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rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
February 25 2011 14:27 GMT
#1801
Funny how every time a foreigner loses it's either because he was unlucky or he played pretty solid and barely lost. Moonglade was completely manhandled in game 2, dunno what games you guys are watching.
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DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 14:32:50
February 25 2011 14:29 GMT
#1802
On February 25 2011 23:24 Telcontar wrote:
Just got back from uni. It's sad to see moonglade knocked out. I hope he tries again! Oh and Squirtle lost? WHAT HAPPENED?


Game 1: He went 3 gate + 1 robo for colossi and 2 stargates for mass phoenix. Terran went MM+Mass vikings + Raven, they both took 3 ewxpansion and were clashing at bottom of Scrap Station, terran slowly adavnced to his side with turrets and poking everytime he could. Terran was sniping stuff with the viking range and would go back to mass turret range, Squirtle became impatient and instead of switching tech just went for the enagement over the turrets Oo. Colossi died so did phoenix so it was MM vs Stalker+Sentry.

Game 2: FE from both on Taldarim Altair, terran helion dropped and destroyed lots of probes and Squirtle decided to move out, terran dropped 2 bunkers and vikings killed Colossi.

Both of games i believe he was impatient! =(

Edit: Wrote problem instead of Probes. And np Telcontar =D
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 25 2011 14:29 GMT
#1803
On February 25 2011 23:29 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 23:24 Telcontar wrote:
Just got back from uni. It's sad to see moonglade knocked out. I hope he tries again! Oh and Squirtle lost? WHAT HAPPENED?


Game 1: He went 3 gate + 1 robo for colossi and 2 gates for mass phoenix. Terran went MM+Mass vikings + Raven, they both took 3 ewxpansion and were clashing at bottom of Scrap Station, terran slowly adavnced to his side with turrets and poking everytime he could. Terran was sniping stuff with the viking range and would go back to mass turret range, Squirtle became impatient and instead of switching tech just went for the enagement over the turrets Oo. Colossi died so did phoenix so it was MM vs Stalker+Sentry.

Game 2: FE from both on Taldarim Altair, terran helion dropped and destroyed lots of problems and Squirtle decided to move out, terran dropped 2 bunkers and vikings killed Colossi.

Both of games i believe he was impatient! =(


Thanks for the recap!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
February 25 2011 14:31 GMT
#1804
On February 25 2011 23:26 ImmortalTofu wrote:
Interesting... Ace and Squirtle both roflstomped... By Terrans no less. This is why I think the GTSL is kinda overrated. Except for the finals, I don't think teams were sending out their best players in order to save strategies for this Code S tournament...

Stinks for MoOnGlade... But Jjun looked quite strong!

Also, did rain cheese out his opponent, because I quite like rain in some ways!

Ace lost to a zerg not terran.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 25 2011 14:42 GMT
#1805
On February 25 2011 23:26 ImmortalTofu wrote:
Interesting... Ace and Squirtle both roflstomped... By Terrans no less. This is why I think the GTSL is kinda overrated. Except for the finals, I don't think teams were sending out their best players in order to save strategies for this Code S tournament...

Stinks for MoOnGlade... But Jjun looked quite strong!

Also, did rain cheese out his opponent, because I quite like rain in some ways!


GSTL wasn't overrated. In Squirtle's case, it might have hurt him, as there was a lot of data to study about him. There's a research/prep component to individual leagues that you don't get in the team leagues. Makes team leagues a lot more exciting and does show off the true skill some of them have.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
February 25 2011 14:44 GMT
#1806
On February 25 2011 22:30 skrzmark wrote:
at least i got Alicia right! Junwi never lets me down! Ret better win against jobbsu after all his good performances lately

Lol, my liquibet also took a beating today but always bet against Junwi
the farm ends here
dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
February 25 2011 14:48 GMT
#1807
What the heck Squirtle .. ): and moonglade .. Wow both Ace and Squirtle gone, there go the Protoss ):
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
February 25 2011 14:52 GMT
#1808
1/4 on liquibet today ;_;
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 25 2011 15:22 GMT
#1809
Dissappointing standard of play from Squirtle after so much hype. Goes from All-killing in team league to being dismissed from Code A.
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
February 25 2011 15:32 GMT
#1810
Holy crap. Didn't realize Supernova was (T)SaiR. Would have been more hyped about that match if I did.
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
February 25 2011 15:53 GMT
#1811
On February 25 2011 21:32 Gingerninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 21:14 RoseTempest wrote:
On February 25 2011 21:06 cheesemaster wrote:
On February 25 2011 21:00 shredzy wrote:
My god, kelly is so fuking annoying and stupid zzzzz

Honestly i dont think she is that bad at all, after i got over her accent i think she is a reasonable addition to the team, her analysis is decent shes fairly easy on the eyes and shes quite cheerful, shes done alot better than i thought she would so far.


