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Prostak
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland192 Posts
March 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#6201
Ok, i have watched 2 days since 9 am till 8 pm....and im wow

Ace 10-0 is ridiciules, but he played very well
Idra very good as well
Morrow one game up to be 3 in group, only one game better then Tarson
GSL players owned


Moon 10-2 today skyrocked everyone WOW
Moonglade 4-1 in group skyrocked everyone accept Moon WOW WOW
and....2h or 3h tie with 3 players....ending GSL player again on top

Diffrence is kid a huge tbh, but Koreans got diffrent style of living i would say, in EU is a little big diffrent world than Korea
But they play very well i have to say.
But what North America had to say? 0-10 Fenix? omfg thats ridiciules; QXC 2-10 yesterday....
i dont even know how to comment that i will say n/c

WhiteRa done a little bit bad tbh i expected ( like most of ppl ) a little bit more of him...
but in the end GSL players are better in overall

i miss players like Strelok Mana Nani Dimaga Kas Bratok here, i would love to see how they compare to gsl dudes but u cant have it all

GGs
♥ EmpireHappy, roxkisBratOK, imbaFXOStrelok EmpireNerchio, MǂStephano, mTwDIMAGA dignitasNaniwa, aTnSocke, DuckloadRa ♥
cangiz
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada286 Posts
March 02 2011 20:18 GMT
#6202
4 Zergs out of 6 so far, I am very happy.
Dubai
MekTypro
Profile Joined July 2010
France360 Posts
March 02 2011 20:18 GMT
#6203
And 0 terran ;(
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
March 02 2011 20:18 GMT
#6204
On March 03 2011 05:10 ThaZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 05:04 Sein wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:52 silentsaint wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:25 hydraden wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:22 Rayansaki wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:19 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

Reading and speaking are two different things.


Europeans are in the same situation but they always respond in english. I think it's more of a case of most players being too shy. MC is the exception ofc! he doesn't afraid of anything.


Language is too different. It is very hard for east Asians to learn English, look at Japanes, Korean, and Chinese. They all can not speak good English, even though they learnt English for 5-10 years.
For Europeans, it is much easy.


Japaneese are exceptionally good at english actually.. relative to the other asian nations.
Also, if you are somebody who will encounter a lot of people speaking english due to your job it should be quite normal to learn english.


I don't think Japanese are much better than Koreans in English overall. Japanese also have the one of the most difficult accents to understand when they're trying to speak English. "Mahgeudonarudo". Maybe you just ran into a lot of Japanese who received pretty extensive English educations for business purposes.


Western languages not only share the same alphabet, but same general sentence structure and pronunciation. Asian languages have different alphabets, but they speak sounds we never do, and never speak sounds we always do. Makes it inherently a lot harder for them than for Europeans to speak English.

(i think Europeans are exposed to it a lot more, and expected to be able to better at it too)


Yep, agreed.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 20:53:52
March 02 2011 20:23 GMT
#6205
On March 03 2011 04:34 nihlon wrote:
So anyone know how good moonglade's ZvZ is?

Judging from his games vs moon, it's not much to write home about. Seeing the repeated baneling bust on shakuras was a bit painful. He likes to open speedling/bane which is the same style as Morrow, but Morrow's control is just as good if not better than Glade's. It will most definitely be some short baneling wars tomorrow between the two if the ZvZ's today and yesterday were any indication.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
teacash
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada494 Posts
March 02 2011 20:28 GMT
#6206
On March 03 2011 05:18 cangiz wrote:
4 Zergs out of 6 so far, I am very happy.

seriously?
ZvZ's are by farrrrr the worse matchup imo..
i love ZvT and ZvP, but most ZvZ's are pretty painful to watch i find

