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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
You're only within your rights to forfeit if you don't like how things are going. It's like showing up at any sort of live event and demanding that all the invited journalists and spectators leave because you don't like big crowds. Completely unacceptable in any shape or form. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:34 Veasel wrote: WTF ARE YOU SAYING? That lagg ruined their whole game fucktard. DId u even watch what happend? Shut the FUCK up.. all this blame-throwing from noobs shouldt be acceptable -.- Serisly.. Thank you for insulting me, and yes, I was watching the tournament, thanks again. | ||
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noaki
Germany145 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:27 Malinor wrote: And he did the right thing. Also the players did the right thing, they just wanted the games to go smoothly after a 14h day. Again, there was just an admin who didn't do anything when he should have said something, and a very bad organized tournament from a spectators point of view. And to everyone, maybe put yourself in Sjow's shoes for once. He was up 2-0 in WB-final against TLO, then loses 2-3. Later he is containting TLO in game1 in the grand final and then 6 Helions tear apart millions of scvs and marines in your base. And then some guy in your game lags several times during the game. You really expect him to stay calm there (besides, TLO was as pissed as Sjow if you followed the chat)? well the lag was probably fixed for game 2. and yeah in game one tlo asked to leave (please!) while sjow told him that he will never let him obs a game again and the game just started without even taking the time to let the caster explain. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:34 Veasel wrote: WTF ARE YOU SAYING? That lagg ruined their whole game fucktard. DId u even watch what happend? Shut the FUCK up.. all this blame-throwing from noobs shouldt be acceptable -.- Serisly.. I think you should settle down. I'm sure the mods don't appreciate the language you are using. It would be nice if you showed a little bit more class and civility. | ||
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dmans
Sweden358 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38256 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:35 Talin wrote:It's like showing up at any sort of live event and demanding that all the invited journalists and spectators leave because you don't like big crowds. Completely unacceptable in any shape or form. It's more like asking a group of ugly streakers to get off the pitch so you can carry on playing =p | ||
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:39 Asha` wrote: It's more like asking a group of ugly streakers to get off the pitch so you can carry on playing =p Only bad thing is the streakers were the only ones with cameras to broadcast it xD | ||
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:34 Veasel wrote: WTF ARE YOU SAYING? That lagg ruined their whole game fucktard. DId u even watch what happend? Shut the FUCK up.. all this blame-throwing from noobs shouldt be acceptable -.- Serisly.. it doesn't matter how hard it lagged in the game before. The sponsors put in 5000 pounds, you think they put in that money so that some player with a bad mood could stop the broadcasting of the finals? stuff like that hurts esports, because it will turn off potential sponsors. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:39 Asha` wrote: It's more like asking a group of ugly streakers to get off the pitch so you can carry on playing =p ragequit tv had official approval from the tournament organizers to cast the games, so your streaker analogy is without merit. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:39 Asha` wrote: It's more like asking a group of ugly streakers to get off the pitch so you can carry on playing =p Well you can't do even that as a player. You're expected to stand still and wait for the authorities / organizers to clean up the mess on the pitch. =P (besides, asking =/= demanding) | ||
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Hatsu
United Kingdom474 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:34 TotalBiscuit wrote: Sjow was upset about lag. This is understandable, his reaction after a long day of intense playing, also understandable. Not really his call to make to remove the caster, that would be an admin decision and up to the organisers, but you can't blame him for making that known. To me it's not what Sjow asked for, that is legitimate. It is how he did it. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:43 Hatsu wrote: To me it's not what Sjow asked for, that is legitimate. It is how he did it. This. Sjow showed a lack of tact and grace. Also, it didn't do him any favors when 5k+ people blame him for the lack of stream in the finals. The IRC chat was going crazy calling for Sjow's head. | ||
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eu.xen
Germany352 Posts
