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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 09 2011 00:10 GMT
#781
Wow so happy for TLO right now. I had no idea this tournament was going on!
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
noaki
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany145 Posts
January 09 2011 00:12 GMT
#782
Well it's understandable that they don't want lagging casters, but since skype obviously was the problem the second game should have gone smoothly. At least they could have tried, i mean 5400 people watching six hours of cast to see sjow threatening to never let him obs games again in the future and then rage quitting and going off (spoilering the result) is a pretty sad ending for such a tour.
NapstaR
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany128 Posts
January 09 2011 00:12 GMT
#783
Well in my opinion, there should be a rule that says that a caster must be in such a final game - the fans cheer so much for it and now we do not even have replays, anyone could cast.

Also i dont think that an apology by sjow would help anything, that doesnt make the games being casted anyway...

But of course Congratulations to TLO :>

I hope they start focusing on the viewers in the rules too.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 09 2011 00:13 GMT
#784
On January 09 2011 09:07 Malinor wrote:
It doesn't seem right that you guys blame Sjow that he does not want lag in his game and doesn't want to listen to some guy explaining to him why he lags. This is a grand final, as a player you would get annoyed as hell. Besides, they asked the caster out before and when he lagged again, TLO said in chat "WTF, he is still in here?". They were probably really pissed by then.


If Jinro and TT1 could wait for hours at MLG, so can they.

You're forgetting that the whole point of having tournaments with sponsorships and money rewards in the first place is because people want to watch the games. That actually takes priority over players' preferences and problems, because it's what generates the money they're winning right now.

Yes it's horrible for a caster to lag during the grand finals, and it's an organizational flaw, and getting an improvised co-caster on was a bad idea. But that's no reason for a PLAYER to decide that streaming isn't going to happen.

They may have been pissed off, but that's life. If they felt the game was influenced by the lag, they could discuss with the admin to have it replayed. There are standard ways of dealing with everything.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 00:15:14
January 09 2011 00:13 GMT
#785
On January 09 2011 09:07 Malinor wrote:

The right question to ask is how you host a 5000 pounds tournament and don't have a working official stream set up. There was a stream on gamerbase.com this afternoon, but the caster could not show the big battles because then he would start to lag. So he showed some random stuff on the map. This tournament is just terrible organized from a spectators point of view.

This!

Don't blame the players or the streamers from ragequit. If you have such a big tournament you need a good and official stream and a rule that all games have to be casted.

Anyway, gratz to Dario! I am really happy that he won and even more that he seems to be healthy again!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
January 09 2011 00:14 GMT
#786
Thanks RageQuit TV for the great work untill things got fucked up, and Sjow went crazy and decided he wanted no watchers.
Without viewers there would be no sponsors, withot sponsors there would be no money, hope players who go crazy to the point of not allowing espectators can live with the prizes of craft cup lites.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
January 09 2011 00:14 GMT
#787
sure, if it wasnt like 1am over there in europe, im sure they wouldnt have minded waiting hours for the casters to figure it out...........
Supertopchecker
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany18 Posts
January 09 2011 00:16 GMT
#788
aargh replays pleeease!
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 00:21:01
January 09 2011 00:17 GMT
#789
On January 09 2011 09:13 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 09:07 Malinor wrote:
It doesn't seem right that you guys blame Sjow that he does not want lag in his game and doesn't want to listen to some guy explaining to him why he lags. This is a grand final, as a player you would get annoyed as hell. Besides, they asked the caster out before and when he lagged again, TLO said in chat "WTF, he is still in here?". They were probably really pissed by then.


If Jinro and TT1 could wait for hours at MLG, so can they.

You're forgetting that the whole point of having tournaments with sponsorships and money rewards in the first place is because people want to watch the games. That actually takes priority over players' preferences and problems, because it's what generates the money they're winning right now.

Yes it's horrible for a caster to lag during the grand finals, and it's an organizational flaw, and getting an improvised co-caster on was a bad idea. But that's no reason for a PLAYER to decide that streaming isn't going to happen.

They may have been pissed off, but that's life. If they felt the game was influenced by the lag, they could discuss with the admin to have it replayed. There are standard ways of dealing with everything.


I am not forgetting anything. MLG was HORRIBLE. By the time they played the finals finally, I had lost all interest in who would win. I was actually waiting forever and finally fall asleep.

In this tourney, It was already after midnight in London and they were playing for 14 hours or so. Furthermore, it was not even an official streamer, for all they knew it was just a random streamer. How do you even know they were aware of the viewing situation for some guys on teamliquid.
Also, Sjow didn't decide anything, he just threatened the guy (and you can judge him for that). But the countdown already started when the streamer left, he wasn't forced out, he left voluntarily in the end.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Lightspeed
Profile Joined August 2010
130 Posts
January 09 2011 00:19 GMT
#790
On January 09 2011 09:13 Talin wrote:
If Jinro and TT1 could wait for hours at MLG, so can they.


