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On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya.
ya the guy who has been consistantly placing top4 in every korean tournament has no way of winning the gsl
oh wait, your hate for foxer doesnt mean he cant win it all
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On January 15 2011 21:47 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:36 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 21:32 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:48 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:44 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:35 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:30 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:25 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:14 nihlon wrote:On January 15 2011 20:04 raidmaster wrote:
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It is clearly stated in most of the forums that insult to religion is forbidden (in any form). You probably think what you think because you don't care. But some people do. And because of that forums have rules like that. Where did I write my opinion on the picture? I just said with quite certainty that most forums that I visit wouldn't have a problem with such a picture (pretty much every swedish forum I know of, and quite a few english speaking as well). Can you prove otherwise? I don't have to prove you anything. It is obvious that rules of that exist on "mature" forums just to respect people thoughts and opinions. Why is it so hard to understand? For somebody cursing is inappropriate, for someone else its insulting religion (especially if this person believes in such). This is why regulations exist and why moderatos exist. Can anyone link me a TL regulations? I've never seen a forum that has banned people for such images. There's huge difference between something being listed in the rules, and the rules actually being enforced. So while you may be correct that there is often a rule handling such things, the actual enforcement of such rules is usually incredibly lax. Yeah, but why even state rules if you don't follow them. I'm pretty sure what you said is because a person which feels insulted hardly ever informs about that (don't wanna be an outsider). I'm pretty sure that if someone really feels wrong about certain picture/statement and pm forum administration about it, justifying why something feels wrong to them, staff will at least consider taking some actions. While I've only participated in a few dozen of the many many thousands (millions?) of forums that exist on the internet, I can tell you that of that few dozen forums, there is a 0% chance that the Jinro pic that implies he's Jesus would ever incite a ban. As well, I have a hard time imagining that anyone would find the picture offensive to begin with. One of the main christian tenets is to "live like Jesus", and Jinro's act of condolence would be a great example of that, giving great meaning to the picture to any christian who may stumble across it, rather than inciting offense. It is actually the crucifix that symbolizes Christs torments and death being compared to something like MC having his game lost that may concern people a lot more. I see this discussion going nowhere, so it will be wise to end it. Obviously, as I said, everything is a matter of point of view. You should realize that the crucifix isn't a symbol of torment and death, but rather a reminder of Christ's resurrection. Look around any church and you'll see countless crucifix', pictures of him nailed to the cross, and other such symbols. Christians flocked in DROVES to watch a movie where Jesus is beat up and tortured for an hour and a half on-screen. These images are not offensive to those of Christian faith because they believe that, despite all of the horrible treatment, that Jesus was resurrected and as such, the crucifix is now a symbol of that resurrection. I would suggest that before you decide what is and is not offensive to religious folk in the future, that you study up a little bit on what they actually believe. If crucifix is only the symbol of resurection then why the hell would he put it in that image? Seriously, I live in a very catolic country (I would say that Canada is not really catholic) and all priest here say that crucifix is not only a symbol of ressurection, but also torments that Christ had to overcome to redeem people. I would suggest you to learn more about Christianity before you post. On January 15 2011 21:34 Zihua wrote:You certainly have shown your intelligence and maturity with this post. Now, are you expecing people to say that you are smart? No, you are not. I was hoping to get some passive aggressive response from someone who thinks the world revolves around their feelings, so mission accomplished. Congratz. You're even less smart than I thought  Ummm, I'm too lazy to read this exchange, but what are you guys jabbering about in a Jinro/GSL thread?
they are discussing this picture, posted earlier in the thread, and how it might or not be blasphemous or offending to various people. Very Interesting indeed.
http://hawaiianpig.pfordee.com/freepornxxx/lordjinro.jpg
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Woah, gz to Jinro!
