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hydraden
United States719 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:49 KonohaFlash wrote: Why are people complaining about this cheese? I mean yea these games are supposed to be entertaining, but these guys just finished playing a 39-minute game man :p stop calling it 39 mins game, it is 39/1.4=27 | ||
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DigitalisDestructi
United States488 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:48 bokeevboke wrote: wow. what a game, first time I turn on GSL stream after month break... nothing has changed. Thank god I didn't watch all terran cheese fest. Better check out the first game, dude  . | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
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Matkap
Spain627 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:52 Kamais_Ookin wrote: Your right, it's actually a strong possibility too. No way IMMVP is beaten by a Zerg...  | ||
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coldasice
Australia208 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Anyways, let's do some brief theorycrafting here. Personally, I disagree with Artosis that it was Nada's game to win. My logic is this: 1. Nada had to kill most of his army to make a Viking. 2. MarineKing can simply avoid Nada until the Viking is made using his Medivacs. 3. Once the Viking is made, MarineKing can just drop his Orbital and start mining again, using his army for defense. 4. #3 is a guaranteed win for MarineKing, so the best that Nada could hope for, if MarineKing plays optimally, is actually a draw. 5. The only way MarineKing can possibly lose is if Nada catches his army somehow. But MarineKing can easily force a draw by simply putting his marines on his medivacs and going to where Nada cannot reach him. Nada's only response to this is to make a viking and try to snipe the Medivacs while they're in a corner and preventing them from landing the marines using his own much smaller marine force (once he's killed off his units). However, MarineKing can fairly reliably prevent this by constantly checking Nada's forces, and even if he doesn't, he can dance around a ledge and drop his marines the moment he sees the Viking. 6. Conclusion: Nada's only hope for victory was for MarineKing to make a mistake, whereas MarineKing could force a draw by simply not engaging, and is guaranteed a win if he engages after Nada makes the Viking. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Fenrisulf
United States325 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:49 itch wrote: Took me ages to even get to an error message due to the website being down, but once I did I just hit the play button straight after and now it's letting me watch. Thank God people were streaming it or I'd have missed the entire of Jinro vs Idra. Btw, there was no way Nada could have won that game. If he'd killed all his units and built a viking MarineKing would've just landed his buildings and guarded them with his Marines. If Nada had killed all of MarineKing's marines off first, then he would've just started building SCVs + more Marines. There is simply no way Nada could have won that at all. if he killed off MK's marines first he woulda had a small chance, probably not win but chance is still there more importantly, all he had to do was sit still with an eye on MK's medivacs and CC for a draw...going for the viking without killing MK's army first was not logical at all. no way to win if marines are still alive since by killing off enough marines to build a viking he is gonna end up with an inferior army and MK can just guard a grounded CC with his marines. | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:51 mols0n wrote: MKP has some serious balls. Base trading in game 1, killing his marines to build an scv then sending his scvs in game 2. Hah, great observation. I love how MKP just does whatever the hell he wants. His mindset is a lot different than the standard pro. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
Poll: MarineKingPrime should geta invite into TSL3 yes (146) no (42) 188 total votes Your vote: MarineKingPrime should geta invite into TSL3 | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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tbrown47
United States1235 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:52 n0ise wrote: I agree, the discussion is over, if you have time do please review, however, how you quote me, say "there's a difference, though, because" and then repeat exactly what I said. Anyway - gogo Nada :D what you said is not what i said at all. | ||
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Archvil3
Denmark989 Posts
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
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TMStarcraft
Australia686 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:47 teser wrote: i cant believe i still can't get the stream to load, i really dislike re streaming but this is ridiculous Stream is finally up for me. Sick first game, NaDa should've went for the draw. MKP had a command center, after Nada killed off his own medivacs and tanks it was basically MKPs game to win. Or am I missing something? If he killed off MKPs remaining ground forces and scouted out the command center and remaining barracks THEN killed off his stuff and kept marines up top to prevent the barracks from landing and producing, maybe he could've won with the viking. | ||
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Tercotta
Canada402 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:52 ThorIsHere wrote: It's Twitter. If you're using Twitter to only talk about important things (which is totally subjective, mind you), you're doin' it wrong. And in the long run, is watching others play videogames all that important either. | ||
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JonnyCosMo
United States57 Posts
NaDa could have forced the win if he just located MKP's CC with one of his useless floating buildings. He should have sent his medvacs around the sides of the map to find the floating buildings then just planted one of his floating buildings to scout it and see where it goes / if it ever lands. That way NaDa locks up at least a draw. It litterally played out as bad as it could have for NaDa.... He had the army to 100% force a draw. You can't fault him for going for the win however, b/c with the information he had it looked like he played as well as he could have with the minor exception that i pointed out above | ||
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On January 19 2011 19:53 hydraden wrote: stop calling it 39 mins game, it is 39/1.4=27 Point still stands, it was a long game. | ||
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