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Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1601
Guys, remember, it's only cheese if it beats a zerg.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 11:39:33
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1602
Proxy 2 stargates

FD scouts main and sees no tech
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1603
WOW. double stargate!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Gr4ndmasterSexy
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany27 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1604
the problem is you people have no idea of this matchup... it just changes nothing if you dont go hatch first.
there is just not a real counter to this idiotic terran all-ins.

it really changes nothing if you get your hatch later... only that you have less larva for lings.....
and now dont try to tell the zergs to play one-base..
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1605
proxt gate, but FD is gonna see it
Terran
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1606
Cheese transition into double cheese, HongUn,... very interesting.
Consolidate
Profile Joined February 2010
United States829 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1607
uh oh
Creature posessed the the spirit of inquiry and bloodlust - Adventure Time
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1608
On December 06 2010 20:38 banned_again2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 20:33 JunkkaGom wrote:
I feel terrible not because of rain but because of an incident that happened between me and artosis. I deserve to be punched by artosis.


Linked with this ?

Show nested quote +

I'm a terrible human being. Sorry

Show nested quote +

I was supposed to meet tastosis at5:30 for movie. But I was meeting a girl and will be at least an hour late.

Show nested quote +
It's one of those things I despise the most when someone else does it to me

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I promised artosis to go to zoo with him next weekend. Thanks for giving me another chance.


http://twitter.com/junkka83


haha to the zoo ^^ awesome
NesTea <3
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1609
On December 06 2010 20:35 sleepingdog wrote:
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On December 06 2010 20:33 JunkkaGom wrote:
I feel terrible not because of rain but because of an incident that happened between me and artosis. I deserve to be punched by artosis.


Tell us more, it will disappear among the zerg-QQ very quickly anyways


He sat on his banana and bruised it.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
December 06 2010 11:39 GMT
#1610
Cheese Moar.
Double stargates Proxied

Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1611
if fruitdealer wins this, HE'S THE BOSS!!
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1612
Overlord on the way to scout the stargates?
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1613
Wow hongun goes really heavy on the cheese here....
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1614
Void rays almost done, hydra den almost done. Can't see how many queens there are
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1615
IdrA knew he was gonna cheese :/
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1616
excellent scouting
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1617
On December 06 2010 20:36 Firereaver wrote:
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On December 06 2010 20:31 LoLAdriankat wrote:
On December 06 2010 20:30 Firereaver wrote:
On December 06 2010 20:27 LoLAdriankat wrote:
On December 06 2010 19:36 Liquid`Ret wrote:
people who keep talking about 'hatch first' really don't have a clue.. 2 rax constant marines dominates pool first so bad because there's only so few larve off 1 hatch untill after the first queen inject...the marines can just push you back non stop till that first inject finishes and you are in danger of being bunker blocked

not to mention you have to blindly make ~20 lings in that case so if terran just stops after 5 mariens and puts down a CC you are economically fucked

nestea fucked up his drone/ling control pretty bad there but hatch first is the only choice really...hency why steppes is auto loss vs terran, im sure nestea expected to lose set 2

Quoting for all those scrub Terrans who think they're good.

So what? Why can't it be an in-base hatch?!

Because you'll get walled in and zerglings won't have the surface area to take out the bunkers? At the same time Terran will expand.

Nah! Wrong imo. Remember earlier in the metagame when super-early pylon blocks were popular? All zerg wud have to do was spread creep and walk the spinecrawler to take out a blocking bunker! And in base hatch will provide the necessary ling support.
Also with in-base hatch, if the Terran expands behind bunkers, you can stack the drones to be maynarded at your main and once the cheese is dealt with I'm sure you cannot come behind the Terran esp. after a fail cheese-rush!

Hahaa!! Guess Fruit took my advice!!!
+ Show Spoiler +
j/k
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 11:41:12
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1618
On December 06 2010 20:33 Mainland wrote:
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On December 06 2010 20:29 Indel wrote:
Every single fucking retard that says you should go pool first is a worthless imbecile who just doesn't understand that you can't never, ever keep up with terran production with a single hatch.


I've already posted this exact comment in this thread. Larva production with pool first with queen is the same as hatch first. Here is the source:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117908

Therefore, you can't say hatch-first is better for larva production.

Going hatch first requires the Zerg to take 6-10+ drones off mining to defend against rushes.

Therefore, you can't say hatch-first is better economically.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/oimg?key=0AkbMC3lhYNFjdFVqM1dZaENSaThwakRmTW9CYi1EZFE&oid=4&v=1270298450945

Do you even read the thread you just quoted? Hatch first gives you more larvae during the time when it matters most. Hatch first also lets you gets creep up much faster = allows an early spine AND additional queens.
timbo
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom70 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1619
Idra streaming after this series!

http://twitter.com/idrajit
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
December 06 2010 11:40 GMT
#1620
it takes amazing map sense + scouting against cheese. thats whats so frustrating about cheesy play D:
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