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On January 02 2011 18:53 bkrow wrote: All in: an attack/strategy that renders you unable to compete if it is does not do the required amount of damage ??
No, it's when you have no stable transition.
For example SC1, PvT, reaver play had to do some damage, but it was very stable. You could always pick something off or at least fuck with the terran a whole bunch while you expand, reavers were also good at slowing down pushes a ton and you have the shuttle out too.
A 2 base timing push where you expand AFTER you lose all your units, isn't stable. If he had been doing the expansion a few minutes earlier, and instead of trying to kill the gold he just took that position and stayed cost efficient, that would be pretty stable. What he did wasn't consistent.
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On January 02 2011 18:55 Smipims wrote: That was such a great contain break. Question: was nestea able to break it because he just had more stuff after being on the gold so long? I feel like the T had much, much better positioning and unit comp.
Nestea just rolled him over with ling bane muta. He had better numbers.
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Not killing Tea's gold base and losing all his marines/tanks was when the game ended, the back rocks never came into real play.
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On January 02 2011 18:55 Smipims wrote: That was such a great contain break. Question: was nestea able to break it because he just had more stuff after being on the gold so long? I feel like the T had much, much better positioning and unit comp.
PoltPrime's timing was slow, partly because of the failed 2 scv bunker rush and partly because he's not great at timings.
In SC1 this is called a timing push by the way.
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On January 02 2011 18:55 Klamity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2011 18:54 theuser wrote: hmm...so how did Nestea win? oh yeah...the backdoor, which screwed the T for a couple of minutes. Wouldn't have been the same on maps without backdoors even though the initial tank marine push failed. and then he mines himself turtling up on two bases. do you even play this game?
YES. top 10 diamond 2500 points. on 2 bases and the mass marines he had and the few tanks he could still make another push. but after the backdoor, he lost all his scvs at the initial base and the gold, so he was basicaly on one base vs 3 of nestea.
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hq stream doesnt lag any more for me. brilliant.
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Great game from Nestea. Swarming like a Zerg shyould. 
I'm liking Maka to beat TheBest.
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omg they start to call the name of player with weird computer voice again....this is kinda trend for gomtv, every season different thing...
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blistering is really horrible map actually, it's the only map i have thumbed down on ladder currently. for macro player like me that likes to take 3rd quickly it's so freaking hard to secure it, because it's so far away and with all the other entrances to your base, so the best thing there is to invest heavily into 2base MM tank push as polt did, he sieged on the right spot but you gotta micro it better. i'd say it would be similar to 6factory push on 2base TvP in BW, gotta do big damage and you sacrifice a lot of eco but its not an allin
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gosu is the new high level
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This first game was highly educational, in particular if you have watched IMMVP vs IdrA on the same map. The siege at the zerg gold was exactly the same as in that match, except MVP had excelent tank positioning and marine micro, while NesTea held the push very patiently.
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On January 02 2011 18:57 theuser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2011 18:55 Klamity wrote:On January 02 2011 18:54 theuser wrote: hmm...so how did Nestea win? oh yeah...the backdoor, which screwed the T for a couple of minutes. Wouldn't have been the same on maps without backdoors even though the initial tank marine push failed. and then he mines himself turtling up on two bases. do you even play this game? YES. top 10 diamond 2500 points. on 2 bases and the mass marines he had and the few tanks he could still make another push. but after the backdoor, he lost all his scvs at the initial base and the gold, so he was basicaly on one base vs 3 of nestea.
I think he was pretty dead at that point. I'd be interested in seeing the food difference there.
I mean when he lost his whole army, before the rocks.
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Did he just say bumrushed?
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HQ stream working fine, yay!!!
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On January 02 2011 18:57 theuser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2011 18:55 Klamity wrote:On January 02 2011 18:54 theuser wrote: hmm...so how did Nestea win? oh yeah...the backdoor, which screwed the T for a couple of minutes. Wouldn't have been the same on maps without backdoors even though the initial tank marine push failed. and then he mines himself turtling up on two bases. do you even play this game? YES. top 10 diamond 2500 points. on 2 bases and the mass marines he had and the few tanks he could still make another push. but after the backdoor, he lost all his scvs at the initial base and the gold, so he was basicaly on one base vs 3 of nestea. Cool story bro, if you want to prove your opinion and come of as a person who knows anything, dont brag about your Rating.
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On January 02 2011 18:59 bkrow wrote: Did he just say bumrushed?
He did indeed.
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Just wondering, do we still get interviews after games, or not?
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