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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
November 29 2010 10:31 GMT
#481
On November 29 2010 19:30 mandigal wrote:
That Terran will get demolished if he ever meets a player who plays solid defense against 1 base all ins.

If only sSKS (Tester) qualified. He'd show us all how to defend 1base cheese/allins in the worst possible scenarios.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
beetoo
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden92 Posts
November 29 2010 10:31 GMT
#482
This is such a common strategy that the higher profile zergs should have some kind of defenses against it.
Swirlyball!
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 10:33:04
November 29 2010 10:31 GMT
#483
On November 29 2010 19:30 EatCrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 19:29 Qikz wrote:
People complain about SCV all ins, but can't other races do it too?


Other races don't have mules

they have more workers
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
November 29 2010 10:31 GMT
#484
On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote:
What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful


nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.


ur kidding I guess, pulling drones as zerg is not the same thing as pulling scvs as terran, mules anyone?
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
November 29 2010 10:31 GMT
#485
Terran lost 2 banshees for nothing yet, npz i can all in twice and win. im so pissed...
When in doubt, just drone up.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 29 2010 10:31 GMT
#486
Where are your... Banelings banelings banelings ohhh??
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
November 29 2010 10:31 GMT
#487
On November 29 2010 19:30 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
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On November 29 2010 19:28 Scruff wrote:
HAHAHAHA You can hear that Artosis is pissed


ofc he is. in the end hes just like us, a player that wants to watch great games just that he is commentating it as a job.

and games like that are disgusting to see as a player and the worst thing that can happen when your commentating since there is just nothing at all exciting about it.

'Exciting' is pretty subjective.
I thought those games, though it was quite bad play from the zerg at times, were much more interesting than the TvT mirror matchups we've seen so far in the GSL.

Zerg should have made at least a baneling nest.
oyoyo
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#488
no reason to complain

baneling nest would have won him the game, muta roach..... honestly
Ingruz
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy380 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#489
On November 29 2010 19:30 EatCrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 19:29 Qikz wrote:
People complain about SCV all ins, but can't other races do it too?


Other races don't have mules


this, and plus while zerg can re-drone pretty fast (if the have enough mineral indeed) toss can just re-make one of them at time :/
My life for Aiur!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#490
On November 29 2010 19:29 Qikz wrote:
People complain about SCV all ins, but can't other races do it too? Zerg just didn't defend well enough. He'd of won if he'd defended properly.


I wish people would stop calling it an all in (it isn't), but instead a rush or just SCV attack.

However, at the same time people need to stop saying "the other races" can do it too because the fact of the matter is for a multitude of reasons it is MUCH MUCH more effective for terrans to pull workers than for either other race.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#491
On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote:
What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful


nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.


No, it's not all-in as Terran as long as you do damage. If you're trading your workers for their workers, you will ALWAYS win due to Mules.

Think about it.

Which is better:
2 Mules and 40 SCVs vs 40 probes OR 2 Mules and 5 SCVs vs 5 probes

That's why people complain. Terran can "all-in" with their workers and not actually "all-in".
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#492
Fruitdealer is going to deal some delicious fruit to bitbybit in the ro16
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#493
Definitely the worst series ever haha.

At least it was shortish
Jaedong :3
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 10:32:56
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#494
doublepost
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#495
On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote:
What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful


nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.


Actually there is. Zerg and protoss have short range and melee units already in their unit composition, meaning the workers would be useless. Terran having ranged fighting units means the workers actually do something instead of getting in the way of lings/zealots like they would with the other races. Having mules to fall back on afterward matters a lot as well.

The only time I've seen zerg go for drones too is with a 6 pool.
日本語が分かりますか
actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 10:33:13
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#496
I know one person mentioned it but many are saying " WELL CANT ALL RACES PULL WORKERS TO ALL - IN?" The answer is no, why? because of the mule. Pure and simple. Its much much harder for the other two races to recover from losing that many workers, and terran can still produce units with mules very easily.

Not to mention terran doesn't have a melee unit anymore. Scvs are an amazing buffer.
It rained today inside my head...
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#497
On November 29 2010 19:31 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 19:30 mandigal wrote:
That Terran will get demolished if he ever meets a player who plays solid defense against 1 base all ins.

If only sSKS (Tester) qualified. He'd show us all how to defend 1base cheese/allins in the worst possible scenarios.


I miss tester
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#498
On November 29 2010 19:31 Punkstar wrote:
Terran lost 2 banshees for nothing yet, npz i can all in twice and win. im so pissed...


Zerg didn't get Banelings which is almost a bigger mistake then loosing 2 banshees
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#499
I don't think Bitbybit will be able to marine/scv rush his way to victory anymore, being that his next opponent will either be fruitdealer or another terran.

Wished to see newdawn go further, damn marine/scv all-ins with mules to help revive boost economy D:
ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
November 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#500
I'd recommend them, after people watch those replays they'll appreciate how silly these TvZ games are becoming...a waste of their time and a waste of ours ):
Pew pew!
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