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pullarius1
United States523 Posts
Poll: How bad did your Liquidbet suck today? One right (31) Two right (17) Zero right (12) Three right (8) Four right (3) 71 total votes Your vote: How bad did your Liquidbet suck today? (Vote): Zero right | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
On February 26 2011 02:23 darmousseh wrote: Haypro vs Ganzi was a terrible series. If you look at it objectively without considering the name of the players playing, it was pretty bad. Neither player was comfortable playing in a macro game. Haypro's mutas were the most ineffective mutas I've ever seen in a pro game and he wasn't able to deal with multiple harassments at the same time. Ganzi on the other hand played as standard of a terran as possible making tanks marines marauders and medivacs. He lost SOOOOOOOOO many medivacs. Maybe he didn't care becuase he was sitting on 5 bases, but a better player would not have lost them. He apparently did this in bw too. Also, where was the tech for haypro? He's sitting on 5-6 bases (and losing like 5-6 hatches that he didn't need anyway). He could have gone broodlords or ultras or infestors or even, omg, roaches to tank the tank shots. Neither player convinced me they deserve a code S spot and the better (slightly) player won. He lost those medvacs keeping the Z on 3 bases for like 20 minutes plus keeping the mutas out of his base since they had to be defensive. Was every drop cost-effective? Nope. But they were crucial to his success. I generally agree with your point regarding Hayder's mutas. That map is great for mutalisks, but Hayder wasn't able to get a sizeable force up for quite a while. Wasn't as bad as Glade's 13-minute 7 muta ball today, but it was disappointing. Maybe we're just spoiled watching Idra generate a HUGE muta ball absurdly quickly, but it seems to me that a sizeable force like that harassing a spread-out terran is the best way to play a map like Terminus RE. Also, the Giants were objectively a worse team for 2010. Doesn't mean they didn't play better than the Phillies in the LCS, but the Phillies were the better team. ^_^ | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
And yeah, i think squirtle was a bit overrated after the GSTL, but then again supernova is pretty good | ||
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danielsan
Romania399 Posts
On February 25 2011 21:14 RoseTempest wrote: 4. She's actually NOT attractive, however this is a subjective topic, and I won't argue. Following your logics: She is not attractive Then she is a bad caster Tastless is a good caster ..... ?!? To address the ones rooting for moonglade or foreigners in general: his opponent had code S play. Why is it so hard to weigh one's performance objectively. On February 25 2011 23:26 ImmortalTofu wrote: Also, did rain cheese out his opponent, because I quite like rain in some ways! rain had a horrible, horrible performance. Cheesy, no actual goals, poor execution i literally could not believe after such play he had the nerves to state he's confident he would be winning code A. Still hoping, for the sake of humanity, it was a translation error. | ||
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kirbynator
Canada503 Posts
she has no clue about terrans or protosses at all. "he shouldve made stalkers to take care of the marauders" "he shouldnt make zealots against marauders" REALLLY?!?!?!fsadofdsagfdsa;pkhfdsa;pkhfdsa;fdsaklh;fd lahgbljfdsahg fdsjklè | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
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Footler
United States560 Posts
On to the games, Supernova was pretty sick and I was really pulling for Squirtle. Really looking forward to seeing more from him and hopefully Squirtle will be be back next season. Looks like Moonglade failed to receive the blessing of Peter Neate before heading to Korea. | ||
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Shindou
United States120 Posts
On February 26 2011 02:23 darmousseh wrote: This is a mentality that ESPN also has with east coast teams. When the Giants won the world series they called it a fluke stating that "they were lucky". They simply couldn't believe that their Philies lost. The Philies are a great team, but the giants had the pitching advantage and they had a group of hitters that could get things done at the right time. Not at all, nobody ever said they were lucky - not even John Kruk. Criticism was that the Phillies hitting was terrible, and the Giants pitching was better... I'd know too I'm from philly. It's just the lamest excuse for people to be like "oh he's unlucky he had to play that player" If "that player" is really that good, they would have to play them and lose eventually. | ||
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RinconH
United States512 Posts
