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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1081
On January 06 2011 21:16 Caphe wrote:

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 21:13 mindspike wrote:
lol, I would like to see ANY zerg beat that...wtf


Watch Sen's game in previous GSL. Hold a 4 gate off while Tasteless already expect Sen to GG

simply dont fast expand with a choke that wide open.
its a greedy zerg build and greedy zerg builds get punished (no matter if its 4 warpgate or 2 rax).

if leenock would have fought that battle up the ramp everything could have gone different.

(also, that is why idra always spreads his creep towards his ramp)
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1082
All my Zergs are falling off. Though this is Code S were most everybody is legit. Zergs need to improve holding.

Both pushes that Leenock faced tonight were difficult to hold.

Lol IMNestea is the only Zerg who's gotten through his group completely legit. Even though Zenio made it out, given the number of Zerg in that group, one Zerg was guaranteed to make it through.
|| Fruit Dealer | Leenock | Yughio | Coca | Sniper | True | Solar | Dark |
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1083
On January 06 2011 21:19 rift wrote:
GSL All-ins
So many 4 gate, 2 rax
Why did I stay up.

I am quite worried
Starcraft 2's evolution
where is the macro?

Give the players better maps
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1084
On January 06 2011 21:17 utyske wrote:
Not true, there have been some great macro games. Take a look at SlayerS_BoxeR's games from tuesday.

Only the TvT was a real macro game. An awesome one but kind of expected in TvT.
Vs. TheWind he did early proxy rax into heavy 2basing and only took his third (gold) near the end IIRC.
mlgbx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States73 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1085
On January 06 2011 21:15 FataLe wrote:
anyone know the song?


caro emerald - absolutely me
raidmaster
Profile Joined July 2010
474 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1086
On January 06 2011 21:19 rift wrote:
GSL All-ins
So many 4 gate, 2 rax
Why did I stay up.

I am quite worried
Starcraft 2's evolution
where is the macro?


Rofl, how is 2 rax an all-in?
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1087
On January 06 2011 21:19 Durp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 21:18 bkrow wrote:
On January 06 2011 21:15 corpsepose wrote:
On January 06 2011 21:14 bkrow wrote:
On January 06 2011 21:13 vrok wrote:
4gate is so stupid.


But not as stupid as the people that keep losing to it..


l o l
did you even watch that game ? that was just ridiculous. you'd be hard pressed to find any zerg that couldve held that off and emerged with any kind of chance to remain in the game.


Right.. so poor decision making (i.e. no early roach warren, droning to hard) means Genius has an unbeatable build..

You are correct; he executed it really nicely - but i wouldn't say unbeatable?


Stalker first = probable pressure build
Sentry first = expand build

Droning super hard after a stalker-first for a Protoss is a mistake. Pretty simple.


I think we are agreeing?
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1088
its as simple as this

xel naga caverns
leenock hatch first
leenock no scout
leenock heavy drone/tech
leenock only 1 spine crawler
genius countered lings with tons of zealots and abused surface area really well

gg,
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1089
On January 06 2011 21:17 Telcontar wrote:
Basically, if you don't scout the 4 gate, you're dead. That is unless you somehow felt or guessed it. However, blindly making defenses can put you quite behind economically so it's no wonder zergs are relunctant to do it.


You could see him chronoboosting the warp gate research, if you scout that, you can be pretty sure hes going to do some pressure with warpgates.

You don't necesairily have to see the 4 gateways to see it might be coming.
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
January 06 2011 12:20 GMT
#1090
On January 06 2011 21:15 FataLe wrote:
anyone know the song?

guess you meant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSHyBElwATA
Hearthstone manager ECVisualize, Head Admin DSCL
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 12:21:38
January 06 2011 12:21 GMT
#1091
I stopped using 4-gate around platinum league because people started learning to defend it too well, even zergs. But I guess 4gate from a pro is much harder to hold.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 06 2011 12:21 GMT
#1092
Every Zerg's death in the first 10 min is because of heavy droning. Leenock just got himself to blame here.
Terran
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
January 06 2011 12:22 GMT
#1093
On January 06 2011 21:21 Caphe wrote:
Every Zerg's death in the first 10 min is because of heavy droning. Leenock just got himself to blame here.


We have to drone heavy to keep up with c-boosted probes.
konaman
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia283 Posts
January 06 2011 12:22 GMT
#1094
On January 06 2011 21:21 Greentellon wrote:
I stopped using 4-gate around platinum league because people started learning to defend it too well, even zergs. But I guess 4gate from a pro is much harder to hold.


Man 4 gate is the easiest way to walk right into Diamond.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
January 06 2011 12:22 GMT
#1095
On January 06 2011 21:19 zDUST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 21:17 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On January 06 2011 21:15 zDUST wrote:
On January 06 2011 21:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
These games fucking SUCK arghhh.


you expect each game to be a 30 min epic macro game? a win is a win is a win, gg wp.
No I don't expect that, but at the same time all these 5 minute games are shit.

you mean shit scouting/reacting/defending?
Shit is shit no matter how you put it, I expect more from code S players.
I <3 Plexa.
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
January 06 2011 12:22 GMT
#1096
Genius grows more and more on me, cocky enough to be entertaining, good enough to easily back it up, also he sort of looks like a skinny Ken Hirai.

And GSL sure makes me wanna do these a lot.

[image loading]
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
January 06 2011 12:22 GMT
#1097
On January 06 2011 21:20 Elwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 21:17 utyske wrote:
Not true, there have been some great macro games. Take a look at SlayerS_BoxeR's games from tuesday.

Only the TvT was a real macro game. An awesome one but kind of expected in TvT.
Vs. TheWind he did early proxy rax into heavy 2basing and only took his third (gold) near the end IIRC.


You think incorrectly as when the game ended Boxer had 4 bases and his 5th CC was being built at the 9 o clock main.
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
January 06 2011 12:22 GMT
#1098
anyone link to the thunderstruck mix?
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
January 06 2011 12:22 GMT
#1099
On January 06 2011 21:21 Caphe wrote:
Every Zerg's death in the first 10 min is because of heavy droning. Leenock just got himself to blame here.


If you don't drone hard and P does go for sentry-expand, you will usually fall behind and die later on to another timing push or mid/late game deathballs.
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 06 2011 12:22 GMT
#1100
Do you veto 1 map for the whole night or 1 map per game? lol this may seem slow..
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
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