Also great to see the FOX guys winning. ^_^
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On January 15 2011 21:47 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:36 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 21:32 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:48 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:44 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:35 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:30 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:25 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:14 nihlon wrote:On January 15 2011 20:04 raidmaster wrote:
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It is clearly stated in most of the forums that insult to religion is forbidden (in any form). You probably think what you think because you don't care. But some people do. And because of that forums have rules like that. Where did I write my opinion on the picture? I just said with quite certainty that most forums that I visit wouldn't have a problem with such a picture (pretty much every swedish forum I know of, and quite a few english speaking as well). Can you prove otherwise? I don't have to prove you anything. It is obvious that rules of that exist on "mature" forums just to respect people thoughts and opinions. Why is it so hard to understand? For somebody cursing is inappropriate, for someone else its insulting religion (especially if this person believes in such). This is why regulations exist and why moderatos exist. Can anyone link me a TL regulations? I've never seen a forum that has banned people for such images. There's huge difference between something being listed in the rules, and the rules actually being enforced. So while you may be correct that there is often a rule handling such things, the actual enforcement of such rules is usually incredibly lax. Yeah, but why even state rules if you don't follow them. I'm pretty sure what you said is because a person which feels insulted hardly ever informs about that (don't wanna be an outsider). I'm pretty sure that if someone really feels wrong about certain picture/statement and pm forum administration about it, justifying why something feels wrong to them, staff will at least consider taking some actions. While I've only participated in a few dozen of the many many thousands (millions?) of forums that exist on the internet, I can tell you that of that few dozen forums, there is a 0% chance that the Jinro pic that implies he's Jesus would ever incite a ban. As well, I have a hard time imagining that anyone would find the picture offensive to begin with. One of the main christian tenets is to "live like Jesus", and Jinro's act of condolence would be a great example of that, giving great meaning to the picture to any christian who may stumble across it, rather than inciting offense. It is actually the crucifix that symbolizes Christs torments and death being compared to something like MC having his game lost that may concern people a lot more. I see this discussion going nowhere, so it will be wise to end it. Obviously, as I said, everything is a matter of point of view. You should realize that the crucifix isn't a symbol of torment and death, but rather a reminder of Christ's resurrection. Look around any church and you'll see countless crucifix', pictures of him nailed to the cross, and other such symbols. Christians flocked in DROVES to watch a movie where Jesus is beat up and tortured for an hour and a half on-screen. These images are not offensive to those of Christian faith because they believe that, despite all of the horrible treatment, that Jesus was resurrected and as such, the crucifix is now a symbol of that resurrection. I would suggest that before you decide what is and is not offensive to religious folk in the future, that you study up a little bit on what they actually believe. If crucifix is only the symbol of resurection then why the hell would he put it in that image? Seriously, I live in a very catolic country (I would say that Canada is not really catholic) and all priest here say that crucifix is not only a symbol of ressurection, but also torments that Christ had to overcome to redeem people. I would suggest you to learn more about Christianity before you post. On January 15 2011 21:34 Zihua wrote:You certainly have shown your intelligence and maturity with this post. Now, are you expecing people to say that you are smart? No, you are not. I was hoping to get some passive aggressive response from someone who thinks the world revolves around their feelings, so mission accomplished. Congratz. You're even less smart than I thought Ummm, I'm too lazy to read this exchange, but what are you guys jabbering about in a Jinro/GSL thread?
Ya it's got a bit derailed. He was QQing about a picture posted on an earlier page that depicted Jinro as Jesus consoling MC, and said that on most other forums it would be grounds for a banhammer. I'm simply in the process of explaining to him why he's wrong, and it's not quite getting through to him because it's hard to admit when you're wrong on a public forum without losing face. I assume he'll try to rebut my point one last time, but I think I've said enough and made my point, and as such, we can all go back to spamming "JINROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" for the rest of the night.
Take it easy kids :p
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On January 15 2011 21:49 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya. ya the guy who has been consistantly placing top4 in every korean tournament has no way of winning the gsl oh wait, your hate for foxer doesnt mean he cant win it all
exactly.
People may hate foxer as much as they want but he is playing to win.
How he does that is up to himself and not for us to judge. Yes it will lose entertainment value but he's not there to entertain us but to get results.
Foxer has proven he is consistently at the top since gsl2.
Everyone in the top8 can win the GSL else they wouldn't be in the top8. This includes Choya which I really don't like.
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On January 15 2011 21:49 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya. ya the guy who has been consistantly placing top4 in every korean tournament has no way of winning the gsl oh wait, your hate for foxer doesnt mean he cant win it all
I didnt think Foxer would win but he showed today he can make siege tanks, so now I think he could!
(:D)
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On January 15 2011 21:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:49 dunc wrote:On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya. ya the guy who has been consistantly placing top4 in every korean tournament has no way of winning the gsl oh wait, your hate for foxer doesnt mean he cant win it all I didnt think Foxer would win but he showed today he can make siege tanks, so now I think he could! (:D)
Foxer has definetly learned about the "V" key on SCVs now!
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On January 15 2011 21:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:49 dunc wrote:On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya. ya the guy who has been consistantly placing top4 in every korean tournament has no way of winning the gsl oh wait, your hate for foxer doesnt mean he cant win it all I didnt think Foxer would win but he showed today he can make siege tanks, so now I think he could! (:D)
Pfft, what he showed you today is that even with siege tanks, he still just relies on marines and medivacs to win the game! :p
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On January 15 2011 21:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:49 dunc wrote:On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya. ya the guy who has been consistantly placing top4 in every korean tournament has no way of winning the gsl oh wait, your hate for foxer doesnt mean he cant win it all I didnt think Foxer would win but he showed today he can make siege tanks, so now I think he could! (:D)
Looking at the forums, it seems that the Chinese community likes you ^^.
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On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elo
look at foxers game history... He is pretty good.
And yeah, Jinro 2:0ing MC, I can't believe it. He did the impossible
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So a benign caption gets a warning, whereas a picture depicting jinro as jesus is A OK. Perhaps I won't get warned if I too contribute to the sycophant choir
JINROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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On January 15 2011 21:59 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elolook at foxers game history... He is pretty good. And yeah, Jinro 2:0ing MC, I can't believe it. He did the impossible
I'm sad to see MC lose, but I have to say Jinro, you did a good job.
