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On January 27 2011 20:08 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 20:06 LoCaD wrote:On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote: i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran. Artosis said he is not even Masters he is just some Diamond. I need to get this Rage out its not Healthy I just feels so bad for Leenock. LOL if leenock loses to this "dimaond level" stuff, then what does that make him
I could beat Leenock with that build, takes no real execution, it's just as easy to execute as it is to lose to it.
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there's a game going on guys less Artosis talk
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banshee autoloss with no detection incoming?
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On January 27 2011 20:08 spidii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 20:05 akalarry wrote:On January 27 2011 20:03 spidii wrote:On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote: i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran. In the end, lots of Barracks + Stim + Combat Shield timing is super strong, you need to know it's coming, you need your banes earlier and that's what it comes down to. Otherwise, you're just not going to stop it. seriously... 10 lings vs 6 rax? liveforever "tricked" him with a canceled factory. this isn't imbalance, this is just funny. liveforever didn't have combat shields either I know he did in game 2, and I thought he did again in game 3 since he had two tech labs but I'm not 100 percent, either way, stim timing by itself is hard to stop unless you are prepared.
what isn't hard to stop unless you're prepared? it's completely leenocks fault. rage at him for being a noob and losing to these "pushes"
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On January 27 2011 20:06 spidii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 20:04 HQuality wrote:On January 27 2011 20:01 Tony Campolo wrote: Artosis' unprofessionalism just makes watching GSL a horrible experience. Commentators need to be unbiased and not act like complete dickfucks. stop talking sht  ] Got nothing to do with bias, get a dictionary out, calling a player bad doesn't mean you "bias" towards anyone, just means that the player is bad...
This.
Really people, Leenock is better then both those Terrans and him being code A instead of that last terran is just insane. Did you see his answer to Artosis question, "didnt really practice any builds" - he had so little faith in his chances against leenock that he had nlt even practiced before the up and down matches. Wow...
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On January 27 2011 20:08 spidii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 20:05 akalarry wrote:On January 27 2011 20:03 spidii wrote:On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote: i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran. In the end, lots of Barracks + Stim + Combat Shield timing is super strong, you need to know it's coming, you need your banes earlier and that's what it comes down to. Otherwise, you're just not going to stop it. seriously... 10 lings vs 6 rax? liveforever "tricked" him with a canceled factory. this isn't imbalance, this is just funny. liveforever didn't have combat shields either I know he did in game 2, and I thought he did again in game 3 since he had two tech labs but I'm not 100 percent, either way, stim timing by itself is hard to stop unless you are prepared.
...and he couldn't because of perfect scout denial by liveforever
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Artosis is the only reason to even watch most of these code A games. You are substituting your personal opinion about the casting style with an arbitrary concept of "professionalism". You are in the minority.
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On January 27 2011 20:08 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 20:06 LoCaD wrote:On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote: i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran. Artosis said he is not even Masters he is just some Diamond. I need to get this Rage out its not Healthy I just feels so bad for Leenock. LOL if leenock loses to this "dimaond level" stuff, then what does that make him
Well, among other things, mentally exhausted after some rough games with Byun.
The one big advantage the 4th place scrub has is that he's completely fresh for the one game he has to play.
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ouch, missed first two matches, watching it now
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build order loss?
he deflect it
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On January 27 2011 20:09 spidii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 20:08 akalarry wrote:On January 27 2011 20:06 LoCaD wrote:On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote: i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran. Artosis said he is not even Masters he is just some Diamond. I need to get this Rage out its not Healthy I just feels so bad for Leenock. LOL if leenock loses to this "dimaond level" stuff, then what does that make him I could beat Leenock with that build, takes no real execution, it's just as easy to execute as it is to lose to it.
clearly he's not code-s material then, because almost every code s player would not get roflstomped by a rax push. liveforever couldve gone 3 rax and won that game
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On January 27 2011 19:59 holycrapitsTony wrote: I find it kind of crazy that you can support so many barracks on one base.
Yea it's absolutely ridiculous. I find it hilarious that not only has terran the most failsafe way to exp (build cc in mainbase and just float it out) but they're also the race that is the least reliant on it due to mules and lightgas units.
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On January 27 2011 20:01 Babaganoush wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 19:59 Kazang wrote: LiveForever doing a day9 strat. Just make some units and go fucking kill him.
How about you making some units next time leenock? /facepalm It's sad becasue Leenock is so much better than he played just now.
And if you watched more of the Day9 videos, it's completely different for Zerg as we what he believes a "reactionary" race. We have to build our units from one building so we have to decide when to drone or when to make units.
Hence why I said he should have made some units. So stupid.......
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Well its true. Artosis needs to work on his bias. Even though he's a player himself, he really need to talk from a more objective view. Pointing out mistakes is fine, but being so upset because one player goes through and not another is not ok, IMO.
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Artosis can barely hide his distate - what a dickhead honestly. He was laying into the guy the whole series, totally uncalled for. Who didn't even make Code A? Wait a minute... oh, it's Artosis.
LiveForever definitely the bigger man here. There is no shame in winning despite people shit-talking you.
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[QUOTE]On January 27 2011 20:10 akalarry wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2011 20:08 spidii wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2011 20:05 akalarry wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2011 20:03 spidii wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2011 20:02 GhostFall wrote: i know we aren't suppose to talk about imbalance, but seriously that series was bullshit. live forever even said he was winging it and managed to get code S. I understand how w'e're suppose to improve ourselves. But seriously. how can you look at that game and not say its imbalanced. Leenock didn't even make that big of a mistake. He just had his baneling nest a little late, a regular timing for terran builds. Liveforever, is master league level at best, probably wouldnt even be in the top 200, yet is considered code s, because he is terran.[/QUOTE]
In the end, lots of Barracks + Stim + Combat Shield timing is super strong, you need to know it's coming, you need your banes earlier and that's what it comes down to. Otherwise, you're just not going to stop it.[/QUOTE]
seriously...
10 lings vs 6 rax? liveforever "tricked" him with a canceled factory. this isn't imbalance, this is just funny.
liveforever didn't have combat shields either[/QUOT
I know he did in game 2, and I thought he did again in game 3 since he had two tech labs but I'm not 100 percent, either way, stim timing by itself is hard to stop unless you are prepared.[/QUOTE]
what isn't hard to stop unless you're prepared? it's completely leenocks fault. rage at him for being a noob and losing to these "pushes" [/QUOTE]
That push in game 2 wasn't hard to stop, no prep needed. The stim timing takes a very "specific" preparation, anyone could lose to it, go watch BitByBit win games.
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LOL. I play zerg but all the people trying to say that 'whoever deserves this, deserves that'.
WELCOME TO SPORTS or even ANYTHING COMPETITIVE.
The underdog CAN win. Just because you're the favorite 'or deserve to win' doesn't mean you will.
If there was some kind of thing that LiveForever abused, then perhaps there would be an argument.
But he didn't, it was a simple timing attack, like any other that happens on ladder or in practice. He didn't make his baneling nest. That's the end of story.
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Oh LR threads, so predictable.
Can we talk about the games now, and not Imba whine or Artosis? Please?
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Maybe Leenock is usually better then Liveforeever but this time he wasnt it was no imbalance or sth Leenock just lost those games by himself. It was not an allin or some cheese it was a usual timing attack.
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sigh I should have know
Artosis said .... thx for clearing that up still poor Leenock atleast he will ROCK Code A and will be back in Code S soon.
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