Yes, they lagged big time first game and they left! Not leaving there would have been wrong, but they did. Then, they don't get a CHANCE to fix the issue, have 5 minutes to ask an admin or find another EU caster to invite. If casters say after 3 minutes they fixed the issue and lag again, no one is gonna say anything if it's just not possible to cast. But casters got raged at and threatend and left, cause they didn't want to cause a scene. This was unacceptable of Sjow, to kill all communication there and shows he has zero interest in pleasing any of the thousands of fans watching. He might be a good player, but still has so much to learn... | ||
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billz
United Kingdom63 Posts
Now that I've defended the wonderful british transport system I'm going to continue to sit in this rancid smelling train surrounded by people singing such classics as all by my self and why are we waiting we are suffocating and try and stay awake until my stop, may post the odd vid from event tomorrow. | ||
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eGo.SiGns
Germany48 Posts
So, what Sjow did was acutally force the official cast out of the game and therefore destroying any chance of the users seeing the match. I'm not arguing if its understandable that he didnt like the lag or something. It probably is. But first of all, its not his decision if a caster is no longer allowed to JOIN the match. Its common procedure that a player asks a lagging caster to leave in the game, but have you ever seen that happening to the official cast before a game? And even if you say its justified to do so - which from my point of view it is not - then one could have hoped for a bit more insight from sjow. Obvioulsy all companies planning to host a sc2-tourny for advertisement will keep this failure in mind  So he really hurt the UK-Sc2-Scene in my opinion.Thats just sad, and for me thats enough reason to never tune into his stream or care about his games in tourneys. Sure , now some people will flame and say "who cares", but i'm just stating my opinion, and i dont think i'm so alone with that. greetz | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
i hope everything went well, from what i read here there were some issues but nothing too severe. but overall i'm glad that most of you were content with ragequit.tv's effort to jump in for the cast on very short notice. we're always glad to deliver  other than that: sorry sjow (in case you read this) that things didnt go for you as desired. lagging casters of course is unexcusable but again i didn't really know what happened. i just want to apologize for any inconvenience. i wasn't really involved but my account was :D so... just saying sorry. + Show Spoiler + and MASSIVE congrats to liquid and dario. the intense ladder sessions and the korea experience finally paid off for you dear sir, one of the best players in the world (right now, in my opinion). still entertaining to watch your games, just like in the beta. please never change since you and your play are one of a kind. /fanboy | ||
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dmans
Sweden358 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:51 Donttazemebro wrote: All the people defending Sjow here are way off. Yes, they lagged big time first game and they left! Not leaving there would have been wrong, but they did. Then, they don't get a CHANCE to fix the issue, have 5 minutes to ask an admin or find another EU caster to invite. If casters say after 3 minutes they fixed the issue and lag again, no one is gonna say anything if it's just not possible to cast. But casters got raged at and threatend and left, cause they didn't want to cause a scene. This was unacceptable of Sjow, to kill all communication there and shows he has zero interest in pleasing any of the thousands of fans watching. He might be a good player, but still has so much to learn... Come on, TLO also blamed caster because of lag in the chat. Sjow was the first one to say it in chat only. | ||
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eGo.SiGns
Germany48 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:54 dmans wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 09 2011 09:51 Donttazemebro wrote: All the people defending Sjow here are way off. Yes, they lagged big time first game and they left! Not leaving there would have been wrong, but they did. Then, they don't get a CHANCE to fix the issue, have 5 minutes to ask an admin or find another EU caster to invite. If casters say after 3 minutes they fixed the issue and lag again, no one is gonna say anything if it's just not possible to cast. But casters got raged at and threatend and left, cause they didn't want to cause a scene. This was unacceptable of Sjow, to kill all communication there and shows he has zero interest in pleasing any of the thousands of fans watching. He might be a good player, but still has so much to learn... Come on, TLO also blamed caster because of lag in the chat. Sjow was the first one to say it in chat only. You cant really compare TLO asking a lagging caster to leave the current game and Sjow threatening said caster to never let him cast his games again, if he should not leave the lobby. Greetz | ||
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