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tntn
Profile Joined December 2010
80 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#861
lol at the rage going on and the unprofessionalism of artosis
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#862
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

On the contrary.
Their lack of professionalism in the LifeForever series actually made everything a lot more enjoyable.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9041 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#863
Leenock still has a lot to improve.
spidii
Profile Joined October 2010
United States372 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#864
On January 27 2011 20:04 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

stop talking sht ]


Got nothing to do with bias, get a dictionary out, calling a player bad doesn't mean you "bias" towards anyone, just means that the player is bad...
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#865
wow... I was updating my GOMTV player when the Zerg player was building his natural and I came back to open the GOMTV player again and the match is ALREADY OVER?

Geez these games are too short...
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#866
On January 27 2011 20:03 Dente wrote:
I wonder how some zergs easily stop this, but others can't. It was a simple 6 rax push. If it was imbalanced, then blizzard would have nerfed it already!

Game 2: 10:40 and leenock had some zerglings. A low master zerg has at least 5 muta's by then and at least 5 banelings...

Do you "terran is OP"-whiners actually know that every progamer has the possibility to mail the blizzard balance team? When tanks were OP, demuslum mailed to david kim and blizzard patched tanks.



Yeah, Leenock was playing like he was on Cross Shakuras in games 2 & 3. You have to expect rushes from LiveForever... it's just a given. Build your banelings nest.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#867
U think the LiveForever bashing is bad, wait till SanZenith shows up, LOL. Seriously though Liveforever wasn't that bad when he played in s1, yeah he hasn't practiced but he can still do a timing push that works if Leenock doesn't react at least semi-correctly, simple as.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#868
On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote:
i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.



Artosis said he is not even Masters he is just some Diamond.

I need to get this Rage out its not Healthy I just feels so bad for Leenock.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
January 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#869
On January 27 2011 20:04 Seiuchi wrote:
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On January 27 2011 20:02 veganwa wrote:
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

Agreed. Or, I don't find it to be a horrible experience. But they could certainly be a bit less dickfucky


Artosis being unprofessional and mercilessly bashing bad players is the only reason I bought a season ticket and the only thing that has kept me interested in the many lackluster and downright bad matches that occur every season, especially in Code A.


I would be sleeping right now if I thought Tastosis was going to be super serious and respectful casting these games.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#870
LiveForever shouldn't feel bad, anyway.

Even if he was worse than Artosis and Tasteless, he still probably makes more money losing 0-2 in the first round of Code S than they get for commentating.

I wonder how long he can continue in Code S. I wouldn't be surprised if he quit after going down to Code A, but for now, good money, get to be on television, and play a video game. Fun.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States749 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#871
Top FIGHTING
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#872
On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote:
i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.


i bet you whine every time a 4gate works as well
qetou
Profile Joined January 2011
39 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#873
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

turn the sound off and enjoy. artosis 4tw
Holdinga
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria300 Posts
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#874
I really don't know why some people think that some strategies SHOULD not be supposed to work... ? Are there some sort of rules in which it is stated that certain strategies should not work ?

I'm not saying liveforever is a top 5 or top 10 terran player. Im saying im glad he won because of artosis flaming him like shit.
He played a good strategy in 2nd and 3rd games and won ... Won pretty one-sidedly.
I am not going to talk about game balance because it is not allowed in these threads.

I also dont like how they use the term diamond level play, and below diamond level play. I'm like 2700 masters with all my bonus pool added, but I'm sure that Liveforever will probably beat me 10/10 games.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 11:09:13
January 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#875
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.


Only thing making viewing GSL a horrible experience is reading these threads, the moderators here have said no balance talk allowed, so a few people decided to whine about the commentators instead. If its not balance, maps or commmentators, its something else.

Regardless of what happens, there is always something to complain about for some of you people, the rest of us who are trying to watch these games have to basically run away from these threads because people get too upset and become Comic Book Guy (see: Simpsons) where everything and everyone sucks and its horrible and "OMG its SOO BAD".

Artosis got invested in the game, and showed his bias: guess what that happens to every commentator ever. Ever watch a sporting event? Big deal, if you dont like him talking, there is the mute button, click it, and put some music on.
★ Top Gun ★
spidii
Profile Joined October 2010
United States372 Posts
January 27 2011 11:08 GMT
#876
On January 27 2011 20:05 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:03 spidii wrote:
On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote:
i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.



In the end, lots of Barracks + Stim + Combat Shield timing is super strong, you need to know it's coming, you need your banes earlier and that's what it comes down to. Otherwise, you're just not going to stop it.


seriously...

10 lings vs 6 rax? liveforever "tricked" him with a canceled factory. this isn't imbalance, this is just funny.

liveforever didn't have combat shields either



I know he did in game 2, and I thought he did again in game 3 since he had two tech labs but I'm not 100 percent, either way, stim timing by itself is hard to stop unless you are prepared.
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
January 27 2011 11:08 GMT
#877
On January 27 2011 20:05 Gudeldar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:03 syllogism wrote:
On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote:
Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks.

No, they've to state the truth rather than lie/evade. Even LiveForever would agree he is terrible.


Seriously, why are people complaining about Artosis and Tasteless saying he is bad when he says pretty much the same thing himself. His attitude seemed to be ok I'll show up and play some SC2, whatever.

The people complaining are probably silver league and don't like them talking bad about how they play.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
January 27 2011 11:08 GMT
#878
On January 27 2011 20:06 LoCaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote:
i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.



Artosis said he is not even Masters he is just some Diamond.

I need to get this Rage out its not Healthy I just feels so bad for Leenock.


LOL

if leenock loses to this "dimaond level" stuff, then what does that make him

usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
January 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#879
On January 27 2011 19:39 Genzo wrote:
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On January 27 2011 19:36 Live2Win wrote:
honestly I don't know how Artosis and Tasteless can say stuff like the crap that they're saying about a player and GOM not doing anything about it. It's so unprofessional I can't believe I'm actually hearing them talk this much crap about a player on a GLOBAL stream.


yeah that bothers me too, they have been doing this since GSL3 i think

Another one here. It's been bothering me for a long time. Artosis should concentrate on game play analysis and strategic decisions per game. It's OK to have an opinion on someone's skill but the way he puts it out there is really getting on the nerve, even if I'm not a fan of the player.
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 11:11:08
January 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#880
LiveForever is 2401 point Masters League. http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/95740/LiveForever

He was #41 on the world ladder a few weeks ago.
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