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On March 03 2011 06:40 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 05:41 vdale wrote:
So, now I'm rooting for Morrow. Gogo Morrow!
If he drops out of the tournament
-> moonglade
(if he drops out)
-> idra
(...)
-> moon
I hope for an Idra vs Morrow final, it would be epic. Idra vs MorroW would probably be even more one sided than Ret vs MorroW at assembly. But at the sae time ZvZ is such a volatile MU that anything can happen.:s Either way I'd hate for that to be the final.
Uhm, Idra and Morrow have already faced each other in this competition and it was far from one sided.
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On March 03 2011 06:22 Meta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared. Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic Europe has very high educational standards for learning foreign languages than the rest of the world. His objection makes complete sense with regard to American foreign language education. Every American child takes Spanish or French classes for years, and yet somehow almost no American adults can speak those languages. So in that respect, I understand how the same can happen with Korean children and English.
There is another valid point here. Languages in europe are heavily influenced by each other, making learning them far easier then learning english as a korean speaking person. This does not explain the bad foreign language education of America for example.
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Boy, look at that massive decrease in trash talk directed towards Moon!
Glad to see Moon putting out results closer to what he should be doing 
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On March 03 2011 06:44 Mohdoo wrote:Boy, look at that massive decrease in trash talk directed towards Moon! Glad to see Moon putting out results closer to what he should be doing
Sooooooooooo true!
Moon is a beast!
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On March 03 2011 06:42 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 06:40 Vorenius wrote:On March 03 2011 05:41 vdale wrote:
So, now I'm rooting for Morrow. Gogo Morrow!
If he drops out of the tournament
-> moonglade
(if he drops out)
-> idra
(...)
-> moon
I hope for an Idra vs Morrow final, it would be epic. Idra vs MorroW would probably be even more one sided than Ret vs MorroW at assembly. But at the sae time ZvZ is such a volatile MU that anything can happen.:s Either way I'd hate for that to be the final. Uhm, Idra and Morrow have already faced each other in this competition and it was far from one sided.
It's almost impossible to be 1 sided in bane wars.
It's like saying 4 gate vs 4 gate, where one person slightly wins over the other person, was a one sided game.
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On March 03 2011 06:22 andrewlt wrote:
5 out of the 6 finalists have GSL experience. I don't think that's a fluke.
Yea was just going to comment that 5 of those 6 players have participated in GSL and lived in korea... MorroW is just a beast in his own right.
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On March 03 2011 06:50 Fa1nT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 06:42 nihlon wrote:On March 03 2011 06:40 Vorenius wrote:On March 03 2011 05:41 vdale wrote:
So, now I'm rooting for Morrow. Gogo Morrow!
If he drops out of the tournament
-> moonglade
(if he drops out)
-> idra
(...)
-> moon
I hope for an Idra vs Morrow final, it would be epic. Idra vs MorroW would probably be even more one sided than Ret vs MorroW at assembly. But at the sae time ZvZ is such a volatile MU that anything can happen.:s Either way I'd hate for that to be the final. Uhm, Idra and Morrow have already faced each other in this competition and it was far from one sided. It's almost impossible to be 1 sided in bane wars. It's like saying 4 gate vs 4 gate, where one person slightly wins over the other person, was a one sided game.
Nonetheless, Morrow did take one game off IdrA so it's not fair to call it one-sided.
I haven't watched the games though.
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On March 03 2011 06:28 PhantomNVD wrote:yes, THANKS! I've been trawling for these too, IEM site SUX! Any hints on how to find the ENGLISH casts (eg Day9) as anything off the central page seems to be German 
The link is in English. The VODs themselves are also in English. I'm not sure what more can be done for you.
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On March 03 2011 06:55 shaippen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 06:50 Fa1nT wrote:On March 03 2011 06:42 nihlon wrote:On March 03 2011 06:40 Vorenius wrote:On March 03 2011 05:41 vdale wrote:
So, now I'm rooting for Morrow. Gogo Morrow!
If he drops out of the tournament
-> moonglade
(if he drops out)
-> idra
(...)
-> moon
I hope for an Idra vs Morrow final, it would be epic. Idra vs MorroW would probably be even more one sided than Ret vs MorroW at assembly. But at the sae time ZvZ is such a volatile MU that anything can happen.:s Either way I'd hate for that to be the final. Uhm, Idra and Morrow have already faced each other in this competition and it was far from one sided. It's almost impossible to be 1 sided in bane wars. It's like saying 4 gate vs 4 gate, where one person slightly wins over the other person, was a one sided game. Nonetheless, Morrow did take one game off IdrA so it's not fair to call it one-sided. I haven't watched the games though.
Interestingly enough, the game that Morrow took off of Ret was a baneling war as well. He has very good unit control, but his builds are a bit sub-par when faced with roach FE. He's going to have to consider changing his opening on maps with easier to defend naturals.
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On March 03 2011 06:19 RogueStatus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 05:18 cangiz wrote:
4 Zergs out of 6 so far, I am very happy. ..and zerg is completely broken, not a chance a zerg can win a major tournament right now.. According to Idra anyhow.