I support foreigners coming in for the drama but when you got guys like bomber/seed/yunghwa not getting seeded and foreigners showing weak games... there is going to be backlash. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On February 26 2011 02:23 darmousseh wrote: Everyone gives excuses for why their favorite players lost. Remember when cellawerra lost in season 1? Everyone thought it was a fluke because "He's an awesome streamer", but he simply wasn't at the level of all of these other players. Haypro vs Ganzi was a terrible series. If you look at it objectively without considering the name of the players playing, it was pretty bad. Neither player was comfortable playing in a macro game. Haypro's mutas were the most ineffective mutas I've ever seen in a pro game and he wasn't able to deal with multiple harassments at the same time. Ganzi on the other hand played as standard of a terran as possible making tanks marines marauders and medivacs. He lost SOOOOOOOOO many medivacs. Maybe he didn't care becuase he was sitting on 5 bases, but a better player would not have lost them. He apparently did this in bw too. Also, where was the tech for haypro? He's sitting on 5-6 bases (and losing like 5-6 hatches that he didn't need anyway). He could have gone broodlords or ultras or infestors or even, omg, roaches to tank the tank shots. Neither player convinced me they deserve a code S spot and the better (slightly) player won. This is a mentality that ESPN also has with east coast teams. When the Giants won the world series they called it a fluke stating that "they were lucky". They simply couldn't believe that their Philies lost. The Philies are a great team, but the giants had the pitching advantage and they had a group of hitters that could get things done at the right time. I did notice that anyone who beats a foreigner in an early round tends to get classified into one of the two groups. (1) He is a damn cheeser who doesn't deserve to be playing starcraft or (2) He is going to win the whole thing. What an unfortunate draw. You can't possibly expect to face a scrub who also happens to never cheese on every round. If you're really a top class player like Jinro and Idra, it'll show on your results. | ||
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
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zeru
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branflakes14
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Irrelevant
United States2364 Posts
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On February 26 2011 03:34 kirbynator wrote: sorry but kelly is really really bad she has no clue about terrans or protosses at all. "he shouldve made stalkers to take care of the marauders" "he shouldnt make zealots against marauders" REALLLY?!?!?!fsadofdsagfdsa;pkhfdsa;pkhfdsa;fdsaklh;fd lahgbljfdsahg fdsjklè Lol she was actually mostly right with that call. Squirtel overproduced Phoenix, so he couldn't get up a big enough ground army. So when he lost the air battle all he had were Colossi without support. Which they are virtually worthless with out. Sure maybe in your one dimensional herp derp world, marauders do beat stalkers. However there is more too it than that. Stalkers would have provided a buffer allowing the colossi to do their dmg, also they would have been able to chew through the vikings in combination with the phoenix. While producing no Zealots would be a mistake, making a Zealot heavy ground army wouldn't have been as effective, due to concussive shell. Not saying Kelly is an ideal caster. Though don't criticizes her for being correct. | ||
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andrea20
Canada441 Posts
On February 26 2011 00:22 AxionSteel wrote: Dissappointing standard of play from Squirtle after so much hype. Goes from All-killing in team league to being dismissed from Code A. Goes to show how underrated players like HongUn and Clide are. Even though they have not won anything significant, they consistently perform well enough to keep themselves on the gravy train, and that's what matters most at the moment. People have put HongUn below players like Squirtle, Tester, Inca, and Genius, when it's actually HongUn who has shown the most consistency over the past few months. | ||
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StarCraft64
United States354 Posts
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DarkRise
1644 Posts
On February 26 2011 04:34 andrea20 wrote: Goes to show how underrated players like HongUn and Clide are. Even though they have not won anything significant, they consistently perform well enough to keep themselves on the gravy train, and that's what matters most at the moment. People have put HongUn below players like Squirtle, Tester, Inca, and Genius, when it's actually HongUn who has shown the most consistency over the past few months. Well its just that HongUn can be very cheesy and you know how people rate players like that Anyways i only got 1 right on my liquibet =/ | ||
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VikingKong
China509 Posts
On February 26 2011 04:47 StarCraft64 wrote: Damn, the only liquibet I won from this was for Rain. Would've gone 4/4 if I voted by race only and used the Idra racial power equation (T > P > Z). Lol, I don't know why, but that final sentence is just really funny. Something about the phrasing of the "Idra racial power equation" maybe. | ||
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teacash
Canada494 Posts
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