EPTthen again, this ridiculously unintuitive format reduces the quality of my gsl experience
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
then again, this ridiculously unintuitive format reduces the quality of my gsl experience | ||
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
On January 03 2011 14:05 GeorgeForeman wrote: This is 100% true. Tastosis were commenting like the game was over when NesTea had no money in the bank and only one mining base while Maka had similar amount of food plus 2 mining bases. NesTea did a GREAT job of breaking the tanks/marauders with lings before sending in his ultras. If Maka had been able to hold that choak near the southeastern watch tower for just a little longer, he'd probably have won the game. Also, I liked his build and play in general. Against Roach/Bling, his defensive strategy was pretty good, and if he's able to transition into a couple of Thors a bit earlier (and, you know, stim his marines a bit more effectively), he could've held of NesTea's mutas a lot better. It was that more than anything else that won the game for NesTea. Finally, I think it's lame that Maka didn't even get a chance to play the player that advanced out of his group. I guess I understand why there's a concern about players being motivated in final games and whatnot, but hey, the World Cup deals with it. And if you're worried about teammates giving eachother games, make them play the "team kill" matches first, before the other results are known. I guess there's going to be problems either way you do it, but I think I'd prefer a system where the groups are round-robin instead of one where one player can potentially be eliminated from a pool without having played players that advance. that game was total commentator fail for tastosis. i kept hoping maka could pull back, it was indeed very close at the end, thats why nestea even brought his queens to heal. if he would have lost those ultras he would have lost the game. also, maka wasnt playing far below nesteas level like they kept pointing out - he actually played in a clever way to get half the map and max, and if nestea wouldnt have broken him in the 3rd wave he would have won | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
IMNestea goes 2-0 and advances fine. Maka goes 0-2 and gets eliminated fine. But polt prime and thebest fou split 1-1 and thebest advances simply because his first opponent was nestea. Freaking retarded. At least do extended series on it if this situation happens. In a normal round robin, polt prime plays maka wins and goes 2-1 while thebest plays nestea, loses and is 1-2. This system needs to be fixed now. The other "fair" option is to do a mini swiss. Play game 1 and 2. Winners play and losers play. Then those with 1-1 record play. Much simpler. | ||
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dexternick
Canada2 Posts
On January 03 2011 19:29 darmousseh wrote: This whole system is totally screwed up. IMNestea goes 2-0 and advances fine. Maka goes 0-2 and gets eliminated fine. But polt prime and thebest fou split 1-1 and thebest advances simply because his first opponent was nestea. Freaking retarded. At least do extended series on it if this situation happens. In a normal round robin, polt prime plays maka wins and goes 2-1 while thebest plays nestea, loses and is 1-2. This system needs to be fixed now. The other "fair" option is to do a mini swiss. Play game 1 and 2. Winners play and losers play. Then those with 1-1 record play. Much simpler. They did a deciding match between polt and thebest afterwards, thebest won, thus he moves on | ||
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TheBlur
United States2 Posts
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Elwar
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Gudeldar
United States1200 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On January 03 2011 19:53 dexternick wrote: They did a deciding match between polt and thebest afterwards, thebest won, thus he moves on nevermind then, I didn't see the game listed anywhere. Thats ok then. Edit; There is no tiebreaker match wtf are you talking about? thebest and polt played 2 games against each other and went 1-1. It's retarded. They need to switch the format to something more normal ASAP. | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
Jesus it isn't that hard to understand, stop bumping the thread because you can't comprehend the system which has been explained, in depth why and how, SEVERAL times. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On January 04 2011 02:21 FLuE wrote: It is about the record in the group play head to head isn't a factor when 2 players are 1-1 after 2 matches they have a 1 match playoff. Jesus it isn't that hard to understand, stop bumping the thread because you can't comprehend the system which has been explained, in depth why and how, SEVERAL times. No I understand the system, the how and the why, but I disagree with it because it does not establish the proper ordering. They need to add a single deciding match in this scenario giving the higher seeded player a better chance at winning, but not an unfair advantage. | ||
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Scoop
Finland482 Posts
On January 04 2011 01:43 darmousseh wrote: nevermind then, I didn't see the game listed anywhere. Thats ok then. Edit; There is no tiebreaker match wtf are you talking about? thebest and polt played 2 games against each other and went 1-1. It's retarded. They need to switch the format to something more normal ASAP. You are right. I think Polt should've advanced because he had already beat TheBest but he had to beat him twice which I don't quite understand why... | ||
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
However, the current system is not the best way to do it. The most fair way to do things is to have a round robin (just like the World Cup does), so that everyone faces everyone in their group. The only issue is how to handle tiebreakers (you can't go by goals scored)... they could handle this by simply having the higher seeded player advance. Or they could play additional games (could get messy if it goes 2-1 2-1 2-1 0-3 though), which is a method I don't approve of. I think they should have had TheBest vs Nestea and Polt vs Maka. If TheBest and Polt both win, then TheBest advances due to higher seed. If they both lose, then Maka advances. (Polt is supposed to be at a disadvantage due to being seeded 4th, remember.) | ||
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
On January 03 2011 19:29 darmousseh wrote: At least do extended series on it if this situation happens. In a normal round robin, polt prime plays maka wins and goes 2-1 while thebest plays nestea, loses and is 1-2. I agree, this would have been preferable. The other "fair" option is to do a mini swiss. Play game 1 and 2. Winners play and losers play. Then those with 1-1 record play. Much simpler. Earlier I thought I saw a very good reason that this would be a problem... but evidently I must have been wrong. This actually sounds perfect and I can't imagine why the hell they aren't doing it this way. This is completely fair and has no flaws at all. On January 04 2011 02:48 Scoop wrote: You are right. I think Polt should've advanced because he had already beat TheBest but he had to beat him twice which I don't quite understand why... Polt was 0-1, TheBest was 1-0. Polt then defeats TheBest. There's no reason that going 1-1 should eliminate TheBest but going 1-1 makes Polt advance to Ro16. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46059 Posts
Right after Jinro and Foxer, he was my favorite SC2 Terran | ||
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rezyn8
Australia216 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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