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Foomnz
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand36 Posts
February 27 2011 00:41 GMT
#781
how the fuck does any zerg think he can expand twice on LT before lair Vs terran and win?????
thats just stupid
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 00:42:04
February 27 2011 00:41 GMT
#782
Disappointing...


Vibe had really impressed me up until this most recent game. I don't understand why he went lair so late and did the all-in baneling bust. He's such a good player too.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
February 27 2011 00:41 GMT
#783
Damn, ViBE went all-in and payed for it.
banelings
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
February 27 2011 00:41 GMT
#784
cliffs won that, don't even deny it

It's pretty sad actually, ViBE must be kicking himself.
to live is to suffer
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
February 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#785
Yea i dunno why he decided to baneling bust, he was getting his gold, and everything was great, and then he sacrifices his whole army for like no reason.

Then he didnt get mutalisks cause he had to rebuild his army, letting mcloud drop the siege tanks uncontested.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
AdreN-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States503 Posts
February 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#786
On February 27 2011 09:40 Joementum wrote:
LOL. This is hilarious.

Terran: Oh shit, this Zerg threw away a lot of gas on banelings and actualyl did a lot of damage!!!11!11
Zerg: I got this shit.
Terran: I KNOW! I'll use the ledge and take down both bases and lose absolutely nothing in the process!
Zerg: Thanks Blizzard.

The Terran doesn't deserve the win. He played like a greedy Terran and the Zerg sacrificed a lot of units to make him pay for it. He then used map imbalances that Blizzard loves to actually win.


Zerg didn't need to build lair at the natural though and mutas were delayed too long
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 00:42:38
February 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#787
Here are the scenarios RIGHT NOW:

If Kawaii wins Ro4 and Kawaii wins the finals:
Kawaii advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX advances to TSL3 by way of points, and there is a three way tie for the final ladder qualifying position. (between Strelok, SeleCt, and HasuObs).

If Kawaii wins Ro4 and mcleod wins the finals:
mcleod advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, KawaiiRice and ZeeRax advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.

If Hasu wins Ro4 and Hasu wins the finals:
Hasu advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX advances to TSL3 by way of points, and there is a two way tie for the final ladder qualifying position. (between Strelok and SeleCt).

If Hasu wins Ro4 and mcleod wins the finals:
mcleod advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX and HasuObs advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
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.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
February 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#788
On February 27 2011 09:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 09:39 MaRkieMarK wrote:
On February 27 2011 09:38 Teejing wrote:
if it was new standard lost temple vibe would have had a chance


Yes, why would they not use the balanced version of Temple instead?

Why would you substitute a new map in when you have announced to use another version in all of your tournaments?


Isn't it just more of a 'fixed' version of temple though?

But I do understand since all the other TL open had used the normal version aswell.
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 00:45:33
February 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#789
lame map + play. why is this in tsl pool ?

edit: late spire + taking gold ad ledge was not that clever, though :-)
21 is half the truth
pikaaarrr :3
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States593 Posts
February 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#790
DJWHEAT:

the reason why mcleod has 51 points on the sheet is because the sheet updates in real time. mcleod gets 51 points for being a semifinalist. he has only played this tournament
joomanjii
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States284 Posts
February 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#791
All right guys, we can stop cheering for Baz (mcleod) now :D
"zerg should have taken every gas on the map, built as many hatches as he could, walked out of his booth, and pressed his dick against the glass of the terran's booth until all his buildings went down." - bronzeterran
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
February 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#792
On February 27 2011 09:40 Joementum wrote:
LOL. This is hilarious.

Terran: Oh shit, this Zerg threw away a lot of gas on banelings and actualyl did a lot of damage!!!11!11
Zerg: I got this shit.
Terran: I KNOW! I'll use the ledge and take down both bases and lose absolutely nothing in the process!
Zerg: Thanks Blizzard.

The Terran doesn't deserve the win. He played like a greedy Terran and the Zerg sacrificed a lot of units to make him pay for it. He then used map imbalances that Blizzard loves to actually win.