67% zergs is too many, but we'll see how the matchups pan out
War Horse
Profile Joined January 2011
United States247 Posts
March 02 2011 20:32 GMT
#6207
how did squirtle do so BAD
Why appeal to God when you can appeal to Apaches?
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
March 02 2011 20:33 GMT
#6208
On March 03 2011 05:28 teacash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 05:18 cangiz wrote:
4 Zergs out of 6 so far, I am very happy.

seriously?
ZvZ's are by farrrrr the worse matchup imo..
i love ZvT and ZvP, but most ZvZ's are pretty painful to watch i find

67% zergs is too many, but we'll see how the matchups pan out


ZvZ is way better than pvp imo.
MrSpider
Profile Joined January 2011
France173 Posts
March 02 2011 20:35 GMT
#6209
On March 03 2011 05:28 teacash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 05:18 cangiz wrote:
4 Zergs out of 6 so far, I am very happy.

seriously?
ZvZ's are by farrrrr the worse matchup imo..
i love ZvT and ZvP, but most ZvZ's are pretty painful to watch i find

67% zergs is too many, but we'll see how the matchups pan out


get used to it, we have been used to TvT MU since august 2010, :D
Les androïdes rêvent-ils de moutons électriques ?
teacash
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada494 Posts
March 02 2011 20:36 GMT
#6210
On March 03 2011 05:33 nekuodah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 05:28 teacash wrote:
On March 03 2011 05:18 cangiz wrote:
4 Zergs out of 6 so far, I am very happy.

seriously?
ZvZ's are by farrrrr the worse matchup imo..
i love ZvT and ZvP, but most ZvZ's are pretty painful to watch i find

67% zergs is too many, but we'll see how the matchups pan out


ZvZ is way better than pvp imo.

PvP is bad too, i admit. ZvZ might have more potential for future development, but i find the standard pvp better to watch than the average ZvZ..
they're both bad matchups, we'll settle on that okay >?
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2104 Posts
March 02 2011 20:37 GMT
#6211
On March 03 2011 05:10 ThaZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 05:04 Sein wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:52 silentsaint wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:25 hydraden wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:22 Rayansaki wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:19 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

Reading and speaking are two different things.


Europeans are in the same situation but they always respond in english. I think it's more of a case of most players being too shy. MC is the exception ofc! he doesn't afraid of anything.


Language is too different. It is very hard for east Asians to learn English, look at Japanes, Korean, and Chinese. They all can not speak good English, even though they learnt English for 5-10 years.
For Europeans, it is much easy.


Japaneese are exceptionally good at english actually.. relative to the other asian nations.
Also, if you are somebody who will encounter a lot of people speaking english due to your job it should be quite normal to learn english.


I don't think Japanese are much better than Koreans in English overall. Japanese also have the one of the most difficult accents to understand when they're trying to speak English. "Mahgeudonarudo". Maybe you just ran into a lot of Japanese who received pretty extensive English educations for business purposes.


Western languages not only share the same alphabet, but same general sentence structure and pronunciation. Asian languages have different alphabets, but they speak sounds we never do, and never speak sounds we always do. Makes it inherently a lot harder for them than for Europeans to speak English.

(i think Europeans are exposed to it a lot more, and expected to be able to better at it too)


Very very true logical points you have there. My local hairdresser is from japan and speaks Danish very well but with a Japanese accent ofcourse, and his voice and whenever he pronounce the words it's very high pitched up and down, because the Japanese language basically is like that.
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
DestroManiak
Profile Joined December 2010
257 Posts
March 02 2011 20:37 GMT
#6212
I had to stop watching right after sjow defeated socke on delta quadrant.
Can someone tell me what happened in that group later on?
teacash
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada494 Posts
March 02 2011 20:40 GMT
#6213
Watching IEM all day including the entire tie breaker after pulling an all-nighter has made me feel like i never wanna watch starcraft again.. what a quagmire that tie-break was.. i enjoyed it at the time to a degree, but in hindsight i think it made me sick of Sc2..
I'll prolly feel different by tomorrow..
gayftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)7 Posts
March 02 2011 20:40 GMT
#6214
if u kno nothing about the language, then dont shit about it. it make u look much more dumbass.
Shoot
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
March 02 2011 20:40 GMT
#6215
On March 03 2011 05:32 War Horse wrote:
how did squirtle do so BAD


i don't know how much hour there is between korea and germany but it's a lot
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
March 02 2011 20:41 GMT
#6216
So, now I'm rooting for Morrow. Gogo Morrow!