At midnight? After having played a brutal bracket for 12 hours? Matter of fact, neither the players (the ones that showed up anyway) nor the clutch streamers are to blame but rather the tourney organizers, for not getting a proper official stream running, for not getting the players on site in time, for trying to run a double elim bracket with bo5s in a single day and so on and so forth.

Anyway, gz to TLO, 2011 starts well for him, thanks drooL, razamathingy, sheekthief and totalbiscuit for saving this from a viewers perspective and thanks to all the players for putting up some great games. I don't really want to see another TvT for a couple of days though :D
We have one cup here, but really only two girls
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
January 09 2011 00:20 GMT
#791
Yeah I forgot: Thanks very much to Ragequit.tv for trying really hard all day and bringing us so many games. That is really much appreciated.
And congratulations to TLO for a great tournament, and also all the other guys who cashed in. It was very fun to watch.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
strahlemann
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 00:22:30
January 09 2011 00:20 GMT
#792
On January 09 2011 09:14 Usagi wrote:
Thanks RageQuit TV for the great work untill things got fucked up, and Sjow went crazy and decided he wanted no watchers.
Without viewers there would be no sponsors, withot sponsors there would be no money, hope players who go crazy to the point of not allowing espectators can live with the prizes of craft cup lites.


exactly my opinion, players like sjow and morrow dont understand that i think, they are too young and naive hrhr
noaki
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 00:21:56
January 09 2011 00:20 GMT
#793
On January 09 2011 09:17 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 09:13 Talin wrote:
On January 09 2011 09:07 Malinor wrote:
It doesn't seem right that you guys blame Sjow that he does not want lag in his game and doesn't want to listen to some guy explaining to him why he lags. This is a grand final, as a player you would get annoyed as hell. Besides, they asked the caster out before and when he lagged again, TLO said in chat "WTF, he is still in here?". They were probably really pissed by then.


If Jinro and TT1 could wait for hours at MLG, so can they.

You're forgetting that the whole point of having tournaments with sponsorships and money rewards in the first place is because people want to watch the games. That actually takes priority over players' preferences and problems, because it's what generates the money they're winning right now.

Yes it's horrible for a caster to lag during the grand finals, and it's an organizational flaw, and getting an improvised co-caster on was a bad idea. But that's no reason for a PLAYER to decide that streaming isn't going to happen.

They may have been pissed off, but that's life. If they felt the game was influenced by the lag, they could discuss with the admin to have it replayed. There are standard ways of dealing with everything.


I am not forgetting anything. MLG was HORRIBLE. By the time they played the finals finally, I had lost all interest in who would win. I was actually waiting forever and finally fall asleep.

In this tourney, It was already after midnight in London and they were playing for 14 hours or so. Furthermore, it was not even an official streamer, for all they know it was just a random streamer. How do you even know they were aware of the viewing situation for some guys on teamliquid.
Also, Sjow didn't decide anything, he just threatened the guy (and you can judge him for that). But the countdown already started when the streamer left, he wasn't forced out, he left voluntarily in the end.


yea, but he left to not cause any trouble for drool whose account he was using
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
January 09 2011 00:21 GMT
#794
this was simultaneously one of the worst run tournaments ive seen, and one that Iv wanted to see the most. Bad combination. I mean TLO in the finals and I miss it??? WTF!!
Every sunday a nun lays from my gunplay
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
January 09 2011 00:21 GMT
#795
On January 09 2011 09:14 zev318 wrote:
sure, if it wasnt like 1am over there in europe, im sure they wouldnt have minded waiting hours for the casters to figure it out...........


Im sure those people stay up far far later during tournaments, even more given it is saturday
I have seen Sjow up at 3-4 am in other tournaments, it's the prize for placing high and getting the money, you are not in the playground anymore.
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
January 09 2011 00:22 GMT
#796
Are there/will there be VODS anywhere?
+ Show Spoiler +
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 09 2011 00:22 GMT
#797
TLO goes 4 Fac hellion and nobody can watch it

Where are the replays!? GRATZ TLO ♥
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 09 2011 00:22 GMT
#798
Congrats TLO! First win post-beta!!!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
NapstaR
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany128 Posts
January 09 2011 00:23 GMT
#799
On January 09 2011 09:22 Cofo wrote:
Are there/will there be VODS anywhere?



well no vods, nobody casted the game :D
bluesoup
Profile Joined March 2009
Macedonia107 Posts
January 09 2011 00:24 GMT
#800
TL audience should return the "favor" to Sjow next time he is playing casted game and drop the viewer count to 0.

Or just casters should refuse to cast any of his games until he publicly apologizes...
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