 17:41:44
March 10 2011 17:40 GMT
#104
On March 11 2011 01:56 Vequeth wrote:
TLopen, craftcup and go4sc2 all do fine with the best players ending up at the top and they have way more bo1 rounds. Its a tough way to play, but it isnt inaccurate.


To some degree it may be inaccurate, but yeh. This is true..

If you are inconsistent and can't beat a player in a lower league (for example), then you don't deserve to win anyway.


ive seen top players go out first round in ccup, the only reason we say bo3 is because we dont want team dignitas ending up with 8 people in a final who all 4 gated 2 rax scv or 6 pooled to the top 4 in each qualifier do we.


I do agree with this, but then.. this is a tournament. Players do any means necessary to win. Even though you might feel you are the better player. Thats why the BO3 series comes into effect around this time, to drain out these players.
Tyles.772 Bobstar.223 I'm just disappointed they overhyped an announcement which would obviously cause a lot of backlash in the TL community. Sure they acquired huk, but they didn't have to rub it in our faces.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 10 2011 17:41 GMT
#105
Masters has a wide range of abilities and in PvP for example its very easy to lose to someone worse than you. Ive beaten Dignitas Bischu in a bo1 PvP but i dont think im better than him and the map was metalopolis.
tyles
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom509 Posts
March 10 2011 17:48 GMT
#106
The better player doesn't always win, this is Starcraft 2

Probably during that game you played better than Bischu.

(: Starcraft 2 is more about being consistent to achieve high aims. I would rant on people I have beaten in CraftCup, but it was probably by luck of BO.

But with the amount of rounds present in this tournament, the best players will show.

Tyles.772 Bobstar.223 I'm just disappointed they overhyped an announcement which would obviously cause a lot of backlash in the TL community. Sure they acquired huk, but they didn't have to rub it in our faces.
NepTuniO
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom57 Posts
March 10 2011 18:25 GMT
#107
are people actually suggesting that a player who 6 pools or 4 gates every game is more likely to win in a Bo1 than someone who plays standard??

then do it every game on the ladder!

cheeses are good for mixing it up within a series. i would be extremely surprised if someone who 6 pooled every game managed to win like 6 games straight, the chances are extremely unlikely....
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 10 2011 18:44 GMT
#108
im saying its entirely possible especially on one of the smaller maps that a 6 pool / 2 rax / 4 gate w/e could knock out a very good player.
tyles
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom509 Posts
March 10 2011 18:44 GMT
#109
On March 11 2011 03:25 NepTuniO wrote:
are people actually suggesting that a player who 6 pools or 4 gates every game is more likely to win in a Bo1 than someone who plays standard??

then do it every game on the ladder!

cheeses are good for mixing it up within a series. i would be extremely surprised if someone who 6 pooled every game managed to win like 6 games straight, the chances are extremely unlikely....


Agree
Tyles.772 Bobstar.223 I'm just disappointed they overhyped an announcement which would obviously cause a lot of backlash in the TL community. Sure they acquired huk, but they didn't have to rub it in our faces.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 18:49:43
March 10 2011 18:49 GMT
#110
you might not 6 pool 6 games straight to knock out a good player, you could play standard vs people your level and then see ur up against a good player and go dam im just gonna cheese to try win. That could end up with a good player losing to 1 instance of a 6 pool.
tyles
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom509 Posts
March 10 2011 19:13 GMT
#111
On March 11 2011 03:49 Zaros wrote:
you might not 6 pool 6 games straight to knock out a good player, you could play standard vs people your level and then see ur up against a good player and go dam im just gonna cheese to try win. That could end up with a good player losing to 1 instance of a 6 pool.


I think your blowing this way out of proportion in a delusive view
You clearly haven't seen the map pool. - It's part of the game, not the best always wins.
Tyles.772 Bobstar.223 I'm just disappointed they overhyped an announcement which would obviously cause a lot of backlash in the TL community. Sure they acquired huk, but they didn't have to rub it in our faces.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
March 10 2011 19:24 GMT
#112
On March 11 2011 03:49 Zaros wrote:
you might not 6 pool 6 games straight to knock out a good player, you could play standard vs people your level and then see ur up against a good player and go dam im just gonna cheese to try win. That could end up with a good player losing to 1 instance of a 6 pool.


A good player wouldnt lose to a scrub 6 pooling
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
March 10 2011 19:28 GMT
#113
On March 11 2011 04:24 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 03:49 Zaros wrote:
you might not 6 pool 6 games straight to knock out a good player, you could play standard vs people your level and then see ur up against a good player and go dam im just gonna cheese to try win. That could end up with a good player losing to 1 instance of a 6 pool.


A good player wouldnt lose to a scrub 6 pooling


Especially on a map pool that DOESNT include steppes of war, blistering sands etc.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 10 2011 19:32 GMT
#114
catch i dont just mean a 6 pool there are more than 6 pool as cheese i just used it as an example and i think its pretty clear that good players can lose to much worse players through cheese.

veljanov
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden33 Posts
March 10 2011 22:26 GMT
#115
awsome !

go Kompanix !
When i walk to the valley of shadow and death ill fear no evil,,, couse im the meanest mudda fukka in the valley
MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
March 11 2011 00:49 GMT
#116
First of all, we really appreciate all your feedback, let that be clear. Nonetheless we have decided to stick to the new mappool with Backwater Gulch, Slag Pits and Shattered Temple replacing Blistering Sands, Delta Quadrant and Lost Temple. Seeing as those maps are in the Blizzard ladder mappool and thus have to be practised either way, we believe that this is the fairest way to go about it (keeping in mind of course that they are quite balanced).

We will also leave the schedule as it is with Rounds 1-3 being Best of One and Round 4 & 5 (Quarter Final) Best of Three. Remember that each player has two vetos during the map picking process of those last rounds.

A reminder news with all the details (when/how to check-in) and hopefully (fingers crossed) stream details(!) will go live on our page Sunday noon...ish .

On March 11 2011 07:26 veljanov wrote:
awsome !

go Kompanix !

Go Kompanix indeed!
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 13 2011 08:14 GMT
#117
Qualifier 1 today
Kojaimea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 09:01:40
March 13 2011 08:51 GMT
#118
Awesome!

I'm super bad, but it'd be cool to meet a few more brits!

See you on the battlefield....
The riverbed, dried-up, half full of leaves. Us, listening to a river in the trees.
Johnranger-123
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United Kingdom341 Posts
March 13 2011 10:52 GMT
#119
So, when will we hear about the brackets?
ApolloSC2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom804 Posts
March 13 2011 11:40 GMT
#120
Think brackets are released at 7pm, I should be casting the games later also
www.twitter.com/apollosc2
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