If he drops out of the tournament
-> moonglade
(if he drops out)
-> idra
(...)
-> moon

I hope for an Idra vs Morrow final, it would be epic.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 02 2011 20:42 GMT
#6217
On March 03 2011 05:28 teacash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 05:18 cangiz wrote:
4 Zergs out of 6 so far, I am very happy.

seriously?
ZvZ's are by farrrrr the worse matchup imo..
i love ZvT and ZvP, but most ZvZ's are pretty painful to watch i find

67% zergs is too many, but we'll see how the matchups pan out

Nah, PVP is worse. At least if ZVZ goes past tier 1, things branch out a bit. 4gate wars into colossus wars.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
March 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#6218
all SEA invited got in
gah not really happy with this... socke, white-ra and sjow =(
Idra and morrow fighting!!!!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 20:45:09
March 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#6219
On March 03 2011 05:23 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 04:34 nihlon wrote:
So anyone know how good moonglade's ZvZ is?

Judging from his games vs moon, it's not much to write him about. Seeing the repeated baneling bust on shakuras was a bit painful. He likes to open speedling/bane which is the same style as Morrow, but Morrow's control is just as good if not better than Glade's. It will most definitely be some short baneling wars tomorrow between the two if the ZvZ's today and yesterday were any indication.


Thanks, I'll be a little optimistic then. Morrow did win one game against Idra in a ling bling war (the other two involved roaches) so if it turn out that way tomorrow, he's probably got a chance.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
March 02 2011 20:47 GMT
#6220
On March 03 2011 05:37 Copymizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 05:10 ThaZenith wrote:
On March 03 2011 05:04 Sein wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:52 silentsaint wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:25 hydraden wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:22 Rayansaki wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:19 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:17 P0ckets wrote:
Does Squirtle not know how to speak English? I am almost positive that in Korea they teach their kids English in grade school. I mean my friend is over there doing just that.

Reading and speaking are two different things.


Europeans are in the same situation but they always respond in english. I think it's more of a case of most players being too shy. MC is the exception ofc! he doesn't afraid of anything.


Language is too different. It is very hard for east Asians to learn English, look at Japanes, Korean, and Chinese. They all can not speak good English, even though they learnt English for 5-10 years.
For Europeans, it is much easy.


Japaneese are exceptionally good at english actually.. relative to the other asian nations.
Also, if you are somebody who will encounter a lot of people speaking english due to your job it should be quite normal to learn english.


I don't think Japanese are much better than Koreans in English overall. Japanese also have the one of the most difficult accents to understand when they're trying to speak English. "Mahgeudonarudo". Maybe you just ran into a lot of Japanese who received pretty extensive English educations for business purposes.


Western languages not only share the same alphabet, but same general sentence structure and pronunciation. Asian languages have different alphabets, but they speak sounds we never do, and never speak sounds we always do. Makes it inherently a lot harder for them than for Europeans to speak English.

(i think Europeans are exposed to it a lot more, and expected to be able to better at it too)


Very very true logical points you have there. My local hairdresser is from japan and speaks Danish very well but with a Japanese accent ofcourse, and his voice and whenever he pronounce the words it's very high pitched up and down, because the Japanese language basically is like that.


I still stand by my theory that it's just shyness. Look at MC and Cella, their english isn't the best but it's still fairly easy to understand them, and MC's interviews in english are still better than interviews with a translator who still doesn't have the best english and with a lot of stuff lost in translation.
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