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Here are the scenarios RIGHT NOW:
+ Show Spoiler +If Kawaii wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and Kawaii wins the finals:
Kawaii advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX advances to TSL3 by way of points, and there is a three way tie for the final ladder qualifying position. (between Strelok, SeleCt, and HasuObs).
If Kawaii wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4 and mcleod wins the finals:
mcleod advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, KawaiiRice and ZeeRax advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Kawaii wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and Kawaii wins the finals:
Kawaii advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX and ViBE tie with 114 points taking the final two point qualifier spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Kawaii wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and ViBE wins the finals:
ViBE advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, Kawaii and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and Hasu wins the finals:
Hasu advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX advances to TSL3 by way of points, and there is a two way tie for the final ladder qualifying position. (between Strelok and SeleCt).
If Hasu wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and mcleod wins the finals:
mcleod advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX and HasuObs advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and Hasu wins the finals:
Hasu advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ViBE and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and ViBE wins the finals:
ViBE advances to TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, HasuObs and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the last two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
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I'll punch the first person who says TvT is fun in the face (my rl friends only). This thing is making me yawn.
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Feedback to Raelcun.
While you audio level and general level of excitment etc was ok, the cast turned gradually into a "this is what I think the players should do"
You were, at one point basically just correcting on everything players such as select and brat_ok did. Made it seem like they were making the most basic miss-steps throughout entire series. The technical aspects of the casting was decent, but without claiming to know anything about your sc2 exeperience playing wise, you went way out of your comfort-zone critizise(sp) wise. Felt like I was watching a ranting day9(daily). xD
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since when is raelcun casting in such a condescending manner?
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On February 27 2011 08:25 FreddYCooL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 08:22 fueNN wrote:On February 27 2011 08:13 Golden Ghost wrote:On February 27 2011 08:11 fueNN wrote:
it's just plain stupid to do replaycasts, hope they will learn that sometime.. That is just bullshit. If you do a livecast there are to many variables that can screw up your whole tournament. The only problem you have with them is that the players spoiled the results although they are under an obligation (if I'm correct) to keep the results secret untill they are casted. knowing the game has already been played isn't just the same as following it live. live-coverage has it's own flow. and seriously what's the worst thing that could happen? caster drops and has to cast a replay.. yea totally screwed up. the factor that anything could happen rather pumps up the tension for the viewer. the cheating-issue just isn't that big. literally anyone can implant a 20 second delay on their stream, advantage is gone immediatly. Do you really think it is that easy to implement a delay on a stream? And it has to more than 20 seconds, i would say atleast 5 minutes.
Yes it is, and is already being done.
Why do you think Khaldor was the only one who did not have to cast from replays?
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if mcload advances with two allins and the finals are TvT, I think I'm gonna kill a puppy (or just go sleep)
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On February 27 2011 08:25 p4NDemik wrote:Here are the scenarios RIGHT NOW: + Show Spoiler +If Kawaii wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and Kawaii wins the finals:
Kawaii advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX advances to TSL3 by way of points, and there is a three way tie for the final ladder qualifying position. (between Strelok, SeleCt, and HasuObs).
If Kawaii wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4 and mcleod wins the finals:
mcleod advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, KawaiiRice and ZeeRax advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Kawaii wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and Kawaii wins the finals:
Kawaii advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX and ViBE tie with 114 points taking the final two point qualifier spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Kawaii wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and ViBE wins the finals:
ViBE advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, Kawaii and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and Hasu wins the finals:
Hasu advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX advances to TSL3 by way of points, and there is a two way tie for the final ladder qualifying position. (between Strelok and SeleCt).
If Hasu wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and mcleod wins the finals:
mcleod advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX and HasuObs advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and Hasu wins the finals:
Hasu advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ViBE and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and ViBE wins the finals:
ViBE advances to TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, HasuObs and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the last two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
Scenario #5 please! I have feeling it won't happen based on my luck today and yesterday's GSL.
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On February 27 2011 08:29 Xax wrote:
since when is raelcun casting in such a condescending manner?
It has always been his style to be somewhat "lecturing".