You can't fault the terran though =/. Do whatever you can to win, I guess. This still makes me sad. Seeing so many Zergs lose to 13-range tanks that they have nothing to counter with makes me sad.


Totally .wrong. The Zerg should not have gone for the baneling bust. He was punished for his poor decision.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
February 27 2011 00:43 GMT
#793
Oh ViBE

Well go go KawaiiRice!!
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
February 27 2011 00:43 GMT
#794
On February 27 2011 09:40 Joementum wrote:
LOL. This is hilarious.

Terran: Oh shit, this Zerg threw away a lot of gas on banelings and actualyl did a lot of damage!!!11!11
Zerg: I got this shit.
Terran: I KNOW! I'll use the ledge and take down both bases and lose absolutely nothing in the process!
Zerg: Thanks Blizzard.

The Terran doesn't deserve the win. He played like a greedy Terran and the Zerg sacrificed a lot of units to make him pay for it. He then used map imbalances that Blizzard loves to actually win.

Well zerg allined. Had mcleod played decently after holding the bling busts, he would've won regardless. Mcleod just chose a very safe win strategy.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
February 27 2011 00:43 GMT
#795
On February 27 2011 09:40 vilg wrote:
Not to beat a dead horse, but I still can't fathom how these guys are in the semi playing for participation in the biggest foreign sc2 torunament to date. Really is a symptom of (too) large variance in the game/tournament structure as these guys are obviously not at the caliber of other players who are not gonna make it.


Sadly I have to agree with this, but its something you always have when you have an open qualifier. It gives everyone a shot to participate.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
February 27 2011 00:43 GMT
#796
how many workers did the terran lose in the bust?
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
February 27 2011 00:43 GMT
#797
There was nothing wrong with the bust. He killed a bunch of scvs and the entire terran army. In any straight up fight, the zerg was going to win. Unfortunately the cliffs on that map constrain your tech, so you auto lose.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 27 2011 00:44 GMT
#798
vibe probably made this work a lot previously and it happened to fail this time, if he's gonna do this kind of all in i dunno why he wouldnt do it with a bunch of roaches as well
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 00:45:58
February 27 2011 00:44 GMT
#799
On February 27 2011 09:40 Joementum wrote:
LOL. This is hilarious.

Terran: Oh shit, this Zerg threw away a lot of gas on banelings and actualyl did a lot of damage!!!11!11
Zerg: I got this shit.
Terran: I KNOW! I'll use the ledge and take down both bases and lose absolutely nothing in the process!
Zerg: Thanks Blizzard.

The Terran doesn't deserve the win. He played like a greedy Terran and the Zerg sacrificed a lot of units to make him pay for it. He then used map imbalances that Blizzard loves to actually win.


What??? Vibe made a really sucky decision by making an EXTREMELY late baneling bust and doing nearly NO damage, his banes and zlings combined probably cost more than what he killed in that bust, not only that, but he tried to execute this in cross positions which allows terran to get back on his feet really easily. He then proceeds to make a lair in the most vulnerable of all possible locations, and gets mutas so late that by the time they're up 3 turrets are already built at the high ground.

He basically made an all-inish build on the wrong positions, while mcleod played a safe game successfully.

Ofc LT is imbalanced because of that cliff, but saying that's the reason vibe lost this game is insane, he just made horrible decisions.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 27 2011 00:44 GMT
#800
On February 27 2011 09:42 MaRkieMarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 09:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On February 27 2011 09:39 MaRkieMarK wrote:
On February 27 2011 09:38 Teejing wrote:
if it was new standard lost temple vibe would have had a chance


Yes, why would they not use the balanced version of Temple instead?

Why would you substitute a new map in when you have announced to use another version in all of your tournaments?


Isn't it just more of a 'fixed' version of temple though?

But I do understand since all the other TL open had used the normal version aswell.



What I would call 'fixed' is something like the neutral supply depot at the bottom of ramps on GSLs LT, Metal, etc....

The new changes made to Lost Temple by Blizzard are pretty big.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
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