1. She is bad, she makes terrible, wrong, declarative statements and often leaves long and awkward silences that tasteless makes heroic efforts to fill. The commentary is getting dry and tasteless can't keep it entertaining by himself.

2. You don't get over the accent, unless you're from singapore. You can understand what she's saying, yes, but the accentuation, and the sheer pitch/grating tone of her voice coupled with the terrible pronunciation makes it a pain to listen to. Honestly, even tasteless has started making fun of the things she says (TWO TORS *chuckle*).

3. Her analysis is bad, see point 1, she makes random statements based on random things that she sees that have no effect on the actual outcome.

4. She's actually NOT attractive, however this is a subjective topic, and I won't argue.

5. Cheerful =/= good commentary, she makes terribad jokes and laughs at them herself, and tasteless gives a forced laugh once in a while too. Makes a fake laugh at everything tasteless says as well. Completely lacks the synergy that tastosis has, where they build on each other, have common topics and whatnot.

td;lr

She's a bad caster, and just as bad as we had expected, I pray she doesn't make it through to next season so I can watch code A, and I now await the flood of white knights rushing to her defense.


1. Tasteless makes just as many mistakes, Artosis often makes wrong predictions.
2. It's not a pain to listen to, guessing you don't deal with non native speakers very often. I have no problems with it, it doesn't grate, it's not annoying.
3. Once again in compaison to what? Tastosis often will both say something only for it go completely opposite.
4. Subjective, has nothing to do with casting ability.
5. Tastosis didn't have synergy at the start.. you build that by working together. her cheerfulness and enthusiasm is good, would you rather have a caster be dry and miserable?

So much blind hate, the IRC is unreadable throughout code A games due to all the people makes "Jokes" about her accent, as if its 1, big, 2, clever, 3 1975... not everyone speaks the same, get over it.


Look, its not "blind" hate if its substantiated... I don't HATE Kelly as a caster but it should be evident to anyone who has somewhat followed Starcraft 2 that she has ALOT of room for improvement in multiple areas. She mispronounces words like its her job and I can see why alot of people have difficulty understanding her. Personally, I don't have much of a problem because I have many relatives in the SEA region but its perfectly understandable for people to be annoyed with her manner of speech. Furthermore, she just seems to lack alot of understanding of the game and rarely adds meaningful analysis, often times making down right wrong statements. "2 gas so we will probably see a fast expo..." Really? I don't want to hate on her and she definitely brings enthusiasm to the cast but it takes more than that to make a good caster. First and foremost is the ability to articulate and translate your thoughts and analysis to the viewers, somet
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Shindou
Profile Joined September 2010
United States120 Posts
February 25 2011 15:55 GMT
#1812
On February 25 2011 23:27 rysecake wrote:
Funny how every time a foreigner loses it's either because he was unlucky or he played pretty solid and barely lost. Moonglade was completely manhandled in game 2, dunno what games you guys are watching.


10000000000000000000000% agree. By far the most annoying comments in post game play by play threads. I guess they would be more lucky never playing appropriate competition or having a challenge and cakewalking it to the top against bronze players.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
February 25 2011 16:02 GMT
#1813
poor moonglade ;( don't give up man
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RiceMuncher
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia138 Posts
February 25 2011 16:08 GMT
#1814
does kelly even take ANY constructive criticisms from the SEA site? Like seriously. STOP STATING THE OBVIOUS.
STOP "commentating" on every single move and then trying to predict whos gona win which battle etc etc. And please stop using words like "always" and "will" etcet. Its not 100% that a player will do "X" or "Y". Makes you sound so stupid
ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
February 25 2011 16:13 GMT
#1815
Kelly said after seeing zerg do an extractor trick that he going to be rushing.


Predictions are based from more than 1 factor.
That was just terrible analysis/deduction based on an irrelevant factor.

