Hatch first is like 10x better vs delayed all-in builds (aka. BitByBit style). Hatch first is only slightly weaker to the bunker hopping that we saw in game 5.

dartoo

India2889 Posts

December 06 2010 11:26 GMT

#1322

This was kinda disappointing.

Was really rooting for nestea.
Maybe 14 hatch is a no-no on these maps, with close distances. Wonder how a baneling bust would've worked out...

ShyRamen

United States322 Posts

December 06 2010 11:26 GMT

#1323

On December 06 2010 20:26 ch33psh33p wrote:
Wait... NesTea lost 3 times to the same shit, and didn't adapt the second or third time WHATSOEVER?

And you're calling Rain the shitty player? Sure he was cheesing/all-in/whatever you want to call it, but NesTea, as a champion, should've anticpated it on Game 5 EASILY, went pool first, and outmacroed rain from there.

so true

massivez

Belgium653 Posts

December 06 2010 11:26 GMT

#1324

No worries guys, fruitdealer(the true zerg hero) got this!

bokeevboke

Singapore1674 Posts

December 06 2010 11:26 GMT

#1325

I started hating this guy after he took out Genius by some weird all-in.

Warrior Madness

Canada3791 Posts

December 06 2010 11:26 GMT

#1326

On December 06 2010 20:24 Teogamer wrote:
Why did he choose to go 14hatch on the 5th set after getting marine rushed almost every game?

Because it's the best response to a 2 rax? Extra larva early on + creep for a spine. Zergbong just didn't micro as well as he could've.

shynee

Canada180 Posts

December 06 2010 11:26 GMT

#1327

On December 06 2010 20:25 Frazzlehoon wrote:
Stop blaming matchups people. T > Z midgame depending on how the games play out. Why aren't T slow pushing more with tanks?

Because mutas rape your mineral lines if you move out in the mid game. Need to push earlier.

Snowbear

Korea (South)1925 Posts

December 06 2010 11:26 GMT

#1328

I just hope that blizzard doesn't nerf the marine..

vrok

Sweden2541 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1329

Nice! The shittier player won. Blizzard you better fucking watch this shit.

MK is like a million times better than this fool...

Romple

United States57 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1330

If you don't hatch, what do you do? Sit on 400 minerals at all times because you have no larva?

Breach_hu

Hungary2431 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1331

EXCUSE.TXT used for allins! lol rain you are better than that:D

johanngrunt

Hong Kong1555 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1332

Stop dissing rain, he did the correct thing to counter Nestea's strategy, and that paid off.

Too bad those were rushes, if every game was 40 minutes long I don't think there would be so much backlash, but definitely he executed it well (not perfectly).

A lot of money on the line.

Lann555

Netherlands5173 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1333

I wonder how long people will keep whining that Zerg shouldn't go hatch-first even though pros like Ret and Idra agree that it's the better opening even vs double rax play.

Reading, a usefull skill toi have?

Qikz

United Kingdom12043 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1334

All Nestea had to do was kill that one SCV. He had a queen next to it attacking and retreated one hit too early. ._.

KingRajesh

United States927 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1335

POOPFEAST420! :D

lol

MrCon

France29748 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1336

The thing is, a player like fruitdealer would have repelled those allin (or at least one of them), nestea has bad micro and bad pressure management (bad target choice, average micro at best) and Rain really abused that. And it's +6k$ for him ) Nestea is rich enough atm.

MiniTsunami

United States274 Posts

December 06 2010 11:27 GMT

#1337

LoL PoopFeast420 again?! You crazy mofo!