I dont think its that bad though. Imo its good to have a variety of casters with different styles that one can choose from.
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On February 27 2011 08:22 fueNN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 08:13 Golden Ghost wrote:On February 27 2011 08:11 fueNN wrote:
it's just plain stupid to do replaycasts, hope they will learn that sometime.. That is just bullshit. If you do a livecast there are to many variables that can screw up your whole tournament. The only problem you have with them is that the players spoiled the results although they are under an obligation (if I'm correct) to keep the results secret untill they are casted. knowing the game has already been played isn't just the same as following it live. live-coverage has it's own flow. and seriously what's the worst thing that could happen? caster drops and has to cast a replay.. yea totally screwed up. the factor that anything could happen rather pumps up the tension for the viewer. the cheating-issue just isn't that big. literally anyone can implant a 20 second delay on their stream, advantage is gone immediatly.
1) Player can drop and the game has to be watched by referees and perhaps replayed resulting in a lot of time with no game to watch what so ever.
2) battle net can crash and the game has to be watched by referees and perhaps replayed resulting in a lot of time with no game to watch what so ever.
3) The internet of the stream can crash.
4) Even with a 20 sec. delay the players can still watch the stream and see expantions/tech etc. without having to scout for it and can see stratagies of their opponent well in advance.
5) In a big online tournament (especially with a big prize pool) you have to check the replays for cheating. This happens more often as you may think even among well known and respected players. Just search for it in the TSL 2 threads.
etc. etc. etc.
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On February 27 2011 08:30 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 08:25 p4NDemik wrote:Here are the scenarios RIGHT NOW: + Show Spoiler +If Kawaii wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and Kawaii wins the finals:
Kawaii advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX advances to TSL3 by way of points, and there is a three way tie for the final ladder qualifying position. (between Strelok, SeleCt, and HasuObs).
If Kawaii wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4 and mcleod wins the finals:
mcleod advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, KawaiiRice and ZeeRax advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Kawaii wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and Kawaii wins the finals:
Kawaii advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX and ViBE tie with 114 points taking the final two point qualifier spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Kawaii wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and ViBE wins the finals:
ViBE advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, Kawaii and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok, Select, and HasuObs are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and Hasu wins the finals:
Hasu advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX advances to TSL3 by way of points, and there is a two way tie for the final ladder qualifying position. (between Strelok and SeleCt).
If Hasu wins Ro4, mcleod wins Ro4, and mcleod wins the finals:
mcleod advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ZeeRaX and HasuObs advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and Hasu wins the finals:
Hasu advances to the TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, ViBE and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the final two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated.
If Hasu wins Ro4, ViBE wins Ro4, and ViBE wins the finals:
ViBE advances to TSL3 by way of winning TL Open #15, HasuObs and ZeeRaX advance to TSL3 by way of points, taking the last two spots. Strelok and Select are eliminated. Scenario #5 please! I have feeling it won't happen based on my luck today and yesterday's GSL.
If scenario #5 doesn't happen... I don't know what to think of the world anymore.
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On February 27 2011 08:31 Golden Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 08:22 fueNN wrote:On February 27 2011 08:13 Golden Ghost wrote:On February 27 2011 08:11 fueNN wrote:
it's just plain stupid to do replaycasts, hope they will learn that sometime.. That is just bullshit. If you do a livecast there are to many variables that can screw up your whole tournament. The only problem you have with them is that the players spoiled the results although they are under an obligation (if I'm correct) to keep the results secret untill they are casted. knowing the game has already been played isn't just the same as following it live. live-coverage has it's own flow. and seriously what's the worst thing that could happen? caster drops and has to cast a replay.. yea totally screwed up. the factor that anything could happen rather pumps up the tension for the viewer. the cheating-issue just isn't that big. literally anyone can implant a 20 second delay on their stream, advantage is gone immediatly. 1) Player can drop and the game has to be watched by referees and perhaps replayed resulting in a lot of time with no game to watch what so ever. 2) battle net can crash and the game has to be watched by referees and perhaps replayed resulting in a lot of time with no game to watch what so ever. 3) The internet of the stream can crash. 4) Even with a 20 sec. delay the players can still watch the stream and see expantions/tech etc. without having to scout for it and can see stratagies of their opponent well in advance. 5) In a big online tournament (especially with a big prize pool) you have to check the replays for cheating. This happens more often as you may think even among well known and respected players. Just search for it in the GSL 2 threads.etc. etc. etc.
Wut???
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I could've sworn hasuobs wouldve been ahead of zeerax at the ro4. I guess i must've seen an already updated point list at the start.
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If Hasu doesn´t make it to the finals I´m gonna be so sad...
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On February 27 2011 08:31 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 08:29 Xax wrote:
since when is raelcun casting in such a condescending manner? It has always been his style to be somewhat "lecturing". I dont think its that bad though. Imo its good to have a variety of casters with different styles that one can choose from.
Yea i really like his style. I wouldnt call it condescending either.
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For some reason all i see is a blank white screen and when I go on to the ustream website I get a blank screen too.
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On February 27 2011 08:33 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 08:31 Golden Ghost wrote:On February 27 2011 08:22 fueNN wrote:On February 27 2011 08:13 Golden Ghost wrote:On February 27 2011 08:11 fueNN wrote:
it's just plain stupid to do replaycasts, hope they will learn that sometime.. That is just bullshit. If you do a livecast there are to many variables that can screw up your whole tournament. The only problem you have with them is that the players spoiled the results although they are under an obligation (if I'm correct) to keep the results secret untill they are casted. knowing the game has already been played isn't just the same as following it live. live-coverage has it's own flow. and seriously what's the worst thing that could happen? caster drops and has to cast a replay.. yea totally screwed up. the factor that anything could happen rather pumps up the tension for the viewer. the cheating-issue just isn't that big. literally anyone can implant a 20 second delay on their stream, advantage is gone immediatly. 1) Player can drop and the game has to be watched by referees and perhaps replayed resulting in a lot of time with no game to watch what so ever. 2) battle net can crash and the game has to be watched by referees and perhaps replayed resulting in a lot of time with no game to watch what so ever. 3) The internet of the stream can crash. 4) Even with a 20 sec. delay the players can still watch the stream and see expantions/tech etc. without having to scout for it and can see stratagies of their opponent well in advance. 5) In a big online tournament (especially with a big prize pool) you have to check the replays for cheating. This happens more often as you may think even among well known and respected players. Just search for it in the GSL 2 threads.etc. etc. etc. Wut???
He probably means TSL2.
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If Strelok doesn't make it to TSL I'm gonna be sad
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lol terrans op song is so funny
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On February 27 2011 08:34 TealLurker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 08:33 NexUmbra wrote:On February 27 2011 08:31 Golden Ghost wrote:On February 27 2011 08:22 fueNN wrote:On February 27 2011 08:13 Golden Ghost wrote:On February 27 2011 08:11 fueNN wrote:
it's just plain stupid to do replaycasts, hope they will learn that sometime.. That is just bullshit. If you do a livecast there are to many variables that can screw up your whole tournament. The only problem you have with them is that the players spoiled the results although they are under an obligation (if I'm correct) to keep the results secret untill they are casted. knowing the game has already been played isn't just the same as following it live. live-coverage has it's own flow. and seriously what's the worst thing that could happen? caster drops and has to cast a replay.. yea totally screwed up. the factor that anything could happen rather pumps up the tension for the viewer. the cheating-issue just isn't that big. literally anyone can implant a 20 second delay on their stream, advantage is gone immediatly. 1) Player can drop and the game has to be watched by referees and perhaps replayed resulting in a lot of time with no game to watch what so ever. 2) battle net can crash and the game has to be watched by referees and perhaps replayed resulting in a lot of time with no game to watch what so ever. 3) The internet of the stream can crash. 4) Even with a 20 sec. delay the players can still watch the stream and see expantions/tech etc. without having to scout for it and can see stratagies of their opponent well in advance. 5) In a big online tournament (especially with a big prize pool) you have to check the replays for cheating. This happens more often as you may think even among well known and respected players. Just search for it in the GSL 2 threads.etc. etc. etc. Wut??? He probably means TSL2.
Yeah. Typo.
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