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On December 01 2010 20:47 redviper wrote:
Can't believe that Jinro went through and Idra didn't. Clearly shows the problems with ZvT these days when a player like jinro can beat Moon and Idra loses to MVP.
Because MVP is a sub-1k Diamond player amirite? Get over it, both of them played well, Idra decided to drone up instead of make extra units for defence/harassment and payed for it, what did you want MVP to do? Sit there and let him macro? ofcourse not!
Idra got S class already and I'm sure he will come back stronger with even more refined strategies.
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On December 01 2010 20:48 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 20:47 redviper wrote:
Can't believe that Jinro went through and Idra didn't. Clearly shows the problems with ZvT these days when a player like jinro can beat Moon and Idra loses to MVP. There's something called skill levels.
Exactly. Especially if we're talking about Moon and Jinro.
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IdrA lost right when artosis said 14 drones to 19 scvs but he forgot to mention the one mule... it was gg then
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On December 01 2010 20:50 Shikyo wrote:
GG, close spawns. But yeah I don't understand why Idra didn't make more units, he had like no chance of surviving vs even half the amount of units MVP had.
because he was already behind on drones from the 2rax pressure. he was trying to catch up on economy.
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game wouldve been different if he had banelings earlier or if they werent sniped. so seriously... its not just the close positions
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go into work everyday...get trolled by the internet. artosis life.
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On December 01 2010 20:49 Mainland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 20:46 On_Slaught wrote:
Complete fucking joke that this comes down to a bad spawn. Zerg can't get a fucking 3rd like this and the rush distance is like 20feet.
Like ive said before, close spawn meta is as broken as close spawn shakuras would be. They need to make it so you can only spawn in the other 2 spots imo.
RAGEEEE. The spawns contributed to the loss, but it's not unbeatable. MVP hit a good timing window just after Idra droned a little too much.
well its easy to hit such a timing on close position isnt it ?.
The thing is Idra had to drone or he wouldve lost to mvps superior eco. If he made units Mvp wouldnt have attacked but waited :D.
Yeah thats why such short distances are total garbage for Zerg you cant drone up safe at all !.
Oh well anyways I knew Mvp would win but I expected more of a macro/lategame.
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It's pretty crazy. IdrA was very active about scouting but once he saw it he had about 5 seconds to react which is pretty wtf. Probs for MVP for playing such a sharp game.
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You are supposed to make more units on close spawns, im very sad right now.
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On December 01 2010 20:48 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Too greedy. Too many Drones, no units at all D:
I am sure he had less drones than terran scvs lol
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i am almost sure idra would have won if the position was cross. MVP actually went 2 rax without even scouting..........
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shame that idra got close posis on meta :[ On the other hand Im sooo happy for jinro! GJ man! Im proud of you! Bought premium just for you jinro 
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LOL from release the gracken
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if idra had done the same build that he did on steppes of war he might have been able to take it
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Jinro is going to rape the shit out of IMMvP in the Ro8
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On December 01 2010 20:50 Shikyo wrote:
GG, close spawns. But yeah I don't understand why Idra didn't make more units, he had like no chance of surviving vs even half the amount of units MVP had.
because MVP never has half the units he had. He's either gonna have as much as he did and roll idra or he gonna delay his attack.
Close positions are simply unwinnable vs competent terran because as a zerg you can never be ahead- if terran scans you and sees that u made units he simply does nothing and is automatically ahead. If you made drones he goes out and kills you.
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EPT