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How are two peope allowed to clog up a live report thread with a religion/censorship debate? Please go to the general forum for this subject matter. Here is for talking about games.
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On January 15 2011 21:52 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:47 Defacer wrote:On January 15 2011 21:36 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 21:32 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:48 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:44 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:35 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:30 Nemireck wrote:On January 15 2011 20:25 raidmaster wrote:On January 15 2011 20:14 nihlon wrote:
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Where did I write my opinion on the picture? I just said with quite certainty that most forums that I visit wouldn't have a problem with such a picture (pretty much every swedish forum I know of, and quite a few english speaking as well). Can you prove otherwise? I don't have to prove you anything. It is obvious that rules of that exist on "mature" forums just to respect people thoughts and opinions. Why is it so hard to understand? For somebody cursing is inappropriate, for someone else its insulting religion (especially if this person believes in such). This is why regulations exist and why moderatos exist. Can anyone link me a TL regulations? I've never seen a forum that has banned people for such images. There's huge difference between something being listed in the rules, and the rules actually being enforced. So while you may be correct that there is often a rule handling such things, the actual enforcement of such rules is usually incredibly lax. Yeah, but why even state rules if you don't follow them. I'm pretty sure what you said is because a person which feels insulted hardly ever informs about that (don't wanna be an outsider). I'm pretty sure that if someone really feels wrong about certain picture/statement and pm forum administration about it, justifying why something feels wrong to them, staff will at least consider taking some actions. While I've only participated in a few dozen of the many many thousands (millions?) of forums that exist on the internet, I can tell you that of that few dozen forums, there is a 0% chance that the Jinro pic that implies he's Jesus would ever incite a ban. As well, I have a hard time imagining that anyone would find the picture offensive to begin with. One of the main christian tenets is to "live like Jesus", and Jinro's act of condolence would be a great example of that, giving great meaning to the picture to any christian who may stumble across it, rather than inciting offense. It is actually the crucifix that symbolizes Christs torments and death being compared to something like MC having his game lost that may concern people a lot more. I see this discussion going nowhere, so it will be wise to end it. Obviously, as I said, everything is a matter of point of view. You should realize that the crucifix isn't a symbol of torment and death, but rather a reminder of Christ's resurrection. Look around any church and you'll see countless crucifix', pictures of him nailed to the cross, and other such symbols. Christians flocked in DROVES to watch a movie where Jesus is beat up and tortured for an hour and a half on-screen. These images are not offensive to those of Christian faith because they believe that, despite all of the horrible treatment, that Jesus was resurrected and as such, the crucifix is now a symbol of that resurrection. I would suggest that before you decide what is and is not offensive to religious folk in the future, that you study up a little bit on what they actually believe. If crucifix is only the symbol of resurection then why the hell would he put it in that image? Seriously, I live in a very catolic country (I would say that Canada is not really catholic) and all priest here say that crucifix is not only a symbol of ressurection, but also torments that Christ had to overcome to redeem people. I would suggest you to learn more about Christianity before you post. On January 15 2011 21:34 Zihua wrote:You certainly have shown your intelligence and maturity with this post. Now, are you expecing people to say that you are smart? No, you are not. I was hoping to get some passive aggressive response from someone who thinks the world revolves around their feelings, so mission accomplished. Congratz. You're even less smart than I thought Ummm, I'm too lazy to read this exchange, but what are you guys jabbering about in a Jinro/GSL thread? Ya it's got a bit derailed. He was QQing about a picture posted on an earlier page that depicted Jinro as Jesus consoling MC, and said that on most other forums it would be grounds for a banhammer. I'm simply in the process of explaining to him why he's wrong, and it's not quite getting through to him because it's hard to admit when you're wrong on a public forum without losing face. I assume he'll try to rebut my point one last time, but I think I've said enough and made my point, and as such, we can all go back to spamming "JINROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" for the rest of the night. Take it easy kids :p
Yet again proving that you can't read. I've said that I like the picture. Then I said it may be insulting for some people just like troll pictures are insulting for others. I'm pretty sure that I've made my point clear too. You claim that someone has to lose discussion and someone has to win it - wrong. If it is for winning for you, well, it's pathetic. I was just defending people rights to have believes.
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Was so hard to decide who to cheer for, MC or Jinro. It did feel like MC did not really play to his max ability, maybe the mech strat threw him off. He did lack his usual determined play style where he always knows what to do, the 4gate pushed was not really that well played either. Maybe he underestimated Jinro.
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WOW sick, gratz jinro. 2-0 against MC, impressive
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On January 15 2011 21:59 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote:On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote:
sooo happy
now I think it has 3 possibilities
1) the IM guys wins
2) Jinro wins
3) foxer wins
still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elolook at foxers game history... He is pretty good. And yeah, Jinro 2:0ing MC, I can't believe it. He did the impossible
i don't know how ELO is based, but bleach and moon being that high HAS to be a mistake, that is impossible. code A should not get as many pts as code S, i bet that's the problem.
because that is not right in the slightest.
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