• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:38
CEST 13:38
KST 20:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0
Community News
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)42Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition245.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)118$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 152
StarCraft 2
General
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) 5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL20 General Discussion Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game [BSL21] - How to Qualify to Each League ? RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
How Modern Estimating Methods Are Changing Constru Current Meta TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Proposed Glossary of Strategic Uncertainty
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
What your "aura" says about…
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2127 users

[GSL] Up and Down Matches Groups G and H - Page 44

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 42 43 44 45 46 65 Next
tntn
Profile Joined December 2010
80 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#861
lol at the rage going on and the unprofessionalism of artosis
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#862
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

On the contrary.
Their lack of professionalism in the LifeForever series actually made everything a lot more enjoyable.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9029 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#863
Leenock still has a lot to improve.
spidii
Profile Joined October 2010
United States372 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#864
On January 27 2011 20:04 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

stop talking sht ]


Got nothing to do with bias, get a dictionary out, calling a player bad doesn't mean you "bias" towards anyone, just means that the player is bad...
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#865
wow... I was updating my GOMTV player when the Zerg player was building his natural and I came back to open the GOMTV player again and the match is ALREADY OVER?

Geez these games are too short...
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#866
On January 27 2011 20:03 Dente wrote:
I wonder how some zergs easily stop this, but others can't. It was a simple 6 rax push. If it was imbalanced, then blizzard would have nerfed it already!

Game 2: 10:40 and leenock had some zerglings. A low master zerg has at least 5 muta's by then and at least 5 banelings...

Do you "terran is OP"-whiners actually know that every progamer has the possibility to mail the blizzard balance team? When tanks were OP, demuslum mailed to david kim and blizzard patched tanks.



Yeah, Leenock was playing like he was on Cross Shakuras in games 2 & 3. You have to expect rushes from LiveForever... it's just a given. Build your banelings nest.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#867
U think the LiveForever bashing is bad, wait till SanZenith shows up, LOL. Seriously though Liveforever wasn't that bad when he played in s1, yeah he hasn't practiced but he can still do a timing push that works if Leenock doesn't react at least semi-correctly, simple as.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#868
On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote:
i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.



Artosis said he is not even Masters he is just some Diamond.

I need to get this Rage out its not Healthy I just feels so bad for Leenock.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#869
On January 27 2011 20:04 Seiuchi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:02 veganwa wrote:
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

Agreed. Or, I don't find it to be a horrible experience. But they could certainly be a bit less dickfucky


Artosis being unprofessional and mercilessly bashing bad players is the only reason I bought a season ticket and the only thing that has kept me interested in the many lackluster and downright bad matches that occur every season, especially in Code A.


I would be sleeping right now if I thought Tastosis was going to be super serious and respectful casting these games.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#870
LiveForever shouldn't feel bad, anyway.

Even if he was worse than Artosis and Tasteless, he still probably makes more money losing 0-2 in the first round of Code S than they get for commentating.

I wonder how long he can continue in Code S. I wouldn't be surprised if he quit after going down to Code A, but for now, good money, get to be on television, and play a video game. Fun.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#871
Top FIGHTING
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#872
On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote:
i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.


i bet you whine every time a 4gate works as well
qetou
Profile Joined January 2011
39 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#873
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

turn the sound off and enjoy. artosis 4tw
Holdinga
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria300 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#874
I really don't know why some people think that some strategies SHOULD not be supposed to work... ? Are there some sort of rules in which it is stated that certain strategies should not work ?

I'm not saying liveforever is a top 5 or top 10 terran player. Im saying im glad he won because of artosis flaming him like shit.
He played a good strategy in 2nd and 3rd games and won ... Won pretty one-sidedly.
I am not going to talk about game balance because it is not allowed in these threads.

I also dont like how they use the term diamond level play, and below diamond level play. I'm like 2700 masters with all my bonus pool added, but I'm sure that Liveforever will probably beat me 10/10 games.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 11:09:13
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#875
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.


Only thing making viewing GSL a horrible experience is reading these threads, the moderators here have said no balance talk allowed, so a few people decided to whine about the commentators instead. If its not balance, maps or commmentators, its something else.

Regardless of what happens, there is always something to complain about for some of you people, the rest of us who are trying to watch these games have to basically run away from these threads because people get too upset and become Comic Book Guy (see: Simpsons) where everything and everyone sucks and its horrible and "OMG its SOO BAD".

