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On November 29 2010 19:30 mandigal wrote: That Terran will get demolished if he ever meets a player who plays solid defense against 1 base all ins. If only sSKS (Tester) qualified. He'd show us all how to defend 1base cheese/allins in the worst possible scenarios.
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This is such a common strategy that the higher profile zergs should have some kind of defenses against it.
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On November 29 2010 19:30 EatCrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:29 Qikz wrote: People complain about SCV all ins, but can't other races do it too? Other races don't have mules they have more workers
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On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.
ur kidding I guess, pulling drones as zerg is not the same thing as pulling scvs as terran, mules anyone?
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Terran lost 2 banshees for nothing yet, npz i can all in twice and win. im so pissed...
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Where are your... Banelings banelings banelings ohhh??
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On November 29 2010 19:30 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:28 Scruff wrote: HAHAHAHA You can hear that Artosis is pissed ofc he is. in the end hes just like us, a player that wants to watch great games just that he is commentating it as a job. and games like that are disgusting to see as a player and the worst thing that can happen when your commentating since there is just nothing at all exciting about it. 'Exciting' is pretty subjective. I thought those games, though it was quite bad play from the zerg at times, were much more interesting than the TvT mirror matchups we've seen so far in the GSL.
Zerg should have made at least a baneling nest.
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no reason to complain
baneling nest would have won him the game, muta roach..... honestly
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On November 29 2010 19:30 EatCrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:29 Qikz wrote: People complain about SCV all ins, but can't other races do it too? Other races don't have mules
this, and plus while zerg can re-drone pretty fast (if the have enough mineral indeed) toss can just re-make one of them at time :/
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On November 29 2010 19:29 Qikz wrote: People complain about SCV all ins, but can't other races do it too? Zerg just didn't defend well enough. He'd of won if he'd defended properly.
I wish people would stop calling it an all in (it isn't), but instead a rush or just SCV attack.
However, at the same time people need to stop saying "the other races" can do it too because the fact of the matter is for a multitude of reasons it is MUCH MUCH more effective for terrans to pull workers than for either other race.
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On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.
No, it's not all-in as Terran as long as you do damage. If you're trading your workers for their workers, you will ALWAYS win due to Mules.
Think about it.
Which is better: 2 Mules and 40 SCVs vs 40 probes OR 2 Mules and 5 SCVs vs 5 probes
That's why people complain. Terran can "all-in" with their workers and not actually "all-in".
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Fruitdealer is going to deal some delicious fruit to bitbybit in the ro16
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Definitely the worst series ever haha.
At least it was shortish
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On November 29 2010 19:29 necmon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:26 Scruff wrote: What a joke pulling SCV is way too powerful nobody hinders you doing that as zerg or protoss as well. You are basically destroying your own economy with it. It's an all-in move, nothing else.
Actually there is. Zerg and protoss have short range and melee units already in their unit composition, meaning the workers would be useless. Terran having ranged fighting units means the workers actually do something instead of getting in the way of lings/zealots like they would with the other races. Having mules to fall back on afterward matters a lot as well.
The only time I've seen zerg go for drones too is with a 6 pool.
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I know one person mentioned it but many are saying " WELL CANT ALL RACES PULL WORKERS TO ALL - IN?" The answer is no, why? because of the mule. Pure and simple. Its much much harder for the other two races to recover from losing that many workers, and terran can still produce units with mules very easily.
Not to mention terran doesn't have a melee unit anymore. Scvs are an amazing buffer.
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On November 29 2010 19:31 shannn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 19:30 mandigal wrote: That Terran will get demolished if he ever meets a player who plays solid defense against 1 base all ins. If only sSKS (Tester) qualified. He'd show us all how to defend 1base cheese/allins in the worst possible scenarios.
I miss tester
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On November 29 2010 19:31 Punkstar wrote: Terran lost 2 banshees for nothing yet, npz i can all in twice and win. im so pissed...
Zerg didn't get Banelings which is almost a bigger mistake then loosing 2 banshees
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I don't think Bitbybit will be able to marine/scv rush his way to victory anymore, being that his next opponent will either be fruitdealer or another terran.
Wished to see newdawn go further, damn marine/scv all-ins with mules to help revive boost economy D:
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I'd recommend them, after people watch those replays they'll appreciate how silly these TvZ games are becoming...a waste of their time and a waste of ours ):
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