Foreign tournaments yes, GSL no. I think IEM is showing beyond a shadow of a doubt the difference between korean and foreign competition.
Winning a tournament is a fluke since it requires you to constantly win. It is not representative of the best player, but of a player with a really good streak. So yes, in GSL zergs shouldn't win, i.e. they have a really low chance (it doesn't mean it can't happen, it's just that it's more likely to be a terran or protoss). In the foreign scene, terrans aren't as strong as their korean counterparts and it makes zerg much more likely to win a tournament.
I'm usually the one who hates when a zerg qq's, but I think i've seen enough games to understand why it's so.
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On March 03 2011 04:32 Certified wrote:
anyone know if the VODs are gonna be put up somewhere other than the ESL stream page?
those VODs are horrifically organized and a pain to navigate
www.intelextrememasters.com will have a news item linking to all the VODs from the event in one post. Within ~8-10 hours unfortunately, as our tired crew needs to get some well-deserved rest.
Please hang in there, otherwise go to www.esl.tv to the VOD section and type in "IEM" in the search box!
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On March 03 2011 06:44 gerundium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 06:22 Meta wrote:On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared. Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic Europe has very high educational standards for learning foreign languages than the rest of the world. His objection makes complete sense with regard to American foreign language education. Every American child takes Spanish or French classes for years, and yet somehow almost no American adults can speak those languages. So in that respect, I understand how the same can happen with Korean children and English. There is another valid point here. Languages in europe are heavily influenced by each other, making learning them far easier then learning english as a korean speaking person. This does not explain the bad foreign language education of America for example.
Folks here learn it here decently enough, but there's really no place to put it in practice outside the classroom for most people so it they eventually just forget it after the stop learning it due to disuse. I'd imagine it to be pretty much the same case for Korea/most other Asian countries with regards to English and other western languages.
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Awesome games today. I liked how they played the Socke-Sjow-Squirtle tiebreaker till a winner emerged... must've been tiring for the competitors, but it was epiiiiiiic
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On March 03 2011 07:12 Alphaes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 06:44 gerundium wrote:On March 03 2011 06:22 Meta wrote:On March 03 2011 05:54 Geo.Rion wrote:On March 03 2011 05:49 gayftw wrote:On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. Can you rap in French or Spanish? I'm almost positive that in America they teach their kids Spanish or French in school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that. No need to get offensive about this, i've spoke 3 languages when i graduated 12th grade, and i was studying a 4th one, which i still do, it's common, in Europe at least, by no means am i specially dedicated to learning languages. I find it really strange Korean pros barely speak any english. My 4th language (German) is better then the english of most progamers i've heared. Actually if you care, you can explain why isnt learning English, or other foreign languages popular in Korea, instead of trying to be sarcastic Europe has very high educational standards for learning foreign languages than the rest of the world. His objection makes complete sense with regard to American foreign language education. Every American child takes Spanish or French classes for years, and yet somehow almost no American adults can speak those languages. So in that respect, I understand how the same can happen with Korean children and English. There is another valid point here. Languages in europe are heavily influenced by each other, making learning them far easier then learning english as a korean speaking person. This does not explain the bad foreign language education of America for example. Folks here learn it here decently enough, but there's really no place to put it in practice outside the classroom for most people so it they eventually just forget it after the stop learning it due to disuse. I'd imagine it to be pretty much the same case for Korea/most other Asian countries with regards to English and other western languages.
Pretty true, I live in an Asian country and the only place I actively get to use English as the primary language of communication is on the Internet.
What actually makes English hard for most Asians is the fact that the English being taught is more for academic use. Practical English isn't really being taught. From my experience in teaching English to young children here (12-13 year olds), a lot of them are capable of comprehending the sentences I give them, but are unable to construct their own.
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Thinking about it now, the guy that impressed me most today has to be moonglade. I have never seen him perform like that before, but his game today was just rock solid.
On March 03 2011 06:50 Fa1nT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 06:42 nihlon wrote:On March 03 2011 06:40 Vorenius wrote:On March 03 2011 05:41 vdale wrote:
So, now I'm rooting for Morrow. Gogo Morrow!
If he drops out of the tournament
-> moonglade
(if he drops out)
-> idra
(...)
-> moon
I hope for an Idra vs Morrow final, it would be epic. Idra vs MorroW would probably be even more one sided than Ret vs MorroW at assembly. But at the sae time ZvZ is such a volatile MU that anything can happen.:s Either way I'd hate for that to be the final. Uhm, Idra and Morrow have already faced each other in this competition and it was far from one sided. It's almost impossible to be 1 sided in bane wars. It's like saying 4 gate vs 4 gate, where one person slightly wins over the other person, was a one sided game.
and yet, something just tells me 99% of zergs would crumble in a bane war vs idra.
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Congrats Squirtle!
Such an epic tiebreaker series =D
Bit sad to find out that the games tomorrow are going to clash with the GSL, feels like an avoidable scheduling conflict there.
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On March 03 2011 07:28 monx wrote:
too bad there is no T.
Buff terran now! lol
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On March 03 2011 07:30 Redox wrote:Buff terran now! lol
Immediately reminds me of the Korean netizens:
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck"
:D
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EPT