Artosis got invested in the game, and showed his bias: guess what that happens to every commentator ever. Ever watch a sporting event? Big deal, if you dont like him talking, there is the mute button, click it, and put some music on.
★ Top Gun ★
spidii
Profile Joined October 2010
United States372 Posts
January 27 2011 11:08 GMT
#876
On January 27 2011 20:05 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:03 spidii wrote:
On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote:
i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.



In the end, lots of Barracks + Stim + Combat Shield timing is super strong, you need to know it's coming, you need your banes earlier and that's what it comes down to. Otherwise, you're just not going to stop it.


seriously...

10 lings vs 6 rax? liveforever "tricked" him with a canceled factory. this isn't imbalance, this is just funny.

liveforever didn't have combat shields either



I know he did in game 2, and I thought he did again in game 3 since he had two tech labs but I'm not 100 percent, either way, stim timing by itself is hard to stop unless you are prepared.
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
January 27 2011 11:08 GMT
#877
On January 27 2011 20:05 Gudeldar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:03 syllogism wrote:
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

No, they've to state the truth rather than lie/evade. Even LiveForever would agree he is terrible.


Seriously, why are people complaining about Artosis and Tasteless saying he is bad when he says pretty much the same thing himself. His attitude seemed to be ok I'll show up and play some SC2, whatever.

The people complaining are probably silver league and don't like them talking bad about how they play.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
January 27 2011 11:08 GMT
#878
On January 27 2011 20:06 LoCaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote:
i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.



Artosis said he is not even Masters he is just some Diamond.

I need to get this Rage out its not Healthy I just feels so bad for Leenock.


LOL

if leenock loses to this "dimaond level" stuff, then what does that make him

usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
January 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#879
On January 27 2011 19:39 Genzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 19:36 Live2Win wrote:
honestly I don't know how Artosis and Tasteless can say stuff like the crap that they're saying about a player and GOM not doing anything about it. It's so unprofessional I can't believe I'm actually hearing them talk this much crap about a player on a GLOBAL stream.


yeah that bothers me too, they have been doing this since GSL3 i think

Another one here. It's been bothering me for a long time. Artosis should concentrate on game play analysis and strategic decisions per game. It's OK to have an opinion on someone's skill but the way he puts it out there is really getting on the nerve, even if I'm not a fan of the player.
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 11:11:08
January 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#880
LiveForever is 2401 point Masters League. http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/95740/LiveForever

He was #41 on the world ladder a few weeks ago.
Prev 1 42 43 44 45 46 65 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Map Test Tournament
11:00
TLMC #15: Group C
IndyStarCraft 111
3DClanTV 41
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 66
CranKy Ducklings40
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko172
IndyStarCraft 111
Rex 87
ProTech66
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24645
GuemChi 2913
Sea 2332
Bisu 1503
actioN 650
firebathero 446
Zeus 362
Mini 362
BeSt 345
Stork 285
[ Show more ]
Light 238
Last 227
Soma 223
Soulkey 194
Killer 186
ggaemo 164
sSak 154
ZerO 143
hero 137
Mong 131
Hyun 103
Mind 100
PianO 96
ToSsGirL 90
yabsab 79
Rush 76
Snow 61
zelot 52
sorry 47
Sea.KH 38
Sharp 34
Sacsri 26
JulyZerg 18
Icarus 16
Movie 15
soO 14
scan(afreeca) 13
Noble 11
HiyA 10
SilentControl 10
NaDa 9
Hm[arnc] 3
Dota 2
XcaliburYe868
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1601
shoxiejesuss720
x6flipin478
byalli230
Other Games
singsing2945
B2W.Neo817
crisheroes375
XaKoH 355
RotterdaM271
DeMusliM262
Sick215
ArmadaUGS38
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV440
ComeBackTV 321
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki6
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3109
League of Legends
• Jankos1843
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 22m
SKillous vs Krystianer
GgMaChine vs Demi
ArT vs Creator
INexorable vs TBD
ReBellioN vs TriGGeR
UedSoldier vs Iba
sOs vs Moja
Map Test Tournament
23h 22m
OSC
1d 1h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 15h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 22h
Map Test Tournament
1d 23h
OSC
2 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
Safe House 2
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Map Test Tournament
2 days
OSC
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Bonyth vs Art_Of_Turtle
Razz vs rasowy
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
WardiTV TLMC #15
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.