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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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noaki
Germany145 Posts
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NapstaR
Germany128 Posts
Also i dont think that an apology by sjow would help anything, that doesnt make the games being casted anyway... But of course Congratulations to TLO :> I hope they start focusing on the viewers in the rules too. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:07 Malinor wrote: It doesn't seem right that you guys blame Sjow that he does not want lag in his game and doesn't want to listen to some guy explaining to him why he lags. This is a grand final, as a player you would get annoyed as hell. Besides, they asked the caster out before and when he lagged again, TLO said in chat "WTF, he is still in here?". They were probably really pissed by then. If Jinro and TT1 could wait for hours at MLG, so can they. You're forgetting that the whole point of having tournaments with sponsorships and money rewards in the first place is because people want to watch the games. That actually takes priority over players' preferences and problems, because it's what generates the money they're winning right now. Yes it's horrible for a caster to lag during the grand finals, and it's an organizational flaw, and getting an improvised co-caster on was a bad idea. But that's no reason for a PLAYER to decide that streaming isn't going to happen. They may have been pissed off, but that's life. If they felt the game was influenced by the lag, they could discuss with the admin to have it replayed. There are standard ways of dealing with everything. | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:07 Malinor wrote: The right question to ask is how you host a 5000 pounds tournament and don't have a working official stream set up. There was a stream on gamerbase.com this afternoon, but the caster could not show the big battles because then he would start to lag. So he showed some random stuff on the map. This tournament is just terrible organized from a spectators point of view. This! Don't blame the players or the streamers from ragequit. If you have such a big tournament you need a good and official stream and a rule that all games have to be casted. Anyway, gratz to Dario!  I am really happy that he won and even more that he seems to be healthy again! | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
Without viewers there would be no sponsors, withot sponsors there would be no money, hope players who go crazy to the point of not allowing espectators can live with the prizes of craft cup lites. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
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Supertopchecker
Germany18 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4734 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:13 Talin wrote: If Jinro and TT1 could wait for hours at MLG, so can they. You're forgetting that the whole point of having tournaments with sponsorships and money rewards in the first place is because people want to watch the games. That actually takes priority over players' preferences and problems, because it's what generates the money they're winning right now. Yes it's horrible for a caster to lag during the grand finals, and it's an organizational flaw, and getting an improvised co-caster on was a bad idea. But that's no reason for a PLAYER to decide that streaming isn't going to happen. They may have been pissed off, but that's life. If they felt the game was influenced by the lag, they could discuss with the admin to have it replayed. There are standard ways of dealing with everything. I am not forgetting anything. MLG was HORRIBLE. By the time they played the finals finally, I had lost all interest in who would win. I was actually waiting forever and finally fall asleep. In this tourney, It was already after midnight in London and they were playing for 14 hours or so. Furthermore, it was not even an official streamer, for all they knew it was just a random streamer. How do you even know they were aware of the viewing situation for some guys on teamliquid. Also, Sjow didn't decide anything, he just threatened the guy (and you can judge him for that). But the countdown already started when the streamer left, he wasn't forced out, he left voluntarily in the end. | ||
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Lightspeed
130 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:13 Talin wrote: If Jinro and TT1 could wait for hours at MLG, so can they. At midnight? After having played a brutal bracket for 12 hours? Matter of fact, neither the players (the ones that showed up anyway) nor the clutch streamers are to blame but rather the tourney organizers, for not getting a proper official stream running, for not getting the players on site in time, for trying to run a double elim bracket with bo5s in a single day and so on and so forth. Anyway, gz to TLO, 2011 starts well for him, thanks drooL, razamathingy, sheekthief and totalbiscuit for saving this from a viewers perspective and thanks to all the players for putting up some great games. I don't really want to see another TvT for a couple of days though :D | ||
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Malinor
Germany4734 Posts
And congratulations to TLO for a great tournament, and also all the other guys who cashed in. It was very fun to watch. | ||
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strahlemann
Germany15 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:14 Usagi wrote: Thanks RageQuit TV for the great work untill things got fucked up, and Sjow went crazy and decided he wanted no watchers. Without viewers there would be no sponsors, withot sponsors there would be no money, hope players who go crazy to the point of not allowing espectators can live with the prizes of craft cup lites. exactly my opinion, players like sjow and morrow dont understand that i think, they are too young and naive hrhr | ||
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noaki
Germany145 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:17 Malinor wrote: I am not forgetting anything. MLG was HORRIBLE. By the time they played the finals finally, I had lost all interest in who would win. I was actually waiting forever and finally fall asleep. In this tourney, It was already after midnight in London and they were playing for 14 hours or so. Furthermore, it was not even an official streamer, for all they know it was just a random streamer. How do you even know they were aware of the viewing situation for some guys on teamliquid. Also, Sjow didn't decide anything, he just threatened the guy (and you can judge him for that). But the countdown already started when the streamer left, he wasn't forced out, he left voluntarily in the end. yea, but he left to not cause any trouble for drool whose account he was using | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:14 zev318 wrote: sure, if it wasnt like 1am over there in europe, im sure they wouldnt have minded waiting hours for the casters to figure it out........... Im sure those people stay up far far later during tournaments, even more given it is saturday  I have seen Sjow up at 3-4 am in other tournaments, it's the prize for placing high and getting the money, you are not in the playground anymore. | ||
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
 Where are the replays!? GRATZ TLO ♥ | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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NapstaR
Germany128 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:22 Cofo wrote: Are there/will there be VODS anywhere? well no vods, nobody casted the game :D | ||
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bluesoup
Macedonia107 Posts
Or just casters should refuse to cast any of his games until he publicly apologizes... | ||
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