Just to point out one of the many examples of why people may dislike her casting
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
February 25 2011 16:22 GMT
#1816
2/4 today.... well that's sad to see Moonglade go. I thought he had a relatively easy path to Ro4...oh well.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 25 2011 16:47 GMT
#1817
On February 25 2011 23:29 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 23:24 Telcontar wrote:
Just got back from uni. It's sad to see moonglade knocked out. I hope he tries again! Oh and Squirtle lost? WHAT HAPPENED?


Game 1: He went 3 gate + 1 robo for colossi and 2 stargates for mass phoenix. Terran went MM+Mass vikings + Raven, they both took 3 ewxpansion and were clashing at bottom of Scrap Station, terran slowly adavnced to his side with turrets and poking everytime he could. Terran was sniping stuff with the viking range and would go back to mass turret range, Squirtle became impatient and instead of switching tech just went for the enagement over the turrets Oo. Colossi died so did phoenix so it was MM vs Stalker+Sentry.

Game 2: FE from both on Taldarim Altair, terran helion dropped and destroyed lots of probes and Squirtle decided to move out, terran dropped 2 bunkers and vikings killed Colossi.

Both of games i believe he was impatient! =(

Edit: Wrote problem instead of Probes. And np Telcontar =D


This best part of this game was tasteless screaming about how crazy pheonix + colussus is. I wonder if he watches any games besides GSL.
White-Ra fighting!
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 16:55:18
February 25 2011 16:53 GMT
#1818
Just watched all the interviews, Supernova's favorite player is...JINRO!!! He also said he hope to be as good as jinro. Just for that comment (even if its a lie because it was during the english interviews) I will support you against your next opponent.

Edit: John is really good at interviews now, even making up question on the way.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
February 25 2011 17:11 GMT
#1819
How many banelings does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll...nvm a Thor?

One!...Two!.......a-Thr----Twenty. It's too bad Yeah did that and made his training partner Nestea look bad in the process, especially given the infamy of the Rain/Nestea thing in GSL3.

That said, I am sick of people dogging Rain for all-ins, when he doesn't do it very often since that series, he's not bitbybit.prime.

Sad to see Moonglade out, but his terran opponent seemed much better than Rain, just as was the case with Haypro vs Ganzi. What's interesting is that Ganzi is former IM but currently teamless. I don't know the reasons, but it seems IM lost a pretty good Terran. His Terminus game against Haypro, I'm sorry to say, looked about as decisive as IMSeed's games in the GSTL. He looked like an IM player for sure.

I'm less surprised now about Junwi's loss to SlayerS_Alicia after J's teamleague performance.

I didn't watch Squirtle closely until I saw that giant phoenix fleet in the Scrap Station game. I guess he didn't do the colossus/phoenix mix properly, although tbh the battle was fairly close. Go Supernova!
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 25 2011 17:23 GMT
#1820
On February 26 2011 00:55 Shindou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 23:27 rysecake wrote:
Funny how every time a foreigner loses it's either because he was unlucky or he played pretty solid and barely lost. Moonglade was completely manhandled in game 2, dunno what games you guys are watching.


10000000000000000000000% agree. By far the most annoying comments in post game play by play threads. I guess they would be more lucky never playing appropriate competition or having a challenge and cakewalking it to the top against bronze players.



Everyone gives excuses for why their favorite players lost. Remember when cellawerra lost in season 1? Everyone thought it was a fluke because "He's an awesome streamer", but he simply wasn't at the level of all of these other players. Haypro vs Ganzi was a terrible series. If you look at it objectively without considering the name of the players playing, it was pretty bad. Neither player was comfortable playing in a macro game. Haypro's mutas were the most ineffective mutas I've ever seen in a pro game and he wasn't able to deal with multiple harassments at the same time. Ganzi on the other hand played as standard of a terran as possible making tanks marines marauders and medivacs. He lost SOOOOOOOOO many medivacs. Maybe he didn't care becuase he was sitting on 5 bases, but a better player would not have lost them. He apparently did this in bw too. Also, where was the tech for haypro? He's sitting on 5-6 bases (and losing like 5-6 hatches that he didn't need anyway). He could have gone broodlords or ultras or infestors or even, omg, roaches to tank the tank shots. Neither player convinced me they deserve a code S spot and the better (slightly) player won.

This is a mentality that ESPN also has with east coast teams. When the Giants won the world series they called it a fluke stating that "they were lucky". They simply couldn't believe that their Philies lost. The Philies are a great team, but the giants had the pitching advantage and they had a group of hitters that could get things done at the right time.



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