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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
Marines+Tanks > zerg and toss lol Nice series, I always like to see MKP play (missed bunch of matches tho) but at the end it seemed a bit ridiculous how he rolls over toss so easily with either marine/marauder or marine/tank. I believe his losses were mostly when he tried something else (proxy raxes, banshees). | ||
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light3
Australia219 Posts
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:06 dkim wrote: protoss player here.. I am going to have to watch gsl3 finals again to get some inspiration cuz I really did not expect all kill by terrans T.T Lol I'm watching MC vs Rain on delta quadrant right now to see how the fuck he managed to get out of the contain and beat this push. On December 24 2010 22:09 light3 wrote: MC must b so angry right now, his like OMG LET ME KILL THAT WEAK TERRAN I'LL 4-0 HIM MC must be so satisfied right now, like "haha all those protoss noobs have no idea how to PvT...good, will likely get my race buffed so I can own more" | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4559 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:07 HeroHenry wrote: How was the final matchup balance. Tester use pylons to block FD's ramp. Fruitdealer didn't patrol a drone. The matchup is now balanced. -__- | ||
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Mainland
Canada551 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:07 dokugami wrote: Man, there's way too much qq and hate in this thread. Anyway, HongUn must not like Zealots or something. I don't think he even warped in a Zealot after he got the Cybernetics Core. Sure Marines can outrun them with stim but they're tanky, cheap, and they're good for zoning. If they actually close the gap, they do some good dps and that's something to run away from. Better than warping in more fragile yet armored Stalkers so tanks can just unload on them some more. This. I nearly made the same post but didn't press the post button after writing it so I don't get a argue fest. But zealots are very good against tanks, they kills marines very fast thanx to splash. Warping more stalkers when you see a nostim noshield marine+tank push is stupid, disapointed by hongun's play, I like him usualy. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:09 De4ngus wrote: Watch MC's games then watch these ones again, Mr. Bronze. MC in most of the PvTs I've seen does 1base allins or semi-allins that all can be countered with either cloaked Banshees or just the proper unit composition. They all are risky and a gamble. | ||
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Refreshe
United States141 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:08 Essentia wrote: i guess ppl consider just 1 expansion as "greedy" obv every game should just be 1 base all ins Thats starcraft 2 for you, and it's not hard to do. You saw Idra, a Code S-player, lose to some 2.7k diamond player from an all in. It's just too strong. | ||
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light3
Australia219 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:10 Shikyo wrote: MC in most of the PvTs I've seen does 1base allins or semi-allins that all can be countered with either cloaked Banshees or just the proper unit composition. They all are risky and a gamble. ye man, thats why he has like 90% win rate against terrans right? | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4559 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:09 De4ngus wrote: Watch MC's games then watch these ones again, Mr. Bronze. Proactive play vs Defensive play note that Proactive play relies a lot on luck of the build orders. Yes, I'm sold. Your correct every other Protoss bar MC is greedy. | ||
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Essentia
1150 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:11 Refreshe wrote: Thats starcraft 2 for you, and it's not hard to do. You saw Idra, a Code S-player, lose to some 2.7k diamond player from an all in. It's just too strong. ya ur right. the 2 games he lost were to all ins.........its sad but true. expanding is just a bad play in sc2 | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:11 light3 wrote: ye man, thats why he has like 90% win rate against terrans right? Yeah instead of 100. If that was your point? How does 90% winrate show that they aren't 1-base allins? -_- On December 24 2010 22:10 MrCon wrote: This. I nearly made the same post but didn't press the post button after writing it so I don't get a argue fest. But zealots are very good against tanks, they kills marines very fast thanx to splash. Warping more stalkers when you see a nostim noshield marine+tank push is stupid, disapointed by hongun's play, I like him usualy. Zealots wouldn't do anything vs that many Marines, they'd die before they could even get close. Zealots are dead weight after the super early game all the way until they get charge(unless you get some nice forcefields off) | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:12 FataLe wrote: Proactive play vs Defensive play note that Proactive play relies a lot on luck of the build orders. Yes, I'm sold. Your correct every other Protoss bar MC is greedy. You are correct, MC wins because he is lucky  | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4559 Posts
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Essentia
1150 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:14 De4ngus wrote: You are correct, MC wins because he is lucky no but he does do his fair share on all ins as well | ||
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light3
Australia219 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:12 Essentia wrote: ya ur right. the 2 games he lost were to all ins.........its sad but true. expanding is just a bad play in sc2 Expanding is only a bad play if they can kill you with their all-in, so by definition if your opponent does a bad all-in or expands himself, you can safely expand, so your statement is false. | ||
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Essentia
1150 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:15 light3 wrote: Expanding is only a bad play if they can kill you with their all-in, so by definition if your opponent does a bad all-in or expands himself, you can safely expand, so your statement is false. whats zerg suppose to do then? just do 1 base play the whole game? | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4559 Posts
On December 24 2010 22:14 De4ngus wrote: You are correct, MC wins because he is lucky Yes that's exactly how MC won the GSL, lol